Games Mafia Game 47 - Gantz: Survival of the Fittest - END GAME

[Copy Panda]

Actually want Holt says sounds solid. If I read Hardy's post about saying ''ust and Gary'' votekilled him for being ''fishy''/'gut feelings''. While reading Ust's early pos that he first votekilled ''x01'' for the reasons he just said and than all of the sudden said ''You know what, going for my gut feelings''. It's day three, why would you votekill someone on DAY 3 with gut feeling? That is the most baseless reason I've read for today.

If you'd participate more you'll find out that Holt might have provided us with our first actual clue, something that goes beyond 'lol you're being strange/suspicious/fishy/not the way I know you at other places/the same as you were in that one game you were mafia a while back with different people in a different situation/etc'

And if I think about it his ''mind'' questions or wtv. towards Lawlett about the whole detective thing that he was curious what is role was and than saying afer that ''it's just a trap'' to check how Lawlett would response to him was already weird, imho. But than again it could also be a lovely made convo to fool with us. Or maybe it's just me. xd

Yeah, Lawl was suspecting him, then he responds with a vague trap, Lawl gives basically a non-answer, and he's like 'well I trust you know, we fam'

Almost forgot about that, yeah.

But than again what if this is just a wonderful trap of Holt telling this right now to believe Ust is mafia, while he might be an townie and than yay another townie is gone and mafia will than prolly have more chance to win. Could also be possible, because I do see Holt planning this as well. He is a good player, imo (yeah, tfw complimenting Holt uhgggggggg......) but oh well you never know. Uhg, I'm just too tired, can't really think clear atm, my apologize.

At least we kill another mafia

@TSPanda

I had the same impression while reading his posts. He does seem to be quite knowledgeable about things we're in the dark about. I've suspected him since day 1 since he so eagerly jumped on Hill's wagon.

Yeah, but unlike Kat and Goi for example, he jumped right off again, and rather than participating in developing the townie case, he's been either defending himself or accusing others

I did it cause of odds, I agree I wouldn't expect him to do something like that. But 2 votes per day, so yeah.

I HOPE THAT DOESN'T OVERSHADOW THE MISHO'S PM THING @.@ I WANT MA ANSWA LATA

tfw we finally have multiple viable leads after 2 days

 

[Riku]

Holt doesn't make sense. Why wait saying he is "the real bf". Why all the arrogant "well I thought people would get me, but I guess you are dumb". It is all rhetorics weaponry to make people agree in him feel smart. Nothing of Holts "logic" Holds. Just read his posts. It's like count in 1, 2, 3, potato.

Considering remaining time, I think this is the day town lost. I have too many vote

 

[Erinyes]

Well, so Ust lied, so bad, anyway, need to hear what he has to say before possibly changing my vote. But still G01 is as suspicious if not more.

 

[Rein Avara]

I'm sure I've already clarified I'm not a Mafia

 

[Farfalla]

Holt doesn't make sense. Why wait saying he is "the real bf". Why all the arrogant "well I thought people would get me, but I guess you are dumb". It is all rhetorics weaponry to make people agree in him feel smart. Nothing of Holts "logic" Holds. Just read his posts. It's like count in 1, 2, 3, potato.

Considering remaining time, I think this is the day town lost. I have too many vote

Well... atking him instead of defending your way of revealing doesn't make me change my head so far either D:
And again, those dramatic sentences u.u... People love it.

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I'm sure I've already clarified I'm not a Mafia

Can you move on from yourself and post about the rest of the people in the game and what's happening? '-' Tyvm

 

[GrySun]

I do not like this situation

 

[Riku]

It's still a pretty dangerous risk. It's not like anyone was really hampering on him to reveal his role. Also, while claim BP? He has no real way of knowing there isn't a strongman so he still put himself in danger assuming he had a useful role..

Actually yes, I was pressured into giving more hints by many people. Naomi, Farf, Hardy, lawly. And as someone pointed out, I didn't reveal my role, it was deduced from the pile of hints.

 

[Purity of Magi]

If you'd participate more you'll find out that Holt might have provided us with our first actual clue, something that goes beyond 'lol you're being strange/suspicious/fishy/not the way I know you at other places/the same as you were in that one game you were mafia a while back with different people in a different situation/etc'

rofl at your first sentence. Says Panda who also didn't participate much in the beginning. Anyway, telling someone that barely participate or not isn't even a valid reason. At least, I'm trying to figure things out but than again you prolly didn't read my posts, anyway. And just to clearivy I already mentioned that I'm busy, but I'm trying my best to contribute in the game.

And I was talking about Ust idiot. That he said that in his early posts.

 

[Holt]

Holt doesn't make sense. Why wait saying he is "the real bf". Why all the arrogant "well I thought people would get me, but I guess you are dumb". It is all rhetorics weaponry to make people agree in him feel smart. Nothing of Holts "logic" Holds. Just read his posts. It's like count in 1, 2, 3, potato.

