Re: Different day, same old hunk: xi0 Edition
Of course it isn't that easy to explain and it would be useless to discuss it but I really don't have a good feeling regarding our future (as humans) if this continues.
A loss because he didn't understand that Yukinon was trying to be the president for herself and she just needed a fake reason to actually accomplish it. On the other hand Hikki needed a fake reason for saving the club although he already had one. That really is funny. They are so similar with the one being so afraid of being accepted and the other one being that scared of being rejected.
Sure it was a "failure" in that regard but only because Yukinon did lose. He himself won.
Then again that savegame comment was priceless. If he had that choice again, Hikki would've done exactly the same thing. Because that is who he is.
A hero to us both. Damn that heat...
Well I definitely feel the same....
Yeah they're so similar but no, that's not exactly what I meant. I meant it's a loss because Hachiman actually prevented them from progressing as a group. Sure Yui or mosst likely Yukinon becoming president would've changed things, but they could've worked together in the student council for example. Funnily enough it's the same kind of thing we had with Hayama's group, where Hachiman actually ridiculed him for being shallow friends if that breaks the group. He actually ridiculed Hayama for wanting to preserve that group, and yet he did exactly the same thing for the exact same reason (fear of loss) this time. Sure there was a risk of destroying the group, but Hachiman also destroyed the chance of them progressing as a group and reaching a stronger form of friendship. In the end the show really is about a bunch of teenagers being afraid of loss and change, each dealing with it in their own way. It's really clever and well-written.
I definitely wasn't expecting that level of heat and humidity...
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The spoilers made a slight mess out of your post Zel, had to copy it completely because with simple quoting, parts would have been lost xD Won't use spoilers this time, not like people will read this wall anyway xD
How long have you been one? What are you teaching
?
Not for long, started last October. Don’t misunderstand though, I’m not a teacher xD I can look after and educate kids from age 1-18 but not at a school. It’s more about teaching the basic stuff at daycare centers and the likes, though what you teach obviously depends a lot on their age. Right now I’m looking after the youngest age group (1-3/4), it’s a lot of fun but a lot different than older kids obviously. Never thought I would actually change diapers of kids (despite my own XD), but it’s really fascinating to see how much the children grow up and learn in such a short amount of time. Prolly the age group where you can see the biggest progress in a matter of two years. Learning to walk, learning to speak, using the toilet, etc etc. May sound like really simply stuff but it’s such a huge step for the kids and you can’t help but be happy when they finally learn to speak with you or walk towards you on their own two feet
I wish I have the time to venture into other TYPE MOON stuff but things are getting busy now that a new school term has started. The next time I'll have so much free time is probably roughly a year from now.
Well since I left and "came back" pretty much a lot happened. I got a girlfriend, then we broke up and then there was a period of time when I lost myself just pointlessly living. Studies also went downhill because I would work hard for projects and then do badly for papers which will drag my overall grades down. Mainly because of how vain(not sure if that's the correct word) a person I can be, as in I care a lot more about my image as a person who contributes a lot to projects rather than someone who can take care of himself and study hard for individual paper assessments. We get like 6 projects per term over here.
Crap, I went on and on with such a long pessimistic rant again.
Anyway, for the positives. I have taken up gymming and swimming. Basically just work my ass off out to at least try to reach a goal in life(that hot body
) and well I told myself I would study my ass off and we'll see how it goes. At this point, I can't apply for the university of my choice but if I work my ass off something good is bound to happen right? I hope it goes well.
Then there's this girl in my group that I'm interested in but there's this guy in my group that wouldn't stop making fun of me
He keeps making degrading comments about me, particularly about my intelligence because my GPA is lower than his. That is really sucking my mood throughout the day. I would shoot back at him if I could but he's my friend and been one of the closer ones since the first year. And arguing with him will affect the project works (we are the same in all 6 projects) so I'm now stuck in a hard place. I realize he might be doing this because we are in the group consisting of 3 girls and I'm the only guy. People can be so tiring.
But hey, I like to think it's better than before.
Let's bring back the happy!
Wow another year from now... School must keep you insanely busy huh? Sounds tough : ( Were you on vacation or something until now?
Hmm yeah, sounds like a lot happened. Breaking up is never fun (broke up with my girlfriend some time ago too...) but I still hope the time you spent together is a fond memory for you.
