Discussion SMILE Devil Fruits

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We are all seeing smiles everywhere in OP, from pirate´s simble to tatooes, and i think it would be fun to try finding out what ODA (all hail his name) means by all this (I know its hard but still, fun)... I can think of 3 possibilities:

1) They mean nothing and Oda is just playing with our minds.
Very unlikelly seeing how many smiles have popped up trought the series, lets see:
Binnamy, Doflamingo, Ace´s hat, at the auction house (doflamingo again i know), Kidd, Law, hell even Whitebeard has one http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/234/12-13/ (top left, on the serum thing...), i may have forgot some.
As i said unlikelly, but still possible

2) They relate to Roger´s execution.
As we know, the pirate king died with a smile on his face, so all the pirates, who admires his way of thinking and acting, wear some kind of smile in his honor.
Doflamingo wants to make everyone forget the old way of the pirates and create the "new age", therefor he is "anti-smile" and thats the reason behinde his sign.
This is the most accepted theory, but i dont like it, because its to predictable for ODA. Also, if that was the case, Luffi would defenetly wear one!!

3) There is some kind of secret society of pirates and the smile is the sign
Crazy uhn!?!? Well i think there is a community who secretly help pirates, with information, supplies, or any other way to finish the GL. Maybe some powerfull ex-pirates are behind it, or maybe current ones, and there are meetings, to recrute new members, and make plans.
Something like what warriors in the middle age used to do. Even thought they were in enemy armies outside, they respected each others strenght while inside, and, lived theire lifes following a set of rules they established among themselfes.
I´m thinking that Doflamingo was expelled from it, and now is against anything the society has decided.
I know there are a little holes in my theory, but u get the point, and im sure ODA could make something like that, but perfect as allways


Well what do u think of this theories?? Can u come up with something different?? Cmon lets try breaking the ODA CODE hehehe!!
 

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Second one of these makes the most sense, predictable or not. As for Luffy not wearing one, he already has a Jolly Roger. Chance is it's not known to him (might not be well known in the East Blue) and even he was told about it now, I don't think he'd change his sign. Imo, it's just a different style of Jolly Roger which symbolizes the old era.

I don't have intention on breaking the "Oda code" because trying is useless and if I was actually right in my predictions then it wouldn't be half as fun reading the manga. :tem
 

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I think it's just a symbol of pirateering in the same way the skull and crossbones are in my opinion. I could go for the Roger theory, since a symbol of Roger is really a symbol of a pirate in the pirates age post-Roger, but not really anything beyond that.
 

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I think its just simply a break away from the typical skull and cross bones that was overly used at the beginning of the series.

I think chances are that if they do mean anything at all is the 2nd more popular option. But is in no way significant to the storylines.
 

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The Smiles represent the new age bought upon by Gol D Roger.
So option 2.
 

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Dofamingo is into medical business too?

i'm not sure if anyone mention this b4
but i was rereading OP
and i saw this on the top right hand corner
the bottle
is that doflamingo's crest?
 
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Re: Dofamingo is into medical business too?

i'm not sure if anyone mention this b4
but i was rereading OP
and i saw this on the top right hand corner
the bottle
is that doflamingo's crest?

Wow good eye! That symbol is used by Pirates from North Blue, which is why Doflamingo has one like that. Maybe it's a Pirate made medicine, or just from North Blue. But I'm still surprised you noticed that....?!
 
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Re: Dofamingo is into medical business too?

there is a thread that already discussed about those smilie-shaped thingy here
 

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The second one has my support, predictable or not
 

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I don't know if this had been discussed before, but there are rumors that BB could have eaten a devil fruit even before he ate the Yami Yami fruit. And that DF is a mythical zoan Cerberus fruit. That theory is supported by BB's pirate flag with 3 heads and also Shank's scar that looks like a scratch made by an animal. And it could also be the reason how he was able to eat more than 1 DF.
And now that Smile is introduced, I'm thinking. Is it possible that the Cerberus fruit that BB ate is a Smile fruit?
 

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Well that point about BB Pirates' flag is certainly interesting, but if you look in Chapter 645, Teach is seen wearing a Wolverine claw type thing on his hand. That would explain Shanks' scar.

