remember when you were arguing that everything would have been fine if Solomon had not intervened? Well now you know it wouldn't have been. David would have still taken over Illah and if Solomon hadn't taken that power and all, they'd be sitting ducks. They would have been in Alma toran and magi wouldn't even exist. Who would have stood up to David then?
No? Sorry I don't see your point to be honest,everything until now is controled by david so solomon's intervene was also under david's control,which solomon did exactly what david want how can this good ?
No? Sorry I don't see your point to be honest,everything until now is controled by david so solomon's intervene was also under david's control,which solomon did exactly what david want how can this good ?
we're talking about Solomon's individual actions. I'm not talking about what Solomon did being good or bad, I'm talking about the fact that you said everything would have returned to normal if Solomon had not intervened which wouldn't have been the case. Even if Solomon had not done anything, David would have still taken over Illah
we're talking about Solomon's individual actions. I'm not talking about what Solomon did being good or bad, I'm talking about the fact that you said everything would have returned to normal if Solomon had not intervened which wouldn't have been the case. Even if Solomon had not done anything, David would have still taken over Illah
Yes david would but that wasn't my point,my point is what he done was useless,it didn't stop david to take control of illah plus he sealed everyone's souls with illah,how can this better than other ? And we still don't know when that ''take-over'' happened,after david died or after solomon sealed illah ?
Yes david would but that wasn't my point,my point is what he done was useless,it didn't stop david to take control of illah plus he sealed everyone's souls with illah,how can this better than other ? And we still don't know when that ''take-over'' happened,after david died or after solomon sealed illah ?
actually, back when we had the argument, there were two points. The first was whether what Solomon did was good or evil, second was that Solomon messed up everything because if he hadn't taken Illah's power, things would have returned to normal. For the first point, it's more of a personal opinion thing and we agreed to disagree. The second though, you said Solomon ruined everything due to his arrogance and all because Illah would have recovered and things would have returned to normal. However, recent events have shown that wouldn't have happened. Remember that it was David who weakened and stole Illah's power in the first place. Mother dragon even mentions that point again. Solomon wouldn't have even been able to get to Illah if David hadn't already weakened him. I think that makes it fairly obvious that David would have still overcome Illah regardless. Heck, it was even the power David had stolen from Illah that Solomon took. Basically, Solomon managed to take power that David would have taken regardless. I'm just saying that you were blaming everything on Solomon and now we find that David still took over Illah despite Solomon's efforts.
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lol I will reply you later,have to sleep now(2-3 hours later the sun will rise in here )
But that ''Solomon ruined everything due to his arrogance'' part,that is not something I say but perhaps I said that,don't know kinda tired right now but you misunderstand my points or I couldn't explain myself well enough.
Overlord gave us one of the best OP songs though... And that ED:..
Talking about ED:
To be honest I had a tear in my eyes when I watched this the first time. Nostalgia. :')
Well yes. A lot of of them also have a rather small bust. So I am in love with Japan and Asia. Literally.
Damn I love those LB references.
I am looking for a new one though... So much fanart with sig material...
Ecchi desu ne~ Anego could call me anything she wanted...
Ms Translation of the Boruto Gaiden with Himawari activating byakugan is out.
isn't it weird it was triggered by emotions (like sharingan)? Plus does she know how to turn it off/on? It was still active by the time Hinata got there. Lol, Himawari is an interesting character
Awww I just love that family, thanks for pointing out that MS was done with the chap
Why would it be weird? In that world emotions can trigger everything, or more like it's a pretty common thing in manga an and anime in general xD Honestly I wouldn't really bother with the technological stuff, it's just there to give us a nice and funny family story
Nah but it is interesting. Though I do wonder when we will get actual plot.
I wasn't talking about the show itself. Just about the scenes in the ED. Watching Goku grow and stuff. :') The Anime itself it pretty awful... Worst animation quality I've seen in a while. *shivers*
What? No! Geez... x'D
Wafu~
I can imagine. We are rather similar in that regard too. x'D
Awww I just love that family, thanks for pointing out that MS was done with the chap
Why would it be weird? In that world emotions can trigger everything, or more like it's a pretty common thing in manga an and anime in general xD Honestly I wouldn't really bother with the technological stuff, it's just there to give us a nice and funny family story
Yeah I know but the byakugan was never really said to be emotion-driven.
True, it's a nice story and we're probably not supposed to look too deep into it.
actually, back when we had the argument, there were two points. The first was whether what Solomon did was good or evil, second was that Solomon messed up everything because if he hadn't taken Illah's power, things would have returned to normal. For the first point, it's more of a personal opinion thing and we agreed to disagree. The second though, you said Solomon ruined everything due to his arrogance and all because Illah would have recovered and things would have returned to normal. However, recent events have shown that wouldn't have happened. Remember that it was David who weakened and stole Illah's power in the first place. Mother dragon even mentions that point again. Solomon wouldn't have even been able to get to Illah if David hadn't already weakened him. I think that makes it fairly obvious that David would have still overcome Illah regardless. Heck, it was even the power David had stolen from Illah that Solomon took. Basically, Solomon managed to take power that David would have taken regardless. I'm just saying that you were blaming everything on Solomon and now we find that David still took over Illah despite Solomon's efforts.