Are you really a „vain“ person? Feels like you’re a bit too harsh on your side. Or maybe you meant overly self-conscious? I know that feel, I’ve been like that quite often too. You don’t want to disappoint others, for them to see you in a good light. Doesn’t mean you’re vain at all though, it’s mostly a mix of being a kind person and having some insecurities if you ask me. So there are good and bad sides to that. Changing that is really hard, because that would mean you need to change your personality on a fundamental level. I don’t think I’ve achieved that either, but I try to be as confident in myself as possible, and to care less about opinions from people who don’t really mean much to me. Still kind of hard, sometimes you just fall back into old behaviour and in the end you just can’t change the person you are. Just feeling like giving you my support because I think I really know how you feel
Try to change what you don’t like as much as possible, even the smallest step can help a lot. And if it’s not really working the way you want it to then whatever, no need to beat yourself up over it. Everyone is different and in exchange you have qualities others don’t. Easier said than done I know, but I know that you’re a good guy so don’t feel depressed!
Setting yourself some goals definitely helps. How is it working with achieving a hot body?
I think it’s something everyone wants, but it’s certainly not easy to achieve... which reminds me that I was slacking for too long too XD
Regarding your friend.... doesn’t sound like much of a good friend tbh. I know that kind of „friend“, I was friends with a guy like that too. Sounds like he’s only focusing on his personal gain and doesn’t mind „trashing“ you in the process. Honestly I would recommend to shoot back. Not really because of the girls (though if there’s one you like that’s also a reason) but there’s no need to get yourself beaten without defending yourself. If he can’t deal with you firing back then he’s just a sore loser and not much a friend. Not like you have to shoot back hard, but just show some kind of resistance. Or better than that, talk to him about it. That’s always the best way. Don’t know how well you know him, but you could always talk about him regarding working together. Instead of bashing yourself, point out each others qualities and go help with going for the girl each of you prefers.
Maybe it'll get release next year! We can only hope..but then again I can't read japanese so that would probably mean a lot of waiting
BUT THE ART IS PRETTY.
Don’t think that’s likely but thanks for the encouraging words XD Can’t read japanese either, so it will definitely take a long time until I can enjoy that VN... oh well, waiting is all I can do. I was actually thinkink of visiting a course for learning japanese, but it’s prolly going to be pretty expensive and time-consuming, so I’m not sure if I should do it or not...
Here’s the PV from two years ago in case you’re interested:
You're such a good reader. Usually I just drop things(I know I shouldn't), I wish I have your attention span. I remember starting Katawa Shoujo and dropping it somewhere for example.
I can understand why you think Umineko is...perplexing. Tbh the only reason I started it was because I originally watched Higurashi(did you read that?) and the whole "people dies in a loop" thing drew me in and the challenge of solving the mystery behind Umineko kept me going.
Aaaand in the end I don't think anyone solved the catbox yet.
Where did you last stop? It's really something to read on a rainy day.
Just remember if you go back again: Every loop exist for you to discover, on your own, the truth behind the incident. It gets a whole lot sadder if you stick to it. If you are playing the one that has dated graphics, I highly recommend the ps3 patch.
I guess I just don’t like dropping stuff if I have invested a good amount of time into it. Maybe I’m a good reader too, but I think in the end it depends on how captivated you are. You won’t drop something you really like, so if you drop a show or book or whatever it means that you actually weren’t too fond of the thing. I tried Katawa Shoujo before FSN I think, but I dropped it shortly after starting. The whole VN thing was still new to me and the story wasn’t my thing at all for some reason....
And yeah I’ve watched Higurashi, so I have a good idea how Umineko is going to work in the end. Basically four mystery arcs or so and then we will get arcs answering all the questions brought up. I think I dropped shortly after the first arc, where the main guy and a maid visit some... park or something? Just felt so way different compared to the first arc (where basically the whole family gets murdered IIRC) and then I got spoiled for some reason (the maid going yandere or something) and I got busy so... lots of things coming together. Will certainly pick it up again at some point if you say it’s worth the time, Higurashi’s answer arcs were really good too.
And no worries, I played the one with updated graphics. Old graphic looks just horrible if you ask me xD
*adds to list of things I want to do but can't because of time constraints
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But if it made you cry it must be really good so I WILL READ IT. and the mystery genre is the best genre.
