Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Bigivelfhq]

One piece violates the eights aspects detailed above. BLack Clover is original while One Piece isnt.

What have the eights aspects that you wrote before have to do with it being good or not? Are you also saying that One Piece isn't good?

 

[phiophill]

After reading all of Horikoshi's comments in the volumes and the consistent good quality of Hero Academy so far I think he got some very good editors this time around. It also helps that superheroes are a passion of his.

 

[SharkBait]

What have the eights aspects that you wrote before have to do with it being good or not? Are you also saying that One Piece isn't good?

One piece has only been good during alabasta and the goa kingdom arcs.

 

[Soul Soul Brigade]

Have you read Chapter 60 yet? My Hero Academia is my obsession right now because holy crap every chapter just keeps getting better!

 

[phiophill]

Yes It was great. Its still pretty unbelivable when you compare MHA to his two previous works. The jump is quality is insane.

 

[WyldViolet]

People can defend Black Clover as much as they want, I'm not going to waste my time shouting logic to people who won't listen anymore.
Calling it "original" however is simply the opposite of the truth.
Other than Sharkbait, I've never seen even a single hardcore defender of it even try and argue for its originality and most all will agree that it is generic to a fault but that they still might somehow get some semblance of enjoyment from it.
It's probably the most unoriginal series I've ever read in my life from any form of entertainment medium.

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It's incredible honestly.
It makes me happy that one of the best battle series in Jump's history (Hero) and one of the best sports series in Jump's history (Hinomaru Sumo) are running at the same time.

 

[101nemesis]

Kinda disappointed that Ohba and Obata are going over to SQ since now it will be a monthly release.

 

[KageTrigger]

I will never argue for Black Clover's originality, because it doesn't possess any. I understand completely why the people who don't like Black Clover just don't and I won't try to change their minds or call it a "Tolkien" or "literary masterpiece" because it's far from it. Just like how I hope they understand that no matter how many times they repeat themselves week after week about how much they dislike it, that it's not going to change how the ones who truly like it feel, or better yet it's popularity in Japan. Like everyone who's tired of trying to shout logic about why the series is terrible, and how everyone should share that opinion. I'm tired of people acting like you have to be 9 years old, have bad taste, or be simpleminded to like the series.

I like a lot of manga and anime old or new, popular or not popular. I love original, sophisticated and/or philosophical stories, in any form of entertainment including manga. But one thing I decided on ever since I was 6 or 7 years old watching anime, is I don't care what others think about my taste in anime or manga. When it comes to books, movies, and television, I listen or read critics thoughts and reviews. But I still don't let that decide if I like something or not, I let my opinion do that.

I've constantly had to defend my love and interest in anime and manga, from family, friends, and even strangers. It's hard enough liking anime and manga while being looked at as "childish" "weird" and "stupid" for doing so. Then even among fellow anime and manga fans in various online communities, have to have a hard time liking a series that a majority or minority, hate or dislike.

I usually keep my opinions to myself, even when I'm in a place where I can freely share them such as this forum, but when I do share my opinions I make sure that people know it's just that, my opinion. I'm afraid to even express my liking of certain series sometimes (e.g., Naruto, Bleach, and Black Clover) around forums like this, because I always get met with sly or direct comments on why or how said series is bad. Then I end up having to argue why I like something some others don't.

I personally like my taste in series, with World Trigger, Hinomaru Zumo, Boku no Hero Academia, One Piece, Hunter x Hunter, and Black Clover, as Weekly Shonen Jump examples. I don't think I have bad taste, am 9 years old, simpleminded, or I illogical for liking a generic series like BC, because it doesn't mean that's all I like. Black Clover is popular in Japan, it's either gonna rise or fall, either way just deal with it. Nothing we say here will affect it's popularity there.

 

[Stark700]

I usually keep my opinions to myself, even when I'm in a place where I can freely share them such as this forum, but when I do share my opinions I make sure that people know it's just that, my opinion. I'm afraid to even express my liking of certain series sometimes (e.g., Naruto, Bleach, and Black Clover) around forums like this, because I always get met with sly or direct comments on why or how said series is bad. Then I end up having to argue why I like something some others don't.

