TV THE HEROES THREAD: [SPOILERS]

[destinator]

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Well I think its easy to get dissapointed with the episode, but if you look at it the right way it was a really cool ending to season 1.

At first people have to realize that Heroes isnt as action packed as you expect a story about people with specials powers (I guess most people are expecting too much Xmen here...for example me too xD). I would have loved a bigger fight between Sylar and Peter but that wouldnt have been good for the story.

As for the people wondering why Peter wasnt just flying away on his own. I think he had trouble keeping himself from exploding. If he would have concentrated on using multiple ablities he probably couldnt have hold back the explosion.

The only real issue I have with the episode is Hiro stabbing Sylar. I guess most will not like this scene. Because Sylar could easily have stopped him. The only reason I see here that Sylar was totally overconfident in this moment. When Hiro raised the sword he probably thought he wouldnt do it like the last times he encountered him. They could have handled the scene a bit better, for example Hiro freezing time just for splitseconds to stab him or something like that...

I read it somewhere else but I also like it that the season started with two totally different brothers and ended with a new relationship between them. The Nathan of the beginning was totally different, and he even got more corrupted through the season. However actually he was the only person who had a real choice all over the season. He knew what was going to happen and what the consequences would be of this. I liked the outcome ...

Overall I really liked the episode, also one thing that was really nice is that the season actually had a end. A lot of series just stop at a scene (for example if peter is going to explode) and you have to wait almost half a year to find out whats going to happen.

The biggest problem for heroes is for me that its too story driven and simply hasnt enough screentime and budget to grow it to its full potential. The season final really felt forced and rushed. I guess people would have like a 2h final episode much more and it would have felt more completely. Thats a problem with a lot of episodes for me. You could easily add 15-30min extra time to most episodes to make them much more clear and perfect. Cant be helped...I still cant wait for the next season .

Btw the guy at the end = hiros dad xD?

 

[kadodo]

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@jim120: It might not only be the father that makes Peter time Travel, it could also the power of Simone....

@des: Yeah, I did not like how Hiro stopped Sylar either, there should have been like a stopping of time and then all of a sudden Sylar realizes tha he was stabbed.

And yes, it looked to me that this guy was Hiro's dad. And mark my words, Hiro is going to stay there for a while and get more talented with a sword.

waw it a solar eclipse at the end? I wonder what will be the meaning of it.

 

[destinator]

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waw it a solar eclipse at the end? I wonder what will be the meaning of it.

We saw the very eclipse at the beginning of heroes. However I know that it was there but I think it got cut..? Damn it least I know that scene...

 

[Sarmad]

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Well I think its easy to get dissapointed with the episode, but if you look at it the right way it was a really cool ending to season 1.

At first people have to realize that Heroes isnt as action packed as you expect a story about people with specials powers (I guess most people are expecting too much Xmen here...for example me too xD). I would have loved a bigger fight between Sylar and Peter but that wouldnt have been good for the story.

As for the people wondering why Peter wasnt just flying away on his own. I think he had trouble keeping himself from exploding. If he would have concentrated on using multiple ablities he probably couldnt have hold back the explosion.

The only real issue I have with the episode is Hiro stabbing Sylar. I guess most will not like this scene. Because Sylar could easily have stopped him. The only reason I see here that Sylar was totally overconfident in this moment. When Hiro raised the sword he probably thought he wouldnt do it like the last times he encountered him. They could have handled the scene a bit better, for example Hiro freezing time just for splitseconds to stab him or something like that...

I read it somewhere else but I also like it that the season started with two totally different brothers and ended with a new relationship between them. The Nathan of the beginning was totally different, and he even got more corrupted through the season. However actually he was the only person who had a real choice all over the season. He knew what was going to happen and what the consequences would be of this. I liked the outcome ...

Overall I really liked the episode, also one thing that was really nice is that the season actually had a end. A lot of series just stop at a scene (for example if peter is going to explode) and you have to wait almost half a year to find out whats going to happen.

The biggest problem for heroes is for me that its too story driven and simply hasnt enough screentime and budget to grow it to its full potential. The season final really felt forced and rushed. I guess people would have like a 2h final episode much more and it would have felt more completely. Thats a problem with a lot of episodes for me. You could easily add 15-30min extra time to most episodes to make them much more clear and perfect. Cant be helped...I still cant wait for the next season .

Btw the guy at the end = hiros dad xD?

I coudn't agree more! You really said it all ^^
I guessed that the show has budget issues, since its network might not be the biggest. But i'm not sure here either. Hopefully it'll change in the future, with some more producers?!

