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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Seriously guys...guys seriously!!!
Seriously guys...guys seriously!!!
Games MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE ENDGAME!!
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
I have no intentions to do so, but killing him while he is typing is an unacceptable behaviour.Oh Haku...I have to get up in around 7 and a half hours, please don't drag this any longer =/
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Anyway, Haku is probably waiting for my vote and I want my sleep so votekill jorp
Anyway, Haku is probably waiting for my vote and I want my sleep so votekill jorp
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Blame jorped for taking an hour to prepare a post
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
He's offline... vote Haku, please. He came this far, that's enough of an accomplishment.
He's offline... vote Haku, please. He came this far, that's enough of an accomplishment.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Oh, please. For a few more minutes of sleep, you are ruining the entire reputation you build
Oh, please. For a few more minutes of sleep, you are ruining the entire reputation you build
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
I don't care about some minutes but about half an hour or an hour. It's not just me, everyone is impatient.
Fine, I will wait and annoy you again in 15-20 minutes. In the worst case I will just see the results tomorrow
Oh, please. For a few more minutes of sleep, you are ruining the entire reputation you build
I don't care about some minutes but about half an hour or an hour. It's not just me, everyone is impatient. Fine, I will wait and annoy you again in 15-20 minutes. In the worst case I will just see the results tomorrow
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
About 20 minutes is probably the most I'll wait, either.
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Yeah, me too.
Fine, I will wait and annoy you again in 15-20 minutes. In the worst case I will just see the results tomorrow
About 20 minutes is probably the most I'll wait, either.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
At this point, you all know who i am gonna vote for. But before that, gonna explain what lead me to conclude Niichan could be Mafia, something i have been mentioning on the previous day phases! All my theory started with the fact that it isn't mandatory for the Mafia to have a Mafia Boss. My theory can also work if Niichan isn't a Mafia Detective but still, at this point the chances of him being able to pull something like this wouldn't be as high if he isn't a detective. We know who are the other Mafia: Lawl, which ended being the Janitor, Mazino and Kdowns.
Niichan had the best possible start on the game. He was the main reason why Frost died. After that, even if he is Mafia, he could pretty much relax during the day phases. What seemed to be a bad move for the Mafia, was definitely a good move for him.
Now if i am not mistaken at day phase 2, Kdowns was the one who ended being lynched, and one of the person that led that action was no one else than Niichan. Honestly this one strikes me as rather suspicious. But honestly Kdowns being inactive, i think Niichan decided that it was best to get rid of him. Once again Niichan would strength his "townie status", and transforming a "time bomb" like Kdowns, into something productive for the Mafia.
And not only that, but in the end i ended being seen as the most suspicious since i casted a vote on Kdowns, completely ignoring the fact he could be a bomb, but i have explained my point about this many time.
But honestly what seems rather suspicious in all of this, was Lawl's behavior. At day phase 4 both of them clashed ... and Niichan once again stood on the top, but what happened was a clearly "surrender" on Lawl's side. People even mentioned the fact he didn't even seem to be even trying to defend himself. Now looking back, the way he attacked Niichan, using as the main argument the fact that Niichan wanted revenge from Frost because of a previous game, was weak imo, and at my opinion it was something they premeditated. Why would Lawl even go for Niichan at that point? Doesn't make any sense. As i mentioned Niichan was pretty much well protected from being lynched during the day, because of 2 successful moves: the destruction of the third party, and being one of the reason why everyone started bandwagon Kdowns. So why would Lawl go for Niichan, and to make it even more weird, with such arguments?
My theory is that they all this planned ... people mentioned the fact Lawl doesn't know how to play Mafia, and honestly i think that's total crap. He is one of the biggest trolls i know on this forum, the chances of him doing such a bad play at that stage, isn't really that simple to analyse. Plus he isn't a noob on Mafia Games ...
So in the end Niichan was once again the one who lead to the death of another Mafia, in this case a Janitor, which obviously is an important role for the Mafia. But what is interesting is the fact that until then, we know the Mafia couldn't use the janitor for anything. First night phase, xi0 mentioned blocking Lawl ... they were prolly fearing the fact that Lawl would keep being targeted, so if we actually look into it, once again the biggest loss for Mafia, was on the number. Having a janitor wasn't having any importance on the Mafia side. But at this point and with Niichan revealing he was the bulletproof, there wouldn't be anyone would go against him anymore, at least until a stage like the one we are currently.
