Silver can insta freeze all of FT as well, and Tempesta's anti magic particles took out Laxus + Raijinshuu plus an entire town, featwise Torafuzar pales in comparison
Forgot about that! Maybe she couldn't control Mira cuz of her takeover (similar ability) then
Yes I found sayla's etherious form much stronger than the other demons. She only lost because she was hit in her spine. She was caught off guard while she had all her power concentrated on her handsHow was he weak? Laxus using DS magic and Natsu with LFD couldn't even finish him off and it required Gray to use his new powers to kill him
The character is Jugram Haschwalth from BleachYou like it?:3
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Her Etherious form was pretty OP though, I'd say it was stronger than the Etherious forms of all the other Gates
That, plus Elfman is ridiculously physically strong, most people seem to forget this, but on Tenroujima he was able to take out Mirajane in her Satan Soul form by knocking her out and he took out Sol from the Element Four using brute strength
You must remember that Silver was a zombie at that time and the undead are not that keen on durability.
Erza was physically and mentally drained and she had wounds from after the torture, she was injured.
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That's like saying Silver got done in by a mere iron ball, Erza got her leg broken by a rock, Franmelth was killed by a rock, and Gajeel got banged by regular steel... Yeah doesn't make sense like common objects like metal and paper can hurt people who can take punches that bust towns but that's manga logic.
Lmao Torafuza was nowhere near top 3 that fool got punked by Jackal. Top 3 9D were Silver, Kyouka and Sayla. Sayla made Erza and Minerva her B that feat alone puts her in another ballpark than Torafuza who got beat up by an iron pole...(see I can downplay attacks too). Seven Kin subordinates also banged Gajeel when he was healthy while Mira had to fought on par with Azuma the second strongest 7 Kin while already tired and was at a disadvantage as she was distracted by her sister. Yeah if you're calling Mira fodder then you're definitely calling Gajeel fodder.
Kyouka stated she could do it any timeand yes Mira has been stronger than Gajeel this entire time. He almost died by a Twin Dragon tier opponent when Mira was above the likes of Kagura and Minerva tier so yeah she been stronger than Gajeel in the GMG and Tartaros too.
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Yes Gajeel and Erza would. The both beat demon's stronger than Sayla. Saying she can control all living things is NLF, she gets scaled to the strongest person she controlled, Elfman. Gajeel>Mira and Erza>Mira.
I think 9Dg power levels were already released after their arc or am i mistaken.
Macro...
Yes she was. No she didn't lose to Azuma she was fighting on par with him until his bomb exploded. Mira was not at full power when she fought Azuma she was close to empty and she states this.
Where was it stated Mira was stronger than Erza? I don't think that has ever been said or portrayed. I think there on par with each other.Macro...
Yes she was. No she didn't lose to Azuma she was fighting on par with him until his bomb exploded. Mira was not at full power when she fought Azuma she was close to empty and she states this.
Also she was fighting on par with him and if she had her full power she would've defeated him. You're kidding about those two fodder subordinates right? You think that's even remotely comparable to fighting a 7kin let alone the second strongest?Get real those subordinates were fodder and would've been killed if they tried to fight against 7 kin. It would be like Mest/Wendy/Lily vs Axuma all over again which was a no diff by Azuma. She did give Azuma a run for his money and even comments on how he faced a powerful foe and she wasn't even full power.Also Mira took this attack with no magic and survived thisand you comparing that to Gajeel's performance against those fodders.Mira was already stated to be stronger than Erza in the GMG/Tartaros then Erza by Mashima and she rivaled Erza in power before that statement so yeah she is above Kagura/Minerva tier. Toaruza was not above Sayla who faced off against adversaries that were two tier above his lol. That dude got punked by Jackal and stalemated by Loke and you're really trying to compare him to Sayla?
It was hot topic in Japan bcs in an interview he said Mira was stronger but Erza has more determination so she could pull a win. This was talk about in the twitter discussion. https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/hiro-mashimas-twitter.2992721/page-18 @Asorx has probably more information on it.
Too bad those were the regular foot soldier and not robots.
Oh.Macro...
Yes she was. No she didn't lose to Azuma she was fighting on par with him until his bomb exploded. Mira was not at full power when she fought Azuma she was close to empty and she states this.
Also she was fighting on par with him and if she had her full power she would've defeated him. You're kidding about those two fodder subordinates right? You think that's even remotely comparable to fighting a 7kin let alone the second strongest?Get real those subordinates were fodder and would've been killed if they tried to fight against 7 kin. It would be like Mest/Wendy/Lily vs Axuma all over again which was a no diff by Azuma. She did give Azuma a run for his money and even comments on how he faced a powerful foe and she wasn't even full power.Also Mira took this attack with no magic and survived thisand you comparing that to Gajeel's performance against those fodders (He was fully healthy too lol).Mira was already stated to be stronger than Erza in the GMG/Tartaros by Mashima and she rivaled Erza in power before that statement so yeah she is above Kagura/Minerva tier. Toaruza was not above Sayla who faced off against adversaries that were two tier above his lol. That dude got punked by Jackal and stalemated by Loke and you're really trying to compare him to Sayla?
Nobody sad that they are people, not robots, soooo....
Nobody said they're robots, the robots have a different appearance.Nobody sad that they are people, not robots, soooo....
I thought this was common sense, but apparently it's not.
No, she can't. Why would she not control the entirety of Tartaros if she could?
Funny that Gajeel couldn't solo Torafusa.
She can't beat him because she isn't at max she even says this. She was never at full power and it was stated this multiple times.
He got beat the heck up and even Rusty commented on how much he got hurt which was lot and that was from Mira who wasn't even at full power.
Gajeel only won because he got help and Gajeel already started the battle at FULL POWER while Mira started her battle below fifty percent. Azuma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoldeo's Subordinates and this isn't even a comparison between battles. Mira while already tired and at a disadvantage gave the second strongest 7 kin a mid diff fight VS. A fully healthy Gajeel who needed help from Levy to beat two lackeys... you're kidding right?
When she literally states she out of magic and couldn't win bcs she was out of magic. (I'm not gonna post panel by panel so I'll just show you the animated fight.)
Hiro stated in an interview that she was stronger than Erza. Also she is easily above both Kagura/Minerva tier as she fought off against a Top 3 9D that made Erza her B while in a death state. Where did you get comparable to Mard in defense? I hope you're not using those Card games as an actual analyse of their strengths
. Torafuza was nowhere near Mard in defense they aren't in the same league in anything. Mard literally took a Unision Raid and a Dual element attack and you're really trying to say Torafuza was comparable? LOL. Yes Jackal punked Torafuza so badly that it made him look like Jackal's B
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Macro worked on Demon Minerva so it does work on demons. It only didn't work on Mira because of her Takeover ability not because she was a demon.
