Shounen UQ Holder! by AKAMATSU Ken

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What I am more interested is that Fate is considered the greatest wizard in the solar system. How strong has he gotten I wonder... Stronger than Eva? Touta sure is stumbling with Kirie, though I find their exchanges very amusing.

Also, why the spoiler tags?
 

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This is just going downhill fast. What caused Fate to turn evil again? Anyway, he acts as if Touta's a created being, not a real human, and just something to be possessed, but Eva was able to turn him into a vampire, so...

On the other hand, it could be argued that without Negi around, there'd be nothing constraining Fate from acting however he wanted. It's not like he's working for Cosmo Entelechia, he just seems to possess his own organization now. I'd like to see if Al's still around somewhere or if he finally passed on or something. I would assume Nagi died at a certain point, probably before Negi, but you never know.
 

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I just assumed Fate's alliance with negi was conditional and negi failed to meet the conditions in the long run thus fate's current status. Touta's past is becoming more and more mysterious. who is he that Fate wants him this badly?
 

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Ok, finally caught up with negima and this manga...

Well, as a few thoughts:

By now we know negi is pretty much alive but like his father before him missing. The issue is why and it probably has to do with fate's recent comments. We saw negi in nagumo's flashback and that was only 20 years ago. Not to mention that negi seemed to still be young and he was called the most immortal or something. Perhaps more interesting is the fact that negi's magia erebea had changed a decent bit from his youth which seem rather weird. He had the wing things touta has and to boot his actual body seemed more demonic. I guess a lot must have happened since then. Maybe the magia erebea we saw back in the day was not even properly developed. We even saw negi did not appear to have that a strong regenerative power. I wonder if he ever did surpass evangeline...

Anyways, as for fate I don't think the issue is that he is evil per say. To me it kinda seems like he is very utilitarian and a numbers person so to speak. I guess he could have changed in the past 80 years or so but to me it would be unlikely. Seeing his attitude towards touta it would seem like touta has something that fate specifically wants for whatever reason. It would be weird if it was touta himself considering he did not hesitate to tear him apart and seemingly take him. I guess his immortality might deal with that although it is also entirely plausible that touta being alive is not quite important here. As for what touta could have... If we assume any consistency with his old character it would perhaps make sense that touta has something that can be relevant to the elevator, mars and such things. Touta seems to have quite the lineage so far (related to negi, strong possibility of asuna, and somehow to konoka apparently even though she was a lesbian) so maybe he has some other remarkable magics even beyond magia erebea. If he got healing powers or his own magic nullification then perhaps that would be pretty important, it could easily relate to some plot points from negima. Then again fate was called the most evil dark mage however that might as well be an issue of perspective. Plenty of other characters have had murky roles in history so far (nagi, eva...).

My take is also that the enemy will be the mage of the beginning. It kinda seemed like negima did not really quite deal with him appropriately and was left for this sequel. Even in the end a lot of the plot points were dealt with by the old folk and eva rather than negi and his harem.

One thing I do find a tad weird is that touta has magia erebea at all. Should he have that? His situation is quite unlike that of his grandfather... Negi got it from training and then the thing made him immortal. In turn touta got it seemingly straight from eva. Does that make sense? Is it something innate of those with eva's brand of immortality? What seems weird is that magia erebia is supposed to feed on the darkness of the user. Negi had an affinity towards that from the start which is why he was able to learn it and eventually overcome it. But he did it embracing the darkness and that stuff. In turn touta is a polar opposite to negi, he seems to be more like nagi (and asuna). Negi was calculating, he did not have that "idiocy" factor which rakan or his dad had and the two of them were from the light so to speak. Touta is precisely the kind of idiot they were, a far more straightforward shonen hero. Well, touta does not like to fight and he does not even seem to properly enjoy being so adept at fighting but that only makes the situation weirder. So that he has magea erebea and that he is able to overcome it seems kinda cheap here. On the other hand the case can be made that there is some huge darkness to touta which is what allowed him to use magia erebea and overcome it. Perhaps that even relates to what fate wants.... It is also interesting to note just how much unlike negi touta is. Along with his personality it seems like touta will fight completely unlike negi. So far it would seem like touta will be more like nagi... A few spells and then just kick ass the old fashion way. Maybe kanka? Kanka and magea erebea would be too hax though. There has to be more to his style in the future anyways, I doubt he could survive as an immortal if he limits his fighting to fighting like a mortal. Then again ki alone seems to be able to come a long way.
 

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I think people are focusing too much in that we don't know the exact plot here yet. There clearly is a plot in mind and we are given clues about it every now and then. I mean, there have been plenty of references to the previous manga and they all seem to be building up to what is going on here.

Anyways, question, is the UQ holder base built where the school used to be? The place where the gravity blade was found does seem to be where albireo lived which kinda hints at that. But then, what happened to the tree?
 

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I think people are focusing too much in that we don't know the exact plot here yet. There clearly is a plot in mind and we are given clues about it every now and then. I mean, there have been plenty of references to the previous manga and they all seem to be building up to what is going on here.

Anyways, question, is the UQ holder base built where the school used to be? The place where the gravity blade was found does seem to be where albireo lived which kinda hints at that. But then, what happened to the tree?
The school wasn't an island outside of what's presumably Tokyo. I would think that the school is either still present or it's where the Tower is now. On the other hand, I can't see anyone cutting down the World Tree, as it was quite important for the world.
 

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What I really like about this Manga so far are all of those small nudges to the negima manga.
Like mentioning a sword that's Alberio's. Kind of funny. Didn't expect Alberio to have a sword but here it is.
Then the huge satelite. I'm surprised it exists and can be used by someone other than chachamaru.

