Seinen xxxHolic by CLAMP

Who is your favorite xxxHOLIC character?

  • Kimihiro Watanuki

    Votes: 13 28.9%
  • Yūko Ichihara

    Votes: 19 42.2%
  • Shizuka Dōmeki

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Himawari Kunogi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mokona Modoki

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Kohane Tsuyuri

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Maru and Moro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Haruka Dōmeki (Shizuka's grandfather)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mugetsu (Kudakitsune)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zashiki-warashi

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Reed Clow

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Total voters
    45

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

Full thoughts: I guess you could say I’ve been having a mixture of feelings. One one hand, I am totally disappointed. Not only was there no resolution to the fact that Yuuko-san had not come back (the thing was merely a dream- but more on that later) but nothing resolute had come out of this chapter. I was extremely hopeful to at least get a glimpse of her, or know if Watanuki’s waiting had actually paid off. Nope. Not only that, but finally we understand the meaning of the Egg she gave to Doumeki which is a cruel, cruel task. In the beginning, Yuuko-san only tells Doumeki that “nothing will be born out of that egg.” While ‘nothing’ relates to tangible, it seems that the egg is to be used for Watanuki to forget Yuuko. She also told Doumeki some time ago that he would be the only one to know when to use it, as he shared Watanuki’s right eye and they had become closer.

The biggest shock of course, was learning that 100 years had passed by since the event of Yuuko’s death, and Doumeki had passed away, leaving a very uncannily look alike grandson behind. While this saddens me immensely, as that must mean Himawari-chan (WHO NEVER SHOWED UP IN THIS FUCKING CHAPTER WTAF) must have passed away too, it also gave me relief that the Doumeki never paired up with Watanuki and that it sort of set and end to that hope (as much as fangirls all over are disappointed.) I’ve always shipped Yuuko and Watanuki despite the interesting relationship they have had (some think of it more as a mentor/student or a mother/son relationship, but I thought it was too personal for that). I am just extremely mad that none of the other semi-main characters played any resolution in all of this. Himawari wasn’t there. Zashiki Warashi wasn’t there. Kudakitsune wasn’t there. It definitely gives off this feeling that CLAMP suddenly burst it’s bubble and said “Oh, we’ve got to end this now before the serialization of GATE 7” and they did.

In spite of all of this, I definitely feel relief. It’s an open ending. Watanuki continues to wait for Yuuko. He has enough power to get out of the cage. In that meaning, it is hopeful. He is able to move freely around. And he did see Yuuko again. Which of course, brings us to the dream.

We’ve all known that a major theme in xxxHOLiC is dreams. There is a particular example when Harada-san tells Watanuki of the Butterfly Dream. Once there was a boy, who dreamed he was a butterfly, flying, being free. But then he woke up, and asked himself “Was I dreaming of becoming a butterfly? Or am I the butterfly, dreaming that I have become a man?” Later on, Yuuko-san tells Watanuki- “It’s the same dream.” Lastly, right before Yuuko vanishes, she tells Watanuki “If you dream/wish hard enough, it can be a reality.”

Which brings me to ask. Who’s dream was it? Was it Yuuko-san’s dream? Or was it Watanuki’s dream? Or are they the same thing, two people wishing for each other’s continual existence, only hoping that one day it comes true? It definitely is a mindwracking question. But like all things xxxHOLiC and CLAMP, there is more meaning than to what meets the eye. In the end of the chapter, we see the butterfly and the bird fly off together. Watanuki’s symbol is the Bird (Tsubasa~) and Yuuko-san’s the Buttefly (change). It is this sort of resolution that while not completely understandable at first, lends a hand in completing the circle.

Either way, I’m somewhat satisfied. This open ending wasn’t great, but it wasn’t the worst. And it leaves us to hope that somewhere in the midst of CLAMP’s new works, we will see Watanuki again. And maybe, just maybe, Yuuko-san too.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

We’ve all known that a major theme in xxxHOLiC is dreams. There is a particular example when Harada-san tells Watanuki of the Butterfly Dream. Once there was a boy, who dreamed he was a butterfly, flying, being free. But then he woke up, and asked himself “Was I dreaming of becoming a butterfly? Or am I the butterfly, dreaming that I have become a man?” Later on, Yuuko-san tells Watanuki- “It’s the same dream.” Lastly, right before Yuuko vanishes, she tells Watanuki “If you dream/wish hard enough, it can be a reality.”
Not only that, but when Yuuko was talking about Fei-wan Lead she always said "The dream must end". If she at some point said "It's the same dream" Could it always have been the same dream, even when she spoke about Fei-wan ?
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

I, myself, am also feeling a little uncomfortable about the ending. However, I was really more into the anime than the manga. and from what I can tell from the ro ova. There are some hints that Yuko may be alive. Also I saw a screenshot from the new one, and Yuko is there! So maybe the new Ova will answer some questions that the manga couldn't. And who knows? Maybe they might sneak in an epilogue chapter in the 19th volume.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

No, i don't want Watanuki to be Fei Wang Reed in the future. (although there could be a possibility) :darn

I'm hoping that it would be on a positive side that Watanuki would rather be an individual/sole magician just like Yuuko, Fei Wan and Clow Reed who would be the new successor rather than an image of the past magicians or their reincarnation.