Now, that's why i think Niichan is the Mafia Detective. Plus if i remember correctly 3c was killed during night and since 3c was the freeman, a the day phase got skipped. So when it seems nothing would had changed, Mafia could be able to kill 2 people and investigate another 2 people. So by the time Niichan claimed to be the bulletproof ... something that together with the amount of roles that were know, either by the death people or by people revealing them, and the information he got from the previous nights, gave him the power to claim such role.
The only thing that fails on my theory is the fact Faust targeted him during 2 nights and i targeted him during 3 nights, being this previous night, my third attempt, and obviously i failed. At this point it isn't really important to conclude which one of us is what, but i think as i mentioned a lot of times, faust being the insane is much more likely than me being the insane and him being the naive. But anyway at this point Niichan survived at least 2 times from the work of the insane doctor. It's still possible though.
From this point on, i mean there were a lot of victims, being one of them, another Mafia, and surprise, surprise, Niichan was once again one of the people that agreed and gave solid information to why that person should be lynhed. Niichan did it, when obviously Mazino wouldn't last long. So once again, Niichan strengths his status as the Townie, who couldn't surely be a Mafia.
And to make everything worse for my side, Niichan has been protecting me way too much over this last couple of phases. Why would he even do that? If he was really townie, he knew for sure, there were chances of me being Mafia, but he completely ignored them. For an experienced Mafia Game player to do so ... it could be easily unnoticed, by the fact of our relationship is really good so it's normal, but Niichan knows aswell as me that this is a game, and you have to question everyone. Obviously i played with this ... i didn't wanted to be killed at this phase, cuz honestly if it ended being Charlie and Niichan, it would be insta vote for Charlie, and townies would loose. That is assuming Charlie wasn't the mafia, something i won't say now, i thought be the case. I always had Charlie as a suspect, and he was definitely before Niichan on the probability of that case being true.
With this said, someone who played a lot of Mafia Games, deceived a lot of people on some of those games, decided to trust me without ever thinking of questioning me? Honestly i don't really understand what he would gain with something like that. Using the "bro i trusted you ... i can't believe you have fooled me" won't work at this phase, and not like Niichan is the only one who can use it anyway at this point.
And seriously at this point, asking Haku for proofs if he is really innocent, doesn't make sense at all .... seems like an attempt of something like this:
*let me ask haku, if he really is innocent ... i can play with that, since it will seem like i am not forgetting about anyone, and it will give the idea, i haven't given the fact jorped is a Mafia a thought, and will strength the fact that i Jorped being a Mafia is something really out of the blue for me*
It doesn't make any sense to act like this when we all know Haku isn't lying about his role. It isn't possible for this to be the case, since all previous "members of his group" died, and were confirmed to be Masons, so ... i don't really understand what you even aim with that. Seems like a pro mafia player acting like a noob, which i don't really buy it.
Anyway at this point, i am voting for him either way, but before doing so, Haku can ask me whatever he wants, and the same goes for you Niichan.
At this point, you all know who i am gonna vote for. But before that, gonna explain what lead me to conclude Niichan could be Mafia, something i have been mentioning on the previous day phases! All my theory started with the fact that it isn't mandatory for the Mafia to have a Mafia Boss. My theory can also work if Niichan isn't a Mafia Detective but still, at this point the chances of him being able to pull something like this wouldn't be as high if he isn't a detective. We know who are the other Mafia: Lawl, which ended being the Janitor, Mazino and Kdowns.
Niichan had the best possible start on the game. He was the main reason why Frost died. After that, even if he is Mafia, he could pretty much relax during the day phases. What seemed to be a bad move for the Mafia, was definitely a good move for him.
Now if i am not mistaken at day phase 2, Kdowns was the one who ended being lynched, and one of the person that led that action was no one else than Niichan. Honestly this one strikes me as rather suspicious. But honestly Kdowns being inactive, i think Niichan decided that it was best to get rid of him. Once again Niichan would strength his "townie status", and transforming a "time bomb" like Kdowns, into something productive for the Mafia.
And not only that, but in the end i ended being seen as the most suspicious since i casted a vote on Kdowns, completely ignoring the fact he could be a bomb, but i have explained my point about this many time.
But honestly what seems rather suspicious in all of this, was Lawl's behavior. At day phase 4 both of them clashed ... and Niichan once again stood on the top, but what happened was a clearly "surrender" on Lawl's side. People even mentioned the fact he didn't even seem to be even trying to defend himself. Now looking back, the way he attacked Niichan, using as the main argument the fact that Niichan wanted revenge from Frost because of a previous game, was weak imo, and at my opinion it was something they premeditated. Why would Lawl even go for Niichan at that point? Doesn't make any sense. As i mentioned Niichan was pretty much well protected from being lynched during the day, because of 2 successful moves: the destruction of the third party, and being one of the reason why everyone started bandwagon Kdowns. So why would Lawl go for Niichan, and to make it even more weird, with such arguments?