I just wish we'd get to see more of the negima crew. Like in the girls grand children and what not.
 

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Well, it is not just nudges, the manga is a straight up sequel that is dealing with the consequences of the previous manga. What I find interesting is just how different tota is from negi. Negi was the smart sort and a mage and whatnot. Seeing the manga it seems like tota will lean more towards being like nagi or nagi's rival (forgot the name). I guess it is a bit interesting that tota can become strong without being a mage at all.

Anyways, if the sword belongs to albireo, doesn't that hint at what I asked earlier about the location beneath UQ holders base being albireo's home?
 

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Well, it is not just nudges, the manga is a straight up sequel that is dealing with the consequences of the previous manga. What I find interesting is just how different tota is from negi. Negi was the smart sort and a mage and whatnot. Seeing the manga it seems like tota will lean more towards being like nagi or nagi's rival (forgot the name). I guess it is a bit interesting that tota can become strong without being a mage at all.

Anyways, if the sword belongs to albireo, doesn't that hint at what I asked earlier about the location beneath UQ holders base being albireo's home?
You're looking for Rakan.

Well, a lot of us thought that it was Library Island originally, but now, it's hard to say.
 

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Fate really does has a hard on for Negi lol. In any case, it seems he has taken up Ala Alba for the name of his crew. Choosing that because Negi was apart of it? Tsukuyomi is still around, this is gonna get messy real bad if touta and co. don't get reinforcements. Yikes @ Kirie, poor girl got petrified.
 

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And like always they somehow manage to unpetrify Kirie, with unpetrifing delayed spell or what i like to call it "unpetrification app...". God how can some characters pull out such things from their ass like it's nothing.
Also the raws are available on mangabird
 

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Its not that weird really. We are 80 years into the future and technology and magic have long combined. To boot the petrification is something which was already dealt with at some point between the mangas. New technology and such things are bound to play a decisive role in the manga. One of the things I look forward to is seeing how things we saw in the past manga get obsolete. It should be a decent plot point considering magic is common place. It would even be interesting if fate as a whole somehow is not as much of a threat as he used to simply because counters to magic are easily purchased.

I wonder about the actual state of the mars terraforming plan. Supposedly the plan is still ongoing however it seems like there has been a problem. I wonder how touta is connected to that... Hopefully the next couple of chapters will shed some light in regards to touta's heritage. It is very weird that negi is actually his grandfather considering negi stayed a kid as an immortal.

Another thing, the manga made the point that there were two magia erebea users, one complete and one incomplete. My guess is that negi now had wings because he is the complete one and for some reason eva never got to that but somehow touta did. There is something very weird going on here in that regard.
 

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Even I question where this is going. They're really gonna let Fate go after all that trouble?
Why even bother in the first place? All that for 4 questions seems rather anti climatic considering the fighting.
 

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So, in the end, as expected, Fate's not evil, Negi's still alive, and Fate is obviously lying about killing Touta's parents.
 

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The issue with fate is not that he is evil, he simply has not changed from back in the day. In negima he wasn't acting out of malice, he simply saw a path that had less bloodshed but involved making a seriously disturbing choice. His path was to kill millions to save billions... And assuming there is no other way he had no choice... In this case he is probably doing the same thing, he has a path that will cause huge amounts of pain but will get the job done.

As for negi, we already knew he was alive. The very timeline the manga suggested made it clear. I mean, he died 30 years ago but that immortal hunter saw him 20 years ago.... Odds were high that negi was alive and somewhere. Fate kinda cheated this chapter considering kirie did not get a question. Karin kinda wasted hers though.
 

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Good to see that Academy City still exists. I'm not a huge fan of them visiting it, but this will probably be used as an opportunity to show off whoever remains of Ala Alba (most likely Asuna) or maybe some of their children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren.
 

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Good to see that Academy City still exists. I'm not a huge fan of them visiting it, but this will probably be used as an opportunity to show off whoever remains of Ala Alba (most likely Asuna) or maybe some of their children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren.
They will probably run into fate who will still be teaching there lol. It is a pretty good place for them to meet some of negi's old friends who might have remained. Some of them should still be alive considering everything (that class president girl could be around here). Perhaps kotarou will appear soon enough. Somehow it would make sense to see kaede or yue there too.

I wonder if there will be some plot point around good old asuna. Technically she is still sleeping somewhere while the version that traveled back lived around lives or lived around. If negi is sealed perhaps it had something to do with her too.
 

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They will probably run into fate who will still be teaching there lol. It is a pretty good place for them to meet some of negi's old friends who might have remained. Some of them should still be alive considering everything (that class president girl could be around here). Perhaps kotarou will appear soon enough. Somehow it would make sense to see kaede or yue there too.

I wonder if there will be some plot point around good old asuna. Technically she is still sleeping somewhere while the version that traveled back lived around lives or lived around. If negi is sealed perhaps it had something to do with her too.
Maybe. I think we'll see Al, because he's like 3000 years old or something.

Iinchou-san should still be alive, it's true, given that she was around in the original future, if I recall correctly, at least.

I'm not really sure how time travel works in this universe. When Negi used that time watch/device with the power of the World Tree, the events of the original timeline appeared to be wiped out and Chao was okay with it. So, I would think that there is no sleeping Asuna, but she might still be around somewhere. I wonder if Konoka's father left Kyoto and became the headmaster, assuming that Gramps died after another 50 years.

I wonder if Negi's "death" in the original timeline was supposed to tell us that he sealed himself and took Asuna's place or something, unless she was sealed as well still (which Iinichou implied)...Although, now he appears to have sealed himself for some other purpose, as Asuna was rescued in the changed timeline.
 
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