Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Arjuna]

I believe from Ishgar only Natsu and maybe Gildarts (I say maybe due to hype but no feats as of yet) are stronger than Serena.

Both Natsu and laxus has shown more feats than what God Serena.Jellal may also be higher by hype.

 

[BluePegasus]

God Serena outclasses Natsu in so many ways. Don't get why this is so hard to understand lol. It's like Dragon King vs. Dragon Child.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

Both Natsu and laxus has shown more feats than what God Serena.Jellal may also be higher by hype.

Serena showed to me impressive feats. He defeated 4 wizard saints at once who were going all out and still they absolutely stood no chance ( Serena even didn't have to use much power to take them down with ease)!!! In addition, he always has been the strongest one of the wizard saints since the introduction of their ranking system.
Being one-shotted by Acnologia is no shame because he is the strongest character we have seen in fairy tail universe so far. Even Zeref, who I thought was his equal when they have been introduced is much weaker than him ( we can consider that Acnologia in his human form is also superior to Zeref) and he needs infinite magic to be able to take him down!
I agree that Natsu in DF could beat Serena but altough Laxus is my favourite character I doubt that he would win in a 1vs1. The reason is, I do not believe that Laxus could defeat the 4 ws at once as easy as Serena did ( it is even unsure if he could win against them)

 

[BluePegasus]

Serena showed to me impressive feats. He defeated 4 wizard saints at once who were going all out and still they absolutely stood no chance ( Serena even didn't have to use much power to take them down with ease)!!! In addition, he always has been the strongest one of the wizard saints since the introduction of their ranking system.
Being one-shotted by Acnologia is no shame because he is the strongest character we have seen in fairy tail universe so far. Even Zeref, who I thought was his equal when they have been introduced is much weaker than him ( we can consider that Acnologia in his human form is also superior to Zeref) and he needs infinite magic to be able to take him down!
I agree that Natsu in DF could beat Serena but altough Laxus is my favourite character I doubt that he would win in a 1vs1. The reason is, I do not believe that Laxus could defeat the 4 ws at once as easy as Serena did ( it is even unsure if he could win against them)

I agree with you but I still don't think Natsu would be able to defeat God Serena even with DF.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

I agree with you but I still don't think Natsu would be able to defeat God Serena even with DF.

That's ok for me but think about this. DF is the biggest power up in fairytail. Natsu in DF was equal to Jellal in ToH-arc and to Zero in OS-arc who were so many levels above base natsu back then. The only power ups that are greater than DF so far are plot armor and the power of friendship/feelings ( and they are bs xD)

 

[Aonori]

That's ok for me but think about this. DF is the biggest power up in fairytail. Natsu in DF was equal to Jellal in ToH-arc and to Zero in OS-arc who were so many levels above base natsu back then. The only power ups that are greater than DF so far are plot armor and the power of friendship/feelings ( and they are bs xD)

I´ve seen bigger power-ups in FT than that, 2nd Origin alone allowed Erza to get a god troll armor that is 100% imune to all magic, I´d love to see DF mode doing better than that (and lets not Forget a DFed Natsu couldnt defeat Mard Geer or Immortals like Zeref without needing in the latter, a bigger asspull to overpower and get the way to kill him, I feel that the whole reason why DF is even considered so big of a power up is cuz, DraS get more importance than Demon and God slayers, due to Acnologia, etc... It´s just plot convinience if you ask me and we all could see in the GmG how much DF benefitted non FT members).

If Fairy tail had God slayers or Devil slayers with higher plot relevance than Natsu, DF wouldnt be above the other force modes from the other slayers.

Aside from that, 2nd Origin, 3rd Origin, Dragon slayers getting extra permanent elements by eating another DS element, or eating other ethernano based particle things to get power-ups (how Natsu got DF firsthand) and Igneel Tattoo are the biggest power-ups in this manga so far, those are just too broken for my taste.