As for BB's potential cerberus DF being a SMILE, it's not an impossibility but it seems unlikely. Where would Teach have got it from when it was being supplied to Kaido and not WB? I don't see any hints that would point to his cerberus DF being artificial. Plus I'd imagine a cerberus DF would be a mythical zoan, and it would be a bit strange if that was artificial. Not that it's confirmed or even near being certain that he has a cerberus DF.
 

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Don't want to break the party, but first smile was probably produced like one year ago.
 

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Don't want to break the party, but first smile was probably produced like one year ago.
Doflamingo talked about "the smile's age" before the time skip

 

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Yes, he talked about the age of smiles but it's not a gven that he was already producing them. CC supposedly returned to PH a year after the incident that made it toxic, which means 3 years ago. I'd take it he didn't immediately know how to produce SAD nor did Doflamingo have factories and procedures to make smiles already available. Which means reasearch and development took some time. I said one year, but it wasn't more than 2 years ago, since Dofla mentioned it.

In any way, there's no chance in hell Blackbeard ate a smile, unless he traveled to the future.
 

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My slightly more ridiculous theory was that he ate the cow-cow fruit giving him four stomachs. One fruit per stomach would let him have one more (Cow + Darkness + Quake + ?).

I think a limit is ruled out though by the explanation that they're still hunting people down and stealing fruits.
 

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I think a limit is ruled out though by the explanation that they're still hunting people down and stealing fruits.
It's just a vague information. Also, nobody said all of them are for Blackbeard. There are 2 important things we should remember. First, Blackbeard could possibly be able to have more than one fruit because of his atypical build. What that means, ask Marco... Is it limited to 2 abilities or can he have even more? We'll have to wait and see.

Second, Blackbeard knows of some kind of procedure which enables him to catch other people's devil fruit when they die. Is it limited only to him or can other people use the same procedure as well? We'll have to wait and see that as well. But, seeing how he covered Whitebeard with a blanket, it might mean that other people could do it too, if they saw what he did.

I just hope he's limited to 2 only, because a bad guy with too many different powers is always boring.
 

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With all due respect, this is nonsense. It's raw speculation with no canon support. Moved to Playground.
 

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Yes, he talked about the age of smiles but it's not a gven that he was already producing them. CC supposedly returned to PH a year after the incident that made it toxic, which means 3 years ago. I'd take it he didn't immediately know how to produce SAD nor did Doflamingo have factories and procedures to make smiles already available. Which means reasearch and development took some time. I said one year, but it wasn't more than 2 years ago, since Dofla mentioned it.

In any way, there's no chance in hell Blackbeard ate a smile, unless he traveled to the future.
The "Age of Smiles" that DD was talking about is the mass production of smiles. If he's already talking about mass production, it could only mean that smile had already been invented and tested. Because how can he mass produce something that's still in his mind?
And creating something like smile isn't a fast and easy process. It's a trial and error thing. So before they could create a smile that is ready for mass production, I'm sure it took them years and a lot of testing. And it's not impossible if BB got hold of one smile from the first batches.
But ofcourse, this is just a theory. The first time I heard about BB having the Cerberus ability, I got really interested. And the introduction of smile just made it more interesting.
And it wasn't DD or Caesar who first produced an artificial DF. It was Vegapunk who made it first although it was a failure. Caesar just copied Vegapunk's experiment and perfected it. So before DD ever had plans of doing it a business, an artificial DF already existed.

I don't see any hints that would point to his cerberus DF being artificial. Plus I'd imagine a cerberus DF would be a mythical zoan, and it would be a bit strange if that was artificial. Not that it's confirmed or even near being certain that he has a cerberus DF.
You're forgetting about Momonosuke. His artificial DF is a mythical zoan.
 

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The "Age of Smiles" that DD was talking about is the mass production of smiles. If he's already talking about mass production, it could only mean that smile had already been invented and tested. Because how can he mass produce something that's still in his mind?
I don't know. How could Apple announce iPhone 5 before it was even produced?

If he was one of the testers for the smile, Oda wouldn't give a hint of his "atypical build". I'm more inclined to believe Blackbeard is a member of some unknown sub-race or something like that.
 
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