Great, looking forward to hear your thoughts even if it’s in a year from now on
I’m pretty sure you will like it.
Does he read Umineko if he doesn't maybe I should convince him.
How did the two of you go to Tokyo? Wait I mean, you guys just met and flew there?!
Haha you can try to convince him, but I can tell you that’s no easy thing to do XD Not because he’s that stubborn or anything, but he’s rather fickle when it comes to things like that. He might put it on his list or something, but for example it took him a year to start Ever 17 since I told him to play it. He has a lot of things he wants to read or watch or play, so getting him to start it might take a long time
Hmm well we knew each other for months here and we clicked really well together since the early days. That’s why we could went on that trip besides never meeting each other before, we knew it would work xD We made a lot of planning beforehand and it worked out mostly just as it was supposed to do, we didn’t have a single conflict or anything, just a lot of fun. Tokyo was amazing, I can tell you that much
I doubt I would go back to Ever17 because the front part was pretty dry unless I suddenly wake up one morning with nothing to do. Nice fan piano piece
Have you tried 999? It's on the DS(you can load it up on an emulator) and it's written by the same person who wrote ever17.
Yeah I feel the same, I think with all the mysteries solved there’s not that much appeal to play the VN again. Haven’t tried 999 but I heard it’s by the same guy. Maybe I will try it at one point, but right now I’m playing Muv-Luv and then Muv-Luve Alternative afterwards. I heard Alternative is amazing, but you need to play the prequel to know about all the connections and to feel the whole impact.
I just realized that most of the characters that starred in HF is my favourites in Fate/stay too.
Whoa, did Nasu predicted who would be fan's favs? Well...except Sakura.
Well Lancer was my only favourite that was shafted aside. Saber had her time too even though its underdeveloped compared to other paths. Well.. I don't really know what to say because you kind of summed up a lot of what I think. (Is the assassin in stay/night same as zero?)
But UBW is still my fav route with HF coming a close second. Fate route was good but just not made from the same cut. I guess I'm just a sucker for someone who stubbornly believes in their path. Tbh I feel like I need to reread ubw again just to understand what the message really was about. Was it to always believe in your path and live without regrets even if the world keeps striking you down? Or even if you yourself comes and tells you to give up?
And it's not just UBW. Even Heaven's Feel had me questioning a lot of stuff, it makes me wonder if that's the only message the route is trying to deliver and makes me want to re-read it.
Not sure if he did and not everyone feels the same way, for example some people really love Gilgamesh and he was trashed in HF XD Never really understood the love for his character tbh. His Noble Phantasm is amazing and cool to look at, but his whole attitude screams annoying to me. He can be fun but he’s far from being my fav character, at least not in his adult form.
And yeah, the Assassin in HF is a different kind of Hassan. Remember that Assassin always is supposed to be a different Hassan, because the leader always was called that name besides being a different person each time. That’s what True Assassin wished for in HF, to become an identity by his own, not just called one of many Hassans. That’s also why they have a different ability each time, besides all being called Hassan. They’re the same person from the legend, but ultimately they’re a different person each time.
I think it’s a mix of messages, it’s up to the person reading the story to interpret it his own way. I think the message was kind of to accept the life you led, even if you feel like it might have been a mistake. It’s what you chose and believed in, what you wanted to do, so there’s no need to look back with grief. In the end it means that you’re supposed to come to terms with your past actions as long as that is what you wanted to do. If you despise and reject your past then you’re basically doomed as a person. Accept what you regret and be fond of the things you achieved and enjoyed.
It’s what I like about VN’s, they spent so much time on building characters and messages that the impact is just that much stronger (for me).
I...used the Fuwanovel version so I don't think it was Realta? Or was it half realta?
Do you know where can I find the hidden CG/addition CGs? I was pretty sure the rape part was explained for my version and there was some CG that I saw did not exist in the original.
But damn I would go back and get Realta just to remove the sex scene in Saber route during the Ruins part.
Nope, the Fuwanovel version was the old one. The new one is this:
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthrea...a-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project
You can watch the video in the first post to get an idea of the things that are different. Kind of a shame, because the Realta Nua version really is superior in pretty much every aspect with added effects and whatnot. At least the patch is, because you can disable stuff I wouldn’t like, for example the toned down violence.