 

[kemor]

We don't even know full extent of Natsu's power. All we know right now is that he was capable to leave Zeref half-dead until he decided to heal his wounds. Right now I am quite sure Natsu is not that far behind Laxus, he's definitely above Erza. Remember that we haven't seen the full potential of Enryuuo mode, and he still hasn't used Raienryuu mode. Besides, we all know when he'll start losing END will emerge and shit will hit the fan.

God Serena hasn't shown anything except spamming huge Dragon Slayer spells. If Natsu decided to throw Kouen's all over the place we'd get the same result in terms of destruction. Besides, an 8 element DS is broken and OP. Comparing them is meaningless - he's dead, let him rest.

My personal top 5 in FT guild would be:
1. Laxus
2. Natsu
3. Gray
4. Erza
5. Gajeel
I didn't include Gildarts since he's yet to appear in Alvarez arc.

 

[Stormsfury]

Natsu fires a spell at God Serena....... there are three possible scenario's that play out here.
1. God Serena consumes the flames using Purgatory dragon magic.
2. God Serena puts the flames out using Neptune dragon magic.
3. God Serena moves through the attack unaffected because of Purgatory dragon magic and starts a counter-attack.
The fact is that God Serena's Hybrid theory is a broken ability, using actual logic and not just assumptions that people have been using for this match-up, there is literally no way that Natsu wins the fight, it was probably the reason why Hiro just had Acnologia off him instead of having someone else fight him and win because of plot convenience.
God Serena >>> Natsu

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Natsu fires a spell at God Serena....... there are two possible scenario's that play out here.
1. God Serena consumes the flames using Purgatory dragon magic.
2. God Serena puts the flames out using Neptune dragon magic.
3. God Serena moves through the attack unaffected because of Purgatory dragon magic and starts a counter-attack.
The fact is that God Serena's Hybrid theory is a broken ability, using actual logic and not just assumptions that people have been using for this match-up, there is literally no way that Natsu wins the fight, it was probably the reason why Hiro just had Acnologia off him instead of having someone else fight him and win because of plot convenience.
God Serena >>> Natsu

Lol, the funny thing about your post is that you said that there are two possible scenarios yet you ended up listing three .

All jokes aside, I would dissagree with your second scenario. I don't see Neptune dragon magic dousing flames that can evaporate an entire lake.

 

[Dragneel.Fx]

Natsu fires a spell at God Serena....... there are two possible scenario's that play out here.
1. God Serena consumes the flames using Purgatory dragon magic.
2. God Serena puts the flames out using Neptune dragon magic.
3. God Serena moves through the attack unaffected because of Purgatory dragon magic and starts a counter-attack.
The fact is that God Serena's Hybrid theory is a broken ability, using actual logic and not just assumptions that people have been using for this match-up, there is literally no way that Natsu wins the fight, it was probably the reason why Hiro just had Acnologia off him instead of having someone else fight him and win because of plot convenience.
God Serena >>> Natsu

Lightening Flame dragon mode.

 

[Stormsfury]

Lol, the funny thing about your post is that you said that there are two possible scenarios yet you ended up listing three .

All jokes aside, I would dissagree with your second scenario. I don't see Neptune dragon magic dousing flames that can evaporate an entire lake.

My bad. It's true that it could evaporate the water but there is also the scenario of Serena dispersing it with wind, he's simply got far too much versatility for Natsu to stand a chance

Lightening Flame dragon mode.

He can disperse it with wind, he can also put it out with Neptune dragon water, the only mode that we've seen able to evaporate a lake is BDKM, so if he is using LFDM then I doubt he can evaporate the water then.

 

[Arjuna]

Natsu's FDK Spells are more destructive than God Serena's.His spells seem more destructive.laxus's Nuke like Lightning Attack is also above than God Serena's Spells.

Spoiler: Purgatory Dragon's Infernal Hell

Spoiler: Flame Dragon King's Roar

Comparing those, its pretty clear that Flame Dragon King's Roar is much more impressive a spell than the Purgatory Dragon's Infernal Hell. Not only does the Roar look a lot stronger, its also a lot bigger, so it has that going for it too.