Ah, about that solar eclipse! Well it's been bugging me since the Episode when Peter and Suresh met. One shouldn't look directly into a solar eclipse, cause it's bad for the eyes. The retina will actually melt away by looking into a solar eclipse, but that's apparently not happening for our heroes ^^
I'm not complaining, but stuff like this is avoidable! And Masi Oka should definitely take more Kenjutsu training XD

 

[kiddo7]

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By the way, was anyone else surprised at the reveal of Mr. Bennett's first name?

 

[kadodo]

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We saw the very eclipse at the beginning of heroes. However I know that it was there but I think it got cut..? Damn it least I know that scene...

Oh yeah, I remember now. Maybe it was how it all started...

By the way, was anyone else surprised at the reveal of Mr. Bennett's first name?

Really? I missed that, what was it?

 

[manu]

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Noah, I thought it was pretty cool because the whole series he was "HRG" (Horned Rimmed Glasses xD) or Mr. Bennet.

Um well when I meant that Simone and her dad weren't dead I meant in the sense that they get more screen time >.> yeah...

So yeah next season is going to have some new characters I heard. One of them is going to be some... Paris Hilton spoiled girl or something. I'll have to check. Oh and I think there is a new asian on the cast. I'll try too look up some more spoilers on next season.

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Oh and it sucks that Hana is dead... I mean come on she was so hawt T,T Read the comic blogs on nbc.com if you want. But um right now she lives as some wireless program but she probably won't ever make a comic on the TV show.

 

[Koen]

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euhmmm, that molly mentioned about one guy she can't track and because that guy can see her? New bad guy? It wasn't sylar, because she tracked him. Or did I miss something...

Btw I always wondered why linderman didn't heal molly if he had the powers. Maybe we can assume he couldn't use it on a hero.

After all I liked this episode, everything was in it and the main part was solved. I liked it that nathan at the end saved the world together with his brother. And those guys saying that the way sylar was killed is stupid.

A. Hero was faster than sylar in using his powers...
B. Sylar saw that picture in the book of hero stabbing him
C. Finally, somehow sylar isn't dead. Based on the last present scene. And he used some powers when he felt down

So I think there's a stronger person, someone that's even more dangerous. And he's the guy who saved sylar somehow

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-Why can Sylar control the bomb guy's powers? Is it because of his ability to know "how things work" and also the waitress' "learn things quickly" ability.....hmmm

Sylar cuts out the skull and studies the brain, and therefor he learns using the ability. Ned could control his powers, and by teaching it with using the brain sylar knew to control it too.

Sylar is like a clock maker, he just knows how to make the clock in himself. He studies evry part of the complete thing

 

[weixiaobao]

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i just wonder what link the Simone's dad, Hiro's dad, Peter's dad, and mr. linderman, plus a new guy who is worst than slylar have? just a mytery I guess...

i think before the series even began... there was a group of heroes that may included the above but not limited to... (also + Peter's mom)

 

[kadodo]

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Noah, I thought it was pretty cool because the whole series he was "HRG" (Horned Rimmed Glasses xD) or Mr. Bennet.

Um well when I meant that Simone and her dad weren't dead I meant in the sense that they get more screen time >.> yeah...

So yeah next season is going to have some new characters I heard. One of them is going to be some... Paris Hilton spoiled girl or something. I'll have to check. Oh and I think there is a new asian on the cast. I'll try too look up some more spoilers on next season.
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Oh and it sucks that Hana is dead... I mean come on she was so hawt T,T Read the comic blogs on nbc.com if you want. But um right now she lives as some wireless program but she probably won't ever make a comic on the TV show.

Noah? I'll have to rewatch it again, who mentioned his first name by the way?

Hana dead? I have to catch up with those comics? I cannot wait for the next season....

euhmmm, that molly mentioned about one guy she can't track and because that guy can see her? New bad guy? It wasn't sylar, because she tracked him. Or did I miss something...

Btw I always wondered why linderman didn't heal molly if he had the powers. Maybe we can assume he couldn't use it on a hero.

After all I liked this episode, everything was in it and the main part was solved. I liked it that nathan at the end saved the world together with his brother. And those guys saying that the way sylar was killed is stupid.

A. Hero was faster than sylar in using his powers...
B. Sylar saw that picture in the book of hero stabbing him
C. Finally, somehow sylar isn't dead. Based on the last present scene. And he used some powers when he felt down

So I think there's a stronger person, someone that's even more dangerous. And he's the guy who saved sylar somehow
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Sylar cuts out the skull and studies the brain, and therefor he learns using the ability. Ned could control his powers, and by teaching it with using the brain sylar knew to control it too.