My theory is that they all this planned ... people mentioned the fact Lawl doesn't know how to play Mafia, and honestly i think that's total crap. He is one of the biggest trolls i know on this forum, the chances of him doing such a bad play at that stage, isn't really that simple to analyse. Plus he isn't a noob on Mafia Games ...
So in the end Niichan was once again the one who lead to the death of another Mafia, in this case a Janitor, which obviously is an important role for the Mafia. But what is interesting is the fact that until then, we know the Mafia couldn't use the janitor for anything. First night phase, xi0 mentioned blocking Lawl ... they were prolly fearing the fact that Lawl would keep being targeted, so if we actually look into it, once again the biggest loss for Mafia, was on the number. Having a janitor wasn't having any importance on the Mafia side. But at this point and with Niichan revealing he was the bulletproof, there wouldn't be anyone would go against him anymore, at least until a stage like the one we are currently.
Now, that's why i think Niichan is the Mafia Detective. Plus if i remember correctly 3c was killed during night and since 3c was the freeman, a the day phase got skipped. So when it seems nothing would had changed, Mafia could be able to kill 2 people and investigate another 2 people. So by the time Niichan claimed to be the bulletproof ... something that together with the amount of roles that were know, either by the death people or by people revealing them, and the information he got from the previous nights, gave him the power to claim such role.
The only thing that fails on my theory is the fact Faust targeted him during 2 nights and i targeted him during 3 nights, being this previous night, my third attempt, and obviously i failed. At this point it isn't really important to conclude which one of us is what, but i think as i mentioned a lot of times, faust being the insane is much more likely than me being the insane and him being the naive. But anyway at this point Niichan survived at least 2 times from the work of the insane doctor. It's still possible though.
From this point on, i mean there were a lot of victims, being one of them, another Mafia, and surprise, surprise, Niichan was once again one of the people that agreed and gave solid information to why that person should be lynhed. Niichan did it, when obviously Mazino wouldn't last long. So once again, Niichan strengths his status as the Townie, who couldn't surely be a Mafia.
And to make everything worse for my side, Niichan has been protecting me way too much over this last couple of phases. Why would he even do that? If he was really townie, he knew for sure, there were chances of me being Mafia, but he completely ignored them. For an experienced Mafia Game player to do so ... it could be easily unnoticed, by the fact of our relationship is really good so it's normal, but Niichan knows aswell as me that this is a game, and you have to question everyone. Obviously i played with this ... i didn't wanted to be killed at this phase, cuz honestly if it ended being Charlie and Niichan, it would be insta vote for Charlie, and townies would loose. That is assuming Charlie wasn't the mafia, something i won't say now, i thought be the case. I always had Charlie as a suspect, and he was definitely before Niichan on the probability of that case being true.
With this said, someone who played a lot of Mafia Games, deceived a lot of people on some of those games, decided to trust me without ever thinking of questioning me? Honestly i don't really understand what he would gain with something like that. Using the "bro i trusted you ... i can't believe you have fooled me" won't work at this phase, and not like Niichan is the only one who can use it anyway at this point.
And seriously at this point, asking Haku for proofs if he is really innocent, doesn't make sense at all .... seems like an attempt of something like this:
*let me ask haku, if he really is innocent ... i can play with that, since it will seem like i am not forgetting about anyone, and it will give the idea, i haven't given the fact jorped is a Mafia a thought, and will strength the fact that i Jorped being a Mafia is something really out of the blue for me*
It doesn't make any sense to act like this when we all know Haku isn't lying about his role. It isn't possible for this to be the case, since all previous "members of his group" died, and were confirmed to be Masons, so ... i don't really understand what you even aim with that. Seems like a pro mafia player acting like a noob, which i don't really buy it.
Anyway at this point, i am voting for him either way, but before doing so, Haku can ask me whatever he wants, and the same goes for you Niichan.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Interesting. Let's hear out the counsel for the defense.
Interesting. Let's hear out the counsel for the defense.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Why i think this is gonna end like this?
Anyway if that is the case, i will congratz you. You have prolly made one of the best plays on all Mafia's history!
Nice move Niichan ... using personal reasons to manipulate Haku to rash his vote. At this point, it wouldn't even give me a chance to defend myself. And once again who would win with that?Oh Haku...
Why i think this is gonna end like this?
Anyway if that is the case, i will congratz you. You have prolly made one of the best plays on all Mafia's history!