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Serena showed to me impressive feats. He defeated 4 wizard saints at once who were going all out and still they absolutely stood no chance ( Serena even didn't have to use much power to take them down with ease)!!! In addition, he always has been the strongest one of the wizard saints since the introduction of their ranking system.
Being one-shotted by Acnologia is no shame because he is the strongest character we have seen in fairy tail universe so far. Even Zeref, who I thought was his equal when they have been introduced is much weaker than him ( we can consider that Acnologia in his human form is also superior to Zeref) and he needs infinite magic to be able to take him down!
I agree that Natsu in DF could beat Serena but altough Laxus is my favourite character I doubt that he would win in a 1vs1. The reason is, I do not believe that Laxus could defeat the 4 ws at once as easy as Serena did ( it is even unsure if he could win against them)

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My bad. It's true that it could evaporate the water but there is also the scenario of Serena dispersing it with wind, he's simply got far too much versatility for Natsu to stand a chance

He can disperse it with wind, he can also put it out with Neptune dragon water, the only mode that we've seen able to evaporate a lake is BDKM, so if he is using LFDM then I doubt he can evaporate the water then.

Natsu may use the same process he used to disperse his wind like he did to Erigor.

 

[Brandish μ]

Natsu has the better attack feat than Serena. Defeating a Spriggan who wasn't really hurt with a top spell is better than 3-shotting injured wizard saints. I'll concede God Serena could have stronger techniques, but on feats I've got no doubt that FDK moves are superior to God Serena's attacks he showed. I'm of the opinion Natsu's base powers are better, but that's a matter of opinion.

If Natsu and God Serena fought I do feel the advantages God Serena has could tip the scales in his favour. It's a very interesting battle. I also believe Natsu doesn't have durability at God Serena's level.

I'd think Laxus can defeat Serena around mid to high diff.

 

[Stormsfury]

Natsu's FDK Spells are more destructive than God Serena's.His spells seem more destructive.laxus's Nuke like Lightning Attack is also above than God Serena's Spells.

Spoiler: Purgatory Dragon's Infernal Hell

Spoiler: Flame Dragon King's Roar

Comparing those, its pretty clear that Flame Dragon King's Roar is much more impressive a spell than the Purgatory Dragon's Infernal Hell. Not only does the Roar look a lot stronger, its also a lot bigger, so it has that going for it too.

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Natsu may use the same process he used to disperse his wind like he did to Erigor.

Doesn't change the fact that Serena can put out the LFDM with his Neptune dragon's water........... we've only been able to see BDKM evaporate a lake and if Natsu is using BDKM than he isn't using LFDM and if he's not using LFDM then Serena will simply consume the flames that he unleashes.......... just because you can make things go boom doesn't mean you will win every fight, offensive power is great, perhaps it's the most vital part of a fight but it doesn't mean everything.

Natsu has the better attack feat than Serena. Defeating a Spriggan who wasn't really hurt with a top spell is better than 3-shotting injured wizard saints. I'll concede God Serena could have stronger techniques, but on feats I've got no doubt that FDK moves are superior to God Serena's attacks he showed. I'm of the opinion Natsu's base powers are better, but that's a matter of opinion.

If Natsu and God Serena fought I do feel the advantages God Serena has could tip the scales in his favour. It's a very interesting battle. I also believe Natsu doesn't have durability at God Serena's level.

I'd think Laxus can defeat Serena around mid to high diff.

If you can bring proof that Natsu's flames will actually affect Serena then I will definitely give this to Natsu, as far as I'm concerned when Natsu attacks Serena, he will just consume the flames.

 

[Brandish μ]

If you can bring proof that Natsu's flames will actually affect Serena then I will definitely give this to Natsu, as far as I'm concerned when Natsu attacks Serena, he will just consume the flames.

Demolishing strike is partly physical. If they were to fight I am on the Serena side. But as for "who has the strongest attacks", Natsu has better feats with FDK and arguably better feats in base.