Sylar is like a clock maker, he just knows how to make the clock in himself. He studies evry part of the complete thing

I did not like how Sylar was killed either but he was stopped somehow. As for him being alive? I think so too because it seemed that he escaped from the sewer at the end. but I do not think it's the guy that's stronger than him that saved him.

 

[weixiaobao]

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Noah? I'll have to rewatch it again, who mentioned his first name by the way?

Hana dead? I have to catch up with those comics? I cannot wait for the next season....

I believe Mr. Bennet gave it .. in the end of the episode to the Mohinder...

 

[bilheteira]

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I believe Mr. Bennet gave it .. in the end of the episode to the Mohinder...

to peter petrelli

 

[Koen]

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Noah? I'll have to rewatch it again, who mentioned his first name by the way?

Hana dead? I have to catch up with those comics? I cannot wait for the next season....



I did not like how Sylar was killed either but he was stopped somehow. As for him being alive? I think so too because it seemed that he escaped from the sewer at the end. but I do not think it's the guy that's stronger than him that saved him.

Well it is just what I assume. He could have done it on his own. If that girl says he can see her when locating him, that guy must be very strong...

Btw, is it not strange that pater was back in history with simone his dad being able to talk. And that hiro is in 1600 + to see an event that prolly has to do something with the heroes

Is there a hero, a person who can somehow influence those events? (I mean not the events changing) but the fact he is using powers to get peter, hiro, etc to there?

 

[Rahan]

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I loved the episode except for the final Hiro - Sylar fight.

In the end, Nathan is the only casulaty among the main "Heroes" (DL and Parkman seem to have survived and it has been stated zillion of times Peter would survive this, even if he may be frozen in space and unable to come back now).

There should not be many more new characters for the next season since almost all the regulars are still there. Maybe Claire's mom and Invisible Man (best actor of the show IMHO) will get a bigger role.

 

[Koen]

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I loved the episode except for the final Hiro - Sylar fight.

In the end, Nathan is the only casulaty among the main "Heroes" (DL and Parkman seem to have survived and it has been stated zillion of times Peter would survive this, even if he may be frozen in space and unable to come back now).

There should not be many more new characters for the next season since almost all the regulars are still there. Maybe Claire's mom and Invisible Man (best actor of the show IMHO) will get a bigger role.

My brother watched a video with kipke and he said he plans to make several season but that you don't have to be suprised if actors aren't anymore in it. I heard that he plans to set up several stories, with new heroes and new actors... But then again you never know

 

[manu]

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Its true that there will be new characters. And since we all know that its hard for them to cram all the characters in at once you can be 100% sure that some of our favorite charactes are going to get a lot less screen time.

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Also I don't think Peter would come back to life if it meant that he was his brother's murderer. He's just not that kind of person.

 

[kadodo]

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I think that we will have new favorites among these new characters. One thing, I would like though is to have another teen other then Claire. And even though he's already dead, I would like to see more of Simone's dad.

 

[The Boff]

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Btw the guy at the end = hiros dad xD?

i think his exact words to Hiro was: I have been waiting for centuries for a Nakamura to rise.....
I have been waiting. so i guess that he is Takezo Kensai
and if you look closely on these pics its pretty undisputable that it is George Takei

i did not like the ending though. the whole episode felt stupid to me.
they could have solved everything with just Sylars death and HIro wouldnt end up in feudal Japan.
so to me it was pretty dumb

and who the hell is it that the little girl thinks is worse than Sylar?

 

[manu]

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Ok lets try to think of the clues we have. There has been two confirmed generation of Heroes. The young one that we watch daily that has only one bad guy which is Sylar.

Second generation was mad up of a bunch of old people who were working torwards a common goal until they all strayed from their path. I think its safe to assume that they fought a Sylar-ish badguy who they had to band together to fight. From what we've seen the only thing that can successfully unite the heroes are overpowered Heroes. My theory is that when the older generations "Sylar" dissappeared some of the heroes started drifting to the dark side.

Now what if the older generations "Sylar" never really died and has just been doing what all the other older generation heroes have been doing? Manipulating the course of actions of course! That seems reasonable since a power that can watch back means the guy has been in supervising the newer generation of heroes.

Of course its all just theories, but I was right with saying Molly was important. Wrong about Simone not being dead though... but her dad was kinda alive =P

 

[Koen]

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Well all things will be explained in the next season. Don't worry, but I hope that it will be nor like a lost that's giving more questions than things being answered