Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Felcis]

So it is only possible to have fun with comedy manga? I sincerely disagree that WT has this "serious" tone you talk about. Most of the time what worries those kids is just rising the rankings. And that's the problem. WT lacks real threat.

I would disagree on WT lacking real threats, at least outside of the "Rank War"-tournaments.
The threats in the series feel way more real to me than in most mangas of the genre, because the antagonists are well written and come of as smart&competent. Also, because fights usually aren't deadly, the end-result of them is much more open than in series with the usual "potentially deadly but not really"-combat, which results in actual tension towards the potential results of the fight. Which drives home the point that battles aren't primarily about killing&survival for their own sake but about achieving or preventing objectives.

As for the humor: WT is more subtle in that regard and needs more immersion into the characters compared to the over-the-top slapstick of many other series, but at times it's hilarious. But of course, that's up to personal taste.

 

[stellvia]

World Trigger is doing that well? I thought for the longest time it was languishing on the cancellation line and it's always the butt of jokes by people? I was surprised it even got an anime, but it's still going so I guess they wouldn't throw good money after bad if it wasn't worthwhile.

 

[SharkBait]

Naruto countdown site launched,...http://www.shonenjump.com/next_generation/

I'm expecting a boruto anime to be announced at Jump Festa....or it could be a manga

Naruto Pt 3 please. I dont know what Id do without more Naruto in life, its part of our DNA. Thank you Shueisha.

 

[Mammo]

if the announcement is a boruto anime, i won't watch it, cuz why????????????

if the announcement is a new manga written by someone who isn't Kishi, i might give it a try

 

[BobLeNolife]

There's no "Science Fiction" manga actually published in the WSJ for the moment. If anything, World Trigger is a "science fantasy" manga. It's not because they try to explain the characters's super-power with SCIENCE that it's a science fiction manga.

But in the end, who care what genre a manga belong. They are all shonen, so it's normal they all use the same "teenagers doing grown ups things" trope.

 

[Stark700]

There's no "Science Fiction" manga actually published in the WSJ for the moment. If anything, World Trigger is a "science fantasy" manga. It's not because they try to explain the characters's super-power with SCIENCE that it's a science fiction manga.

But in the end, who care what genre a manga belong. They are all shonen, so it's normal they all use the same "teenagers doing grown ups things" trope.

That goes back to exactly what Soul Soul Brigade said, about the fact that it being a shonen is what holds the series back.

World Trigger just feels like a seinen with shonen characters. That, to me, is it's biggest flaw.

 

[BobLeNolife]

That goes back to exactly what Soul Soul Brigade said, about the fact that it being a shonen is what holds the series back.

I don't say it's a flaw or anything. I just wanted to highlight thaht World Trigger was not exactly a Science Fiction manga. Nothing else.

 

[ShenGao]

 

[Pietro]

What has got Daisuke Hashiara ?

 

[conankudo]

Spoiler: #1/2016

There will be an annoucnement for Kochikame in the upcoming issue

 

[susanoo13]

So by the preview image, Ishiyama Ryou's oneshot was well recieved as it's getting a new version in the next issue, and quite fast at that.

 

[SharkBait]

Spoiler: #1/2016

There will be an annoucnement for Kochikame in the upcoming issue

Anime revival Osomatsu san style?

 

[Soul Soul Brigade]

Kochikame might be ending? That guy is like 70 something, right?

 

[Mawara]

Black Clover taking that LN route and promoting it's female cast with this weeks color page.
Also, am I the only one who ships Asta X Mimosa? Maybe it's just my dislike of tsunderes.

Here I agree with you. Although, I really like Noelle, Mimosa seems more fitting for Asta.
Maybe it's because Mimosa resembles Hinata from Naruto. We saw which couples became canon in Naruto after all.
Edit: Btw, why does Noelle wear such a short skirt? I may be a lesbian, but this looks indecent.

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I would disagree on WT lacking real threats, at least outside of the "Rank War"-tournaments.
The threats in the series feel way more real to me than in most mangas of the genre, because the antagonists are well written and come of as smart&competent. Also, because fights usually aren't deadly, the end-result of them is much more open than in series with the usual "potentially deadly but not really"-combat, which results in actual tension towards the potential results of the fight. Which drives home the point that battles aren't primarily about killing&survival for their own sake but about achieving or preventing objectives.

As for the humor: WT is more subtle in that regard and needs more immersion into the characters compared to the over-the-top slapstick of many other series, but at times it's hilarious. But of course, that's up to personal taste.

Dont forget, the child soldier-topic was also a bad thing in Naruto. Yeah, at the beginning, being a Ninja was criticized too!
At the Zabuza-arc, it was mentioned, how cruel it was to teach children to show no emotions & to kill people.
But Kishimoto dropped that later, and being a child soldier, errrr, a Ninja was the BEST THING EVER!

 

[DestyNova4th]

Kochikame might be ending? That guy is like 70 something, right?

63 years old on December 11, a few days after the issue published. Maybe he retires.

 

[Bigivelfhq]

Anime revival Osomatsu san style?

The good in that is that Anime 7 Block may return. Anime 7 is the from 7 p.m-8 p.m sunday block that aired 2 anime, Kochikame at 7-7.30 and right next to it One Piece 7.30-8.00. Those were the good times where Kochikame and One Piece anime aired right next to each other at prime time.

The studio that made Kochikame, Studio Gallop, for a good time it only investing in 1 anime, Yu-Gi-Oh, so it could be a good anime return.

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Do we have the studio that will animate Isobe Isobee Monogatari, yet?

 

[conankudo]

The current editor of Black Clover is also in charge of the Oba and Obata team and Toriyama. He is the SaiJack guy

 

[James Rye]

What has got Daisuke Hashiara ?

Probably something with his neck. That seems to be not curable after all.

 

[Lehran]

So, now that its Jump Start run ended, what do you think about Buddy Strike so far? Do you people believe it has what it takes to become an established series?

 

[De La Croissant]

Kochikame might be ending? That guy is like 70 something, right?

Maybe in the volume 200.

Dont forget, the child soldier-topic was also a bad thing in Naruto. Yeah, at the beginning, being a Ninja was criticized too!
At the Zabuza-arc, it was mentioned, how cruel it was to teach children to show no emotions & to kill people.
But Kishimoto dropped that later, and being a child soldier, errrr, a Ninja was the BEST THING EVER!

And no one thinks that Naruto was "serious" because of that, right? Btw, in the first arcs, Zabuza was a real threat. Orochimaru too. The kids went through several moments of fear. I miss this "fear" in WT.

The current editor of Black Clover is also in charge of the Oba and Obata team and Toriyama. He is the SaiJack guy

And MHA and Mononofu have the same editor.