 

[Stormsfury]

Demolishing strike is partly physical. If they were to fight I am on the Serena side. But as for "who has the strongest attacks", Natsu has better feats with FDK and arguably better feats in base.

Definitely in FDKM no way in hell in base....... Natsu has some of the strongest attacks in the series, his offensive power is nearly unrivalled as is his destructive capacity, but he is lacking in nearly every single other department.

 

[Orgastthemage]

Natsu has the better attack feat than Serena. Defeating a Spriggan who wasn't really hurt with a top spell is better than 3-shotting injured wizard saints. I'll concede God Serena could have stronger techniques, but on feats I've got no doubt that FDK moves are superior to God Serena's attacks he showed. I'm of the opinion Natsu's base powers are better, but that's a matter of opinion.

If Natsu and God Serena fought I do feel the advantages God Serena has could tip the scales in his favour. It's a very interesting battle. I also believe Natsu doesn't have durability at God Serena's level.

I'd think Laxus can defeat Serena around mid to high diff.

I doubt it. Laxus is strong but Serena with even casual feats such as blitzing the WS in a state of over-zealous rage can compete with Laxus's best feats(nukes,red L, etc) if Serena was to combine all 8 elements into a mode or specific elements just to exploit obvious adversary weaknesses then laxus would not stand much of a chance. Face it, when it comes to Serena we only tackled the tipp of the iceberg. He was too much of a threat which is why Mashima used him as the perfect yardstick to hint at Acnilogia's true power level or to hint at basic mage power level differences among groups.

 

[Brandish μ]

Definitely in FDKM no way in hell in base....... Natsu has some of the strongest attacks in the series, his offensive power is nearly unrivalled as is his destructive capacity, but he is lacking in nearly every single other department.

A legit case can be made for Natsu base > God Serena's DS moves, in terms of both damage output and AoE. Depends on how highly you rate the wizard saints durability compared to Bluenotes, someone who was comparable to Jura pre-skip. If GoI/Jura >> Bluenote then obviously God Serena is better. If Bluenote is comparable to Jura still (let's say slightly inferior) then it starts to swing base Natsu's way.

God Serena quite literally lacks feats in every other department apart from offensive power and durability due to no screen time. I'd give the offence to Natsu, and the durability to God Serena (didn't get damaged from Wolfheim's punch). Magic power imo is in God Serena's favour.

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I doubt it. Laxus is strong but Serena with even casual feats such as blitzing the WS in a state of over-zealous rage can compete with Laxus's best feats(nukes,red L, etc) if Serena was to combine all 8 elements into a mode or specific elements just to exploit obvious adversary weaknesses then laxus would not stand much of a chance. Face it, when it comes to Serena we only tackled the tipp of the iceberg. He was too much of a threat which is why Mashima used him as the perfect yardstick to hint at Acnilogia's true power level or to hint at basic mage power level differences among groups.

I can see Laxus nuking the WS and winning in a similar fashion to God Serena. Laxus hasn't used dragon slayer spells yet either.

If God Serena can combine all 8 elements like you say it would change things dramatically. I'm not so sure we saw only a tip of the iceberg, I think there can be secret arts.

I don't see God Serena as a yard stick to indicate Acnologia's power. I see it as an indicator of how low Spriggan's are compared to Acnologia. Acnologia's true power was tested against Igneel, where a mountain sized roar was 'casual' and it did nothing to Acno, ie a roar that is many times more powerful than any of Serena's attacks.

 

[Arjuna]

Definitely in FDKM no way in hell in base....... Natsu has some of the strongest attacks in the series, his offensive power is nearly unrivalled as is his destructive capacity, but he is lacking in nearly every single other department.

But his FDK Spells in Chapter 463 was in his Base state.He may use Fire D's Magic to cancel out God Serena's Spells and physically fight to take down God Serena.

 

[Jko]

But Hiro said in Manga that Zentopia incident happened.

Everyone in their was just making a claim and not really backing it up with any evidence that he actually stated the KSS arc was canon. The only thing we know was the Z incident which was the reduce in CS mages. Nothing on if FT fought against OS.