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Actually, your success would eclipse even that of niichan's, considering you'd have survived a seven-against-one situation as a newbie Mafia.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
The difference is that i am not a Mafia. At this point, it's pointless for me to say this anyway
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Holy christ, do I seriously need to answer all this?
I've been trusting jorp too much, that's the point where I agree with him. His behaviour wasn't screaming suspicious to me and I probably was swayed by my feelings. Lol that sounds so silly
I'm impressed jorp came up with something like this, which is not impossible but highly unlikely. The main fault here is that the chances of me surviving an insane doc two or three times in a row is highly unlikely too. Well there's no confirmation Faust actually was the insane one but going with jorped's theory one of them would have been one.
Whatever, not in the mood to drag this for much longer. Make your choice Haku and don't make a show out of this. I'm pretty sure you already know who you want to vote for.
Holy christ, do I seriously need to answer all this?
I've been trusting jorp too much, that's the point where I agree with him. His behaviour wasn't screaming suspicious to me and I probably was swayed by my feelings. Lol that sounds so silly I'm impressed jorp came up with something like this, which is not impossible but highly unlikely. The main fault here is that the chances of me surviving an insane doc two or three times in a row is highly unlikely too. Well there's no confirmation Faust actually was the insane one but going with jorped's theory one of them would have been one.
Whatever, not in the mood to drag this for much longer. Make your choice Haku and don't make a show out of this. I'm pretty sure you already know who you want to vote for.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
votekill Naruto-niichan
True, i haven't actually done that.
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Honestly at this point of the game, the only thing you have to say is that? You are avoiding confrontation, and using my or faust's role to protect yourself. At this point of the game, you could try to give a better thought, but it's obvious you don't really need to do it, cuz i have been the one kept on check all this last phases, and i will be obviously the one who looses, when you try to avoid confrontation and just skip to the votes.Holy christ, do I seriously need to answer all this?
I'm impressed jorp came up with something like this, which is not impossible but highly unlikely. The main fault here is that the chances of me surviving an insane doc two or three times in a row is highly unlikely too. Well there's no confirmation Faust actually was the insane one but going with jorped's theory one of them would have been one.
Whatever, not in the mood to drag this for much longer. Make your choice Haku and don't make a show out of this. I'm pretty sure you already know who you want to vote for.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Now haku!!
Now haku!!
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
Well, what can I say?
No answer, again. After so many times, again, no answer. It was all going to end in familiar style, then. Logic says something and instincts say some other.
It can't be helped. Whatever I might consider, whoever I ask to about all these, the answer is pretty much the same. They will tell you to use your strength and they will strike you down from your weak spot. That's the natural rule of existence. I will never be able to reduce all that equation into the strong and the weak's argument. That has been my failure. Or perhaps the real failure was trying to mold something from an existing conceptual entity. Anyway, why am I telling you about all these? That just doesn't fit in here, or in another thread, or in another virtual or real life situation. Sometimes, it's just what it's.
Senpai would say "Bear the end result of your weak spot and use your strength no matter what happens in the end." Senpai.. I don't know if my strength has ever been enough to live up to the person you showed me to be or will be good enough in the future. Regardless, I'll die the way you have taught me, only until my weakness becomes my strength, and my strength becomes others' weakness.
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Well, what can I say?
No answer, again. After so many times, again, no answer. It was all going to end in familiar style, then. Logic says something and instincts say some other.
It can't be helped. Whatever I might consider, whoever I ask to about all these, the answer is pretty much the same. They will tell you to use your strength and they will strike you down from your weak spot. That's the natural rule of existence. I will never be able to reduce all that equation into the strong and the weak's argument. That has been my failure. Or perhaps the real failure was trying to mold something from an existing conceptual entity. Anyway, why am I telling you about all these? That just doesn't fit in here, or in another thread, or in another virtual or real life situation. Sometimes, it's just what it's.
Senpai would say "Bear the end result of your weak spot and use your strength no matter what happens in the end." Senpai.. I don't know if my strength has ever been enough to live up to the person you showed me to be or will be good enough in the future. Regardless, I'll die the way you have taught me, only until my weakness becomes my strength, and my strength becomes others' weakness.
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Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 8!
And a mafia game is not everything, I'm just too tired to start arguing with you now.
And don't worry, I'm not mad besides you lying in my face :P
Drop your desperate act, it was a nice try but I seriously hope Haku won't fell for it.
And a mafia game is not everything, I'm just too tired to start arguing with you now.
And don't worry, I'm not mad besides you lying in my face :P
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