A little note would ruin the plans, and make her even more worried. There's no indication that she would stay behind. Besides, Gray had several issues to deal with when it came to his body. He doesn't have time to write little notes.
Natsu responds to Lucy's feelings? He was being a douchebag when it came to Lucy's feelings and downright refused to listen to her nor have the decency to even apologize. What a farce.
Too much of a Gray fan to admit that he was stupid for leaving her like that. Leaving a note telling her he had to leave would have so endangered his plans how? A note saying I have to leave and Idk when I'll be back literary takes a second to do .
Refused to listen to her? When dafudged did this happened? Natsu doesn't have to apologize or that strength he gained would've been pointless if he thinks of it as regret (which right now that strength he gained is saving their asses).
He clearly sexually harrassed her. The onus is on you to prove that it was a comedic relief moment. Lucy was disgusted when Natsu did that to him, if Natsu did that other girls, would you fall in this flat disgrace of an excuse that it was comedic relief? Huh? To help cover up? What kind of an excuse is this? Natsu isn't this dumb to to not be aware of what is appropriate and what isn'. If he wanted to cover her up why not lend some parts of clothing to her? Lucy obviously didn't buy it, most people didn't, but people who drink the Natsu kool aid would
. Atleast apologize if you offended a girl. Jesus christ
They literally brushed it off and Happy and Virgo both made jokes about it. If you can't see that was comedic relief than that's your just blinded by hater goggles. He used his hands for comedy . She was more offended that he left without then the so "notorious" boob grab. She was was smiling at him right after he left and hugged him after the fight. Jesus Christ stop drinking your haterade and look at the facts instead of twisting them.
When he constantly berate Juvia's feelings? All he did was refuse her with a simple comedic relief moments. Make up more faulty claims why don't you. You make it seem like he was shitting on her existence and laughing at her. Endangering her health? Is Juvia a 3 year old girl where she doesn't have the means to protect herself? Juvia being sick of the rain makes no sense to begin with. Meanwhile douchebag Natsu downplays Lucy as if her opinions and sentiments dont' matter to him. Yeah let's not forget that Gray was dealing with demon particles and sought out for Porslyusica's help and had other issues to attend to. He doesn't have time to babysit and did it all for Juvia's safety. "Dick" my ass he is, especially when he originally wanted Juvia to be with him but changed mind due to convincing from ERza of Juvia's safety. Fodder Guild? Erza and Gray are not physic to be aware of the Guild's power and strenght and for safety measures they don't Juvia to be in danger.
So wasn't aware of their power yet Gray knew those chumps couldn't even beat Natsu altogether -_-. He berated her feelings and bluntly laid down his "law" instead of trying to be considerate of her feelings by his choice of words. Gray's marks were fixed easily and did nothing to his mind or body as he clearly stated. Juvia got sick in the rain bcs you know she's human. Really Natsu downplaying Lucy's sentiments and opinions yet he's the one that actually listens to her and is the one that always consoles her but he's the downplayer .
He went around grabbing Lucy by the leg when she was using a towel and casually looking at her naked, which is just as worst. How about you speak to the character in hand rather than. Does Natsu not have any balls for him to be scared from Lucy? Yep Natsu's the douchebag who doesn't have the decency to apologize and disrespects Lucy's opinions and concerns. Get it now? Natsu's not a straight up doucebag, he's also a straight up dick. Come on keep ignoring that apologizing part.
Your whole first sentence is you only further proving my point. Natsu did not grab Lucy by the leg he only stopped her from kicking him and then the towel dropped which was for further comedy. Dafudged do you mean by balls? You sure ignored that he consoles her and lifts her spirits up but yeah he sures a douchebag and dick . Natsu doesn't need to apologize as it's his decision to go off training and for the rest you're trying to impy that's comedic relief.
Nope my arguments are based from serious scenes with actual context, yours is the rain scene/comedic relief garbage and failure to not look at the context.
Nope it just you clearly can't read the tone as blinded by your hate for Natsu. You fail to discern from gags and comedy to a serious tone. The rain scene is somehow comedic relief garbage yet Juvia got seriously sick. It's astonishing how much your hatred for a character is truly keeping you from looking at