Welcome to the internet. All fandoms have their problems.

 

[KageTrigger]

Welcome to the internet. All fandoms have their problems.

Thank you though I'm not new to the internet, just tired of it's crap sometimes. Yes all fandoms have there problems, I know that for sure because I am part of many different kinds of fandoms. Whether it's comics, tv shows, movies, books, games, or manga, I've seen so many problems in each of those fandoms. I also know that letting out how frustrated these fandoms make me sometimes gets me nowhere. But what the hell, thought I'd go for it anyway.

Now I brace myself, for winter is coming.

 

[Mammo]

Kinda disappointed that Ohba and Obata are going over to SQ since now it will be a monthly release.

i'm not, the only manga i care about in sq is Gakumon, this new series will give me a new reason to follow that magazine

Welcome to the internet. All fandoms have their problems.

give this man a cookie

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Genjuui Toteku one of the GFC entries was scanlated to Spanish, if anyone can read Spanish & is interested in reading it here you go


also, i found this image floating in my twitter feed, my Japanese sucks, but i assume it say something about AssClass getting a spinoff

 

[Soul Soul Brigade]

Yeah, I think the Ass Class spin-off is going to be by the guy who did that girl Edison manga a while back.

Black Clover's latest chapter was pretty decent. It's starting to show more focus on class based discrimination. It's slowly getting better. I like that it's finally discovering itself in terms of theme and message.

 

[Bengije]

People can defend Black Clover as much as they want, I'm not going to waste my time shouting logic to people who won't listen anymore.
Calling it "original" however is simply the opposite of the truth.
Other than Sharkbait, I've never seen even a single hardcore defender of it even try and argue for its originality and most all will agree that it is generic to a fault but that they still might somehow get some semblance of enjoyment from it.
It's probably the most unoriginal series I've ever read in my life from any form of entertainment medium.

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It's incredible honestly.
It makes me happy that one of the best battle series in Jump's history (Hero) and one of the best sports series in Jump's history (Hinomaru Sumo) are running at the same time.

The problem is when people have double standards, most of other series can do it but not BC. Even though BNHA is my favorite series on Jump right now(with SNS) the start felt much more similar to Naruto than BC. BNHA is modelled itself on it's own thing and I can feel BC doing the same right now(though I'm not liking it as I did in the first chapters). Jump's competitive structure make the series too formulaic in the first chapters, so we see a lot of series doing the same thing.

 

[xAsum0x]

The problem is when people have double standards, most of other series can do it but not BC. Even though BNHA is my favorite series on Jump right now(with SNS) the start felt much more similar to Naruto than BC. BNHA is modelled itself on it's own thing and I can feel BC doing the same right now(though I'm not liking it as I did in the first chapters). Jump's competitive structure make the series too formulaic in the first chapters, so we see a lot of series doing the same thing.

I disagree lol. Black Clovers first chapter was way more similar to Naruto. Even the first couple of pages are the same

 

[chrisbj]

Do you think that if Brave Souls performs well, the Bleach anime will go into production again?.....

 

[WyldViolet]

Do you think that if Brave Souls performs well, the Bleach anime will go into production again?.....

No.

 

[Mammo]

Yeah, I think the Ass Class spin-off is going to be by the guy who did that girl Edison manga a while back.

it's definitely a demotion for him, but i'm ok with it

Edison was horrendous

 

[Soul Soul Brigade]

Hmm, interesting. Legend of the Galactic Hero Manga starts in Young Jump by Ryu Fujisaki, whose previous works include Shiki, WaqWaq, Hoshin Engi

 

[conankudo]

Hmm, interesting. Legend of the Galactic Hero Manga starts in Young Jump by Ryu Fujisaki, whose previous works include Shiki, WaqWaq, Hoshin Engi

Even though viz licenced the novels I doubt it that english Shonen Jump has the balls to pick up the manga on a weekly basis

 

[Mammo]

what was the last weekly manga viz actually picked up?

BLack clover right? & that was like 30 weeks ago