Sadly I couldn’t find a gallery with the new pics =/ I could make some screenshots of the new stuff if you want. And honestly, the H Alts (****** Alternatives) are really superior, at least for the Fate and UBW route. The only time the sex actually makes somewhat sense is during HF, the other two routes do better without the different scene. The sex just felt two forced and ridiculous in UBW and especially Fate.
What you can check out without playing Realta Nua is the redone soundtrack, I really recommend that
You can find it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aOSMxeYQPY&index=1&list=PLsMRrJWUFu1owM9SoIqfFOocGwYByNI_S
After playing Fate/stay I went back to look at my life and I realized I should have placed more importance on my own choice and my own decisions. Unknowingly I had let a lot of things that were not me shaped my life. I agree, it's like the real world except we can't load our save data and choose another route. And there's only one true Shirou for everyone, the one we like the most.
Well I think that’s how all of us feel at some point. I don’t think there are many people out there who actually just act according to their own whim or will. Not everyone has such an immensely strong will like Shirou, and I guess it’s not necessarily healthy either. Sometimes we need others to remind of us our faults, it’s only wrong if it goes against your own personality if you ask me. It’s a bit of a difficult thing, because on the one hand staying true to yourself is incredibly important, while on the other hand sometimes change is needed to find your place in society.
It was tough to watch for sure but she's a beautiful character till the end.
You could try the Fate/Kaleid liner Prisma Illya manga. It starts a bit weak but gets really great later on, and Illya can find her happiness there
Sadly I just can't empathize with him. I can only see him as a foil to all the other characters in Fate/Stay mainly because all of them are living their lives to their best, I'm not saying he wasn't fighting for anything but the fact that he is so fearful of death can only means he is nothing but someone full of regrets in his life. Maybe it's being despised or maybe it's because he never really experienced love. He wanted to escape death that badly because of how hollow his life probably was.
I don’t think that’s really it, though he obviously has regrets. I think that simply his wish got corrupted with time and he lost his initial goal. Maybe reading this helps:
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Justeaze_Lizrich_von_Einzbern
It’s mainly about Justeaze, but everything until the end of the profil part says enough about Zouken too.
He should be tortured to death, fed to the worms or killed resurrected killed resurrected killed again.. I hate how he survived in UBW. He doesn't deserve a second chance. Pretty much a spoilt kid who had everything and trampling on others without giving a shit.
Agreed XD
Regarding your thoughts:
In an alternate world, Shirou after getting together with Rin will help solve the Rin and Sakura relationship and in the midst of it together save her from the Matou family.
Yeah..I can dream.
I do! 100 Pushups a day is now my goal! I can only do 50 now at one go tho...
What about you? Are you more towards a UBW or a HF Shirou?
A great dream, I approve of that
100 pushups a day huh? Sounds awfully hard, I don’t think I could pull that off XD 50 already is pretty good! Hang in there, I’m sure you will reach your goal at some point
I’m a bit divided, both Shirou’s have their good and bad sides. I approve of both I guess, but I think I slightly prefer HF Shirou. Being able to sacrifice so much for your love is something I can admire and respect and his performance during the whole route is just amazing to me overall. Maybe I prefer him in HF because he actually makes the hard choices there, and that gives me even more respect towards him.
I wanted him to be the main bad in UBW so badly. As in, I wanted Rin to fight him or something but oh well...he shined so much in HF that it's fine. It's really nice to see a bad guy just being born bad and then might not actually be bad and that maybe we are all bad.
And then maybe there's no such thing as "bad" in this world.
Yeah it’s a bit of a shame that he gets so little time in UBW. Then again I don’t think that Rin would stand a chance against Kirei, the guy is just too powerful. Shirou would’ve easily lost too if Kirei hadn’t already lost his heart/source of life.
Exactly, that’s what I like about him too. He might be an asshole from our point of view but what can he do when he was actually born this way. Can we really call it bad then? This would make a great philosophic discussion xD
Btw, this track is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfVjv8oC-3Q
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Not sure when I last spent this much time answering a post... that took me around an hour I think lol XD
Must be the beard or something XD You look like a pro already, I'm sure with time you will own those guys ;D
Tell me when you got the next color!