This is one of my post(can't post everyone of them,using my phone right now);
Sure he didn't want to become king but he became king.Earned to become god ? How so ?
No It doesn't give him any right to take such decisions.He was king,kings can take decisions by themselves but king should of wait a second and think before kill god lol (which he didn't even wait a minute,god sake)
He didn't solve destiny and he also ruined everything:
He sealed the souls of people who lived during the illah's era and they are doom to suffer eternity because of him.
He was naive as hell,how can someone expect to bring equality by changing ruhk ? And if al-thamen didn't revolt,things would be better ?
He took magicians power,their life spans.Magicians got weak,so weak that their borgs can be breaked by damn swords and spears.When other species learned this,what will happen ? And because of his action people falling into depravity and live their life's and after lifes in misery
No matter if he had good intentions or not,he fucked up big time.
I was okey with him until he killed illah and change everything(which brings nothing good).He literally crossed that line.
And we discussed about was al-thamen right or wrong,can illah heal/repear itself if solomon didn't sealed him...
Okey firstly I don't think he is arrogant,he had strong sense of equality because of david's actions and good intention too.One can't deny these.
Now,was his decision right ? or should he take that decision like that ?
Okey,IMO his decision was wrong because it was really something huge,he needed information about what will happen if he take place of god.As you can see now there is something ''falling'' because of his action.Now we don't agree about this topic too.IIRC you said that al-thamen created the depravity but this is not completely true.Al-thamen find a way to turn white ruhk into black one BECAUSE there is two god after solomon's action.In illah's era people couldn't fall because there is no other way to follow.
And side note;in the new world people fell,started wars,killed each other and enslaved each other even without al-thamen.So al-thamen is not the devil of world,humans are their own devils.
Secondly,he intended to destroy fate which this is the main reason for him to became god but as you can see destiny didn't change either.Look at ithnan and aladdin's dialog where aladdin explain ''fate'',it is the exact same description of illah's way of ''fate''.And solomon didn't want aladdin to tell the story of alma torran because learning about fate might cause some people to defy it(which that was what happen to him).
My point is seems like fate is necessary and solomon understand it after he sealed illah.So this is kinda make thing pointless for his decision of killing god...
Okey and this is the part that makes me hate him lol
In illah's era all the ruhk of dead people went to illah.When solomon used that magic and sealed illah,he ripped the souls from dead livings ruhk and shared it with livings and sealed them with illah.
This was actually a theory until hakuryuu used belial against alibaba.As you can see belial's power is lesser version of solomon's killing god magic(lol couldn't find better name),hakuryuu ripped alibaba's soul and sealed it in another dimension.So solomon did seal all those souls with illah.
I don't find ANY part that can be defensible in this action,this is completely wrong,end of the story.I would be fine if he didn't do such a thing and al-thamen would be find too(at least some parts of it)
Now we come to al-thamen's part;
There are 4 reasons for them to riot
1-Religious reason(where arba go berserk )
2-Soul sealing thing(falan and wahid lead this)
3-Destiny defying(ithnan lead this)
4-Riot for their magic(pretty much every magician riot for this)
Let's talk about these things
1-Alma torran people were religious because illah came and save them so when solomon killed god,it is normal for some parts to riot against it
2-As I said before this is just wrong,no one can defend this for any reason,sorry
3-Illah's destiny was gone but there is a new flow now,solomon's flow(greate white flow) and people just didn't want to contoled by any fate
I want to talk about 4th reason
4-There was a reason for humans to had strong magic you know;
They were weakest kind,they were little and prey to others so illah gave them strong version of magic so they can protect themselves against others.When solomon took their power,they became so powerless against others.In new world magicians can't defend themselves against arrows and spears,how can they defend themselves against building size monsters ? and we don't know if those monsters can use magic or not(in new world they can).
Don't come up with they wont beause eveything was good because that doens't work after 100-200 years later.(not to mention they will fight for resources and guess who can't protect themselves agains those monsters...)
He didn't just took their power but also their life span,they can live more than 100 or 200 years now 0-100...Really who is he to do that ?
After all this I cannot find al-thamen completely wrong and I cannot find solomon completely good too.
But then there is david too lol,all of this was his plan after all so actually I can't find anyone wrong because of this to be honest.
Soooo kev sorry for late reply and sorry if I made any typo
Wow I loved that second gaiden chapter... Himawari is so damn adorable.
Nah but it is interesting. Though I do wonder when we will get actual plot.
I wasn't talking about the show itself. Just about the scenes in the ED. Watching Goku grow and stuff. :') The Anime itself it pretty awful... Worst animation quality I've seen in a while. *shivers*
What? No! Geez... x'D
I can imagine. We are rather similar in that regard too. x'D
Yeah I know but the byakugan was never really said to be emotion-driven.
True, it's a nice story and we're probably not supposed to look too deep into it.
Well they never really explained how people awake to the Byakugan, so anger might as well be one of the triggers.
It's just a piece to complement the movie
And it was only a name invented by the anime staff, there never was anything like "Z" in the manga haha I have a new name for the new anime: Dragonball Garbage~
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Geez... x'D
Himawari is a cute little devil~
