Football 2014 FIFA World Cup - Part 1

[Leoat12]

What is it matter? What happened outside of the World Cup, stay outside of the World Cup.
CR7 was one of the top scorers right? He did nothing it WC.

 

[FrostyMouse]

http://www.goal.com/es/news/1880/fú...ssi-el-máximo-anotador-de-este-2014-en-europa

Is this post ok, master Kaiten?

Well, honestly, 2014 stats only count if you count all of the 2014 season, like when Messi set the record for goals in 2013. Caring about who scored more goals in half a season is kind of irrelevant. Ronaldo and Suarez scored more overall. Messi may have had a slightly better second half, but that might mean he was just in better form in the second half. He was injured in the first half and that's all she wrote.

 

[Hardy]

Well, honestly, 2014 stats only count if you count all of the 2014 season, like when Messi set the record for goals in 2013. Caring about who scored more goals in half a season is kind of irrelevant. Ronaldo and Suarez scored more overall. Messi may have had a slightly better second half, but that might mean he was just in better form in the second half. He was injured in the first half and that's all she wrote.

It isn't irrelevant, as jorped is questioning his current level (not the level he had when he was injured), which Messi has shown is prolly the best in the world thanks to those stats I've posted.

 

[Leoat12]

Stay classy, Brazil. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28185948

When Germany's captain missed out on the WC Final, you were all like, "It's totally fair." Now that your captain's missing out against Germany, you're all like, "What is this bs?"

It is more because the absurd criteries that that "referee" used in that match. There are 100 fouls would need more yellow card than that and he didn't give. But, when Thiago Silva collides with the goalkeeper unintentionally (you guys know Thiago Silva very well, obviously he didn't do this on purpose), "it is a crime, yellow card for him!" *sarcasm*

The referee didn't know how to read the mood, as always in that match, and give a unnecessary yellow card. Mark foul was good enough.

Don't worry though. Probably FIFA will omit itself and doesn't do anything as always. The same with Zuñiga.
Who says that we are been favored makes me laugh out loud.

Germany captain case was something like that as well?

 

[FrostyMouse]

It isn't irrelevant, as jorped is questioning his current level (not the level he had when he was injured), which Messi has shown is prolly the best in the world thanks to those stats I've posted.

Ronaldo's injured at the moment (you could see that in the WC) and Suarez wasn't fully fit in the WC, but he still scored, although then he bit.

 

[Hardy]

Ronaldo's injured at the moment (you could see that in the WC) and Suarez wasn't fully fit in the WC, but he still scored, although then he bit.

So? How does that change that Messi is the best atm

 

[FrostyMouse]

It is more because the absurd criteries that that "referee" used in that match. There are 100 fouls would need more yellow card than that and he didn't give. But, when Thiago Silva collides with the goalkeeper unintentionally (you guys know Thiago Silva very well, obviously he didn't do this on purpose), "it is a crime, yellow card for him!" *sarcasm*

The referee didn't know how to read the mood, as always in that match, and give a unnecessary yellow card. Mark foul was good enough.

Whether it's necessary or not isn't the point. Interfering with the keeper during a goal kick, not just when the keeper has the ball (there is a difference), is, by the book, a yellow card-worthy offense. I'm not saying it's right, but tell Thiago to not run into the keeper/ball during a goal kick.

The ref didn't book Neymar when Neymar charged way past where the wall was supposed to be during that free kick.

The point is that you need to deal with it and not whine about it. Other countries have had their captains suspended for huge matches before. Especially because of how Ballack missed out on the WC Final, this is sort of fair. Thiago Silva only has himself to blame, however. He's not a bad guy, or anything, but observing the rules of the game are important.

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So? How does that change that Messi is the best atm

He's gotten to play more matches as well...

Did Messi have three or four in the group stages? I think it was four. Anyway, you were trying to discount when Messi was injured, so don't discount the fact that Ronaldo and Suarez were injured down the stretch in spring 2014.

 

[Hardy]

He's gotten to play more matches as well...

Did Messi have three or four in the group stages? I think it was four. Anyway, you were trying to discount when Messi was injured, so don't discount the fact that Ronaldo and Suarez were injured down the stretch in spring 2014.

Except that those stats are from May, before Ronaldo got injured? Then Ronaldo scored in CL Final, that amazing penalty in the last minute. Both scored again in La Liga. So, Messi 27, Ronaldo 24. With the WC, Messi 31, Ronaldo 25.

And no, Ronaldo played more matches.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Except that those stats are from May, before Ronaldo got injured? Then Ronaldo scored in CL Final, that amazing penalty in the last minute. Both scored again in La Liga. So, Messi 27, Ronaldo 24. With the WC, Messi 31, Ronaldo 25.

And no, Ronaldo played more matches.

I hadn't even looked at whatever stats you posted. I was just talking about how judging players based on criteria that make one player look better is kind of silly, as opposed to judging an entire season or an entire calendar year.