Even though Watanuki was someone to fill the gap for Syaoran/Tsubasa on TRC, being him included to the Li family, shows hints (e.g. the magic circle on the last chapter) that he probably had acquired the powers from the said family, imo. Although before, Yuuko said that Wata looked like Clow Reed when Clow was young, and there was also the case of Fei Wang as a direct descendant of Clow.
If ever Watanuki is not an individual/unique character of his own, he might fall either to be Fei Wan or Clow in the future. To think that Fei Wan and Clow's identities are mysterious and where they came from and how they are related to Yuuko, somehow others came up theories that Watanuki could be either of them.

Somewhat a bit off-topic.. I remembered there were instances that Fei Wan wanted to revive the witch (Yuuko) so much which he said plenty of times in chapter 226 & 227 on TRC, which made an impression for me that he resembles Watanuki in some aspects. It makes me wonder also what is the reason why Fei Wan wanted to exceed Clow. When I tried to re-read chapters 220-221 of TRC, it was explained that Clow made a wish that Yuuko's life might remain but it was Fei Wong who attemtepted to grant the wish and not Clow. This made me an impression that Fei Wong is like an afterimage or the other alter ego of Clow. If we'll correlate it to the present Watanuki, Wata knew that a dead can't be brought back to life because Yuuko taught him about that. If he didn't break the law of nature (which will lead him to be like Fei Wan) and instead he is the one that made the wish on holic's last chapters to see Yuuko again, knowing that his powers are growing stronger as time goes by, he could be like Clow (or worse, he might be him), whereas even a simple wish of wanting to see Yuuko and having the strong desire/feelings for it, the strong magic he possess might create something out of it (even their just unconscious thoughts) just like in Clow's case of accidentally halting time for Yuuko.

Back to topic.. I just observed that the egg's role which was Doumeki's grandson was keeping was the exact opposite of the earring's function which white Mokona kept and gave to Syaoran (the black Mokona handed its earring before to white mokona). The earring consists of memories to all kinds of different people which Syaoran and company had encountered before. (refer to TRC epilogue chap., pg. 27, 28, 29)
Though someday, I hope to see these items again and will be used perhaps in other clamp's work so that we'll know the purpose of these things.

Anyway, these are just some of my thoughts/theory regarding the last chapter and on the characters.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

Isn't watanuki 100 years past the events of reservoir chronicles and all that stuff though? Maybe I missed something though.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

I ain't readin' it 'till them there missin' chapters is translated, yo... :sweat

Hope someone posts about it when it happens, I'll hafta keep poking around once in a while in the meantime.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 213 Discussion (Final Chapter)

@ZaCloud: I think the chapter was already updated some few days ago on failmanga's site.
The missing pages were added.

http://failmanga.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/xxxholic-c213v2-the-end/

@kkck: Its kind of difficult to explain Tsubasa Chronicles timeframe because it's somehow complex. Here's a timeline of events for clamp's three series crossovers, mainly CCS, TRC and xxxHolic. On holic's timeline though, i think the events in the last chapters/events were not yet listed.
 

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Re: List Of Quote From xxxholic

Bravo maestro, bravo.
My favorite one is:

"Instead of regretting what we cannot do, it is better to do what one can. Even for example, what you do has nothing to do with results, you must forge forward."
-Yuko-san. Volume 9, P.157.
 
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Chapter 1 of xxxHolic Rei has been released. After reading it, I wonder what CLAMP wants to do with that serie. It's like an old chapter of xxxHolic...
 

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Chapter 1 of xxxHolic Rei has been released. After reading it, I wonder what CLAMP wants to do with that serie. It's like an old chapter of xxxHolic...
Yeah, seems like an alternative plot line of some sort, rather than a continuation? Though I might be wrong and it could all be a dream. At any rate Yuuko =)))))) (I'm guiessing they're going for this effec)
 

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hey i wanna start readinh xxx holic , i watched some episodes of anime , so my question is should i read some other manga from clamp too , to catch up with xxx holic , or i can start from xxx holic rei
 

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If you want the whole story of xxxHOLIC then you'll have to read the manga as well (the original xxxHOLIC) since the anime pretty much skipped a lot of parts and doesn't cover the whole story. That said, I have no idea how Rei relates to the original story as of yet.
 
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