Considering remaining time, I think this is the day town lost. I have too many vote

Why not actually defend your point instead of blatantly attacking me? . I already explained why I posted that way. I considered that coming out straight as BP was danagerou because there could be a strongman. I tried to make it so that others would get it but not entirely everybody. It was a shot at still keeping my role hidden

 

[Naomi]

Actually yes, I was pressured into giving more hints by many people. Naomi, Farf, Hardy, lawly. And as someone pointed out, I didn't reveal my role, it was deduced from the pile of hints.

Are you saying you're not bulletproof?

 

[GrySun]

I tried to make it so that others would get it but not entirely everybody. It was a shot at still keeping my role hidden

To be fair you gave us like no time to think about it. Just a few mins later you instantly reveal your role, instead of giving us more tipps.

 

[Riku]

Well... atking him instead of defending your way of revealing doesn't make me change my head so far either D:
And again, those dramatic sentences u.u... People love it.

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Can you move on from yourself and post about the rest of the people in the game and what's happening? '-' Tyvm

I'm not vote killing him. Just pointin out his logic is no logic. I think there are two bulletproofs, there are 2 mafias and a third party after all.

 

[Aonori]

@TSPanda

I had the same impression while reading his posts. He does seem to be quite knowledgeable about things we're in the dark about. I've suspected him since day 1 since he so eagerly jumped on Hill's wagon.

All I had to do was search james old posts and post my findings, it's easy to expose a mafia who wasnt even suspected though, he could have arranged some strategy with you when he votekilled you for hints but I will assume for now that both of didnt.

 

[Holt]

To be fair you gave us like no time to think about it. Just a few mins later you instantly reveal your role, instead of giving us more tipps.

Because 3 people, including you already said I was being too vague.

 

[Copy Panda]

Never said searching for both wasnt important but assuming james wanted to lynch inocent townies when we hadnt any suspicions on him makes sense, for him to votekill xi0 and naomi and yes they can still be involved in the 3rd boss group but the problem here is we lacking intel on that group, thus why it's risky to vote for naomi and xi0 right now.

... This all is a bit of a leap, don't you think? You place an awful lot of trust in James. If Uste turns out to be mafia, I'm assuming that you and Erin are mafia also.

Also, james in the post were he votekilled holt was aiming to obtain hints on his role, I dont know if it's a mafia strategy or not but if holt is inocent he just revealed his role to the mafias at the expense of exposing Ustegius I think I will vote for him but still need some thought into it.

Unlikely, as there's no reason to kill Holt if Uste does die. If Uste turns out to be mafia, I'm guessing Holt will be safe from the town for a while. There is no reason to waste resources on taking revenge. This is fairly obvious, and you're trying to cast shade at Holt for bringing up the Uste/Erin connection. Spicy.

And so anonymous strikes again. Gnut died yesterday so the presents don't stop working when santa dies, if it really is a present and not a 2nd noble.

Valuable information, since (assuming that) Santa gave out two gifts, and one of them is anon posting (i.e. noble power or something), that would mean someone else also has a second power. Since that person hasn't come forward yet, that person could be mafia (the anon poster should have received a PM of sorts that he received a gift, so the second power holder is in fact aware that he has that power).

If a stealing ability targets a power holder who also has a role power, does the thief get both?

 

[Farfalla]

Ok, lemme share a burden info with you guys and see what happens '-'

I can say for sure that if Ustie is a killer, he's not alone or that a doctor killed someone last night.

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To be fair you gave us like no time to think about it. Just a few mins later you instantly reveal your role, instead of giving us more tipps.

I don't think that's fair xD He posted like 3 or 4 times about it before just saying it.

 

[Rein Avara]

Well... atking him instead of defending your way of revealing doesn't make me change my head so far either D:
And again, those dramatic sentences u.u... People love it.

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Can you move on from yourself and post about the rest of the people in the game and what's happening? '-' Tyvm

Actually, I was just responding to what panda was saying about people who could possibly be mafias, my name was in there so I was just clarifying before people started asking more questions!

 

[Holt]

I'm not vote killing him. Just pointin out his logic is no logic. I think there are two bulletproofs, there are 2 mafias and a third party after all.

Possibility yes, but still doesn't explain your play imo. Even if you were asked for hints and someone actually correctly guessed yours, you don't have to explicitly state it.
Let's consider you're actually a BP, didn't you invalidate your role by stating it?

 

[Copy Panda]

Are they strong feelings or just suspicions?

I'd like to know if someone has strong feelings or even something akin to evidence.

Particularly strong feelings about Uste and Ao. Others are like, more 'probably' than 'maybe'

 

[Farfalla]

Imo we should be super careful and not to lock our votes on Ustie and wait for Misho's answer so we could maybe work on another scenario in case we have 2 BPs just like we seem to have 2 nobles...