My last comment was just about in the WC, not elsewhere.

Anyway, didn't Ronaldo get injured at like the end of April?

 

[Sky]

I do hope that the FIFA won't disappoint us here. If they won't punish Silva, we would know for sure that the FIFA wants Brazil to win this wc no matter what. Germany will be playing against 12 players anyway.

 

[Leoat12]

Whether it's necessary or not isn't the point. Interfering with the keeper during a goal kick, not just when the keeper has the ball (there is a difference), is, by the book, a yellow card-worthy offense. I'm not saying it's right, but tell Thiago to not run into the keeper/ball during a goal kick.

The ref didn't book Neymar when Neymar charged way past where the wall was supposed to be during that free kick.

The point is that you need to deal with it and not whine about it. Other countries have had their captains suspended for huge matches before. Especially because of how Ballack missed out on the WC Final, this is sort of fair. Thiago Silva only has himself to blame, however. He's not a bad guy, or anything, but observing the rules of the game are important.

By the book, a knee in the back that causes vertebral fracture is red card. Again, absurd criteria.

Are you talking about that indirect free kick? I don't have the video to see the details...

As I said, FIFA won't do anything. Don't worry.

 

[Hardy]

I hadn't even looked at whatever stats you posted. I was just talking about how judging players based on criteria that make one player look better is kind of silly, as opposed to judging an entire season or an entire calendar year.

My last comment was just about in the WC, not elsewhere.

Anyway, didn't Ronaldo get injured at like the end of April?

Early April. Which is why I think he missed some matches (that, and the red card in February). That didn't stop him from scoring against Bayern tho.

Why would I use an entire season if we're talking about current level?

Edit: The point is, jorped is exaggerating and is butthurt

 

[Sky]

By the book, a knee in the back that causes vertebral fracture is red card. Again, absurd criteria.

Are you talking about that indirect free kick? I don't have the video to see the details...

As I said, FIFA won't do anything. Don't worry.

Wow... Just wow.
Zuniga won't get punised because of the factual decision rule of the FIFA. Just because the referee made a mistake here it is also a mistake if he acts according to the rules? Are you kidding me?

If Fernandinho had seen a yellow card for his idiotic foul after the beginning of the match nothing of this would've happened.

It should've been a yellow card for Neymar so according to the rules he should've missed the semi final anyway.

Let's hope so. Otherwise it would be a scandal.

 

[Leoat12]

I'm not gonna discuss with Germans anymore, our meeting is already scheduled. France would be good, but Germany is good as well to finish this at once.

We have good defenders to substitute Thiago Silva and he will play the final anyway.

 

[Sky]

If we play like we did against France you will lose.

Your arrogance is fun though. Well Silva will play in the match for 3rd place, yes.

 

[Hardy]

We have good defenders to substitute Thiago Silva and he will play for the 3th place against Holland anyway.

FTFY

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If we play like we did against France you will lose.

Your arrogance is fun though. Well Silva will play in the match for 3rd place, yes.

How does the media there value the other 3 teams? They over hype everything and say you have this already or they are all emo in case they get dissapointed like you guys, lol.

 

[Sky]

How does the media there value the other 3 teams? They over hype everything and say you have this already or they are all emo in case they get dissapointed like you guys, lol.

Depends on the media. Most of them just hope but if we rank them according to the average media coverage in Germany:
Germany - Argentina - Nertherlands - Brazil. In that order.

 

[Hardy]

Depends on the media. Most of them just hope but if we rank them according to the average media coverage in Germany:
Germany - Argentina - Nertherlands - Brazil. In that order.

Why do you guys care about us so much

Here everything is mostly about us. Like, we know our chances and we're already happy that we're in the top 4 after 24 years, and the media keeps showing the same videos over and over again (Higuain's goals in 2010, Maradona against Belgium, Goycochea against Belgium, etc... now it'll be the Netherlands' turn I guess, lol). I think that, not counting us, most people see Brazil as the weakest of the rivals left (even with Neymar), but respect them because they are locals and they are fcking Brazil. 2nd would be the Netherlands, because RVP, Robben and Sneijder are really big names and have been perfoming (except RVP, he's fighting against the offside line, lol). And then well, you fckers, because of 1990, 2006 and the rape you gave us in the last WC.

Trying to be objective, I think that atm the level is like: 1st Germany, then Netherlands/Messi + 10, last Brazil.

 

[Sky]

Well I do believe that it is finally our turn to win this thing but you'll never know.
It is kinda hard to keep my usual 0-expectation-mood when some just can't be objective.

I seriously hope Webb will be the referee for Tuesday.

 

[Leoat12]

If we play like we did against France you will lose.

Your arrogance is fun though. Well Silva will play in the match for 3rd place, yes.

Do you think?

I seriously hope Webb will be the referee for Tuesday.

Are you kidding with me? THAT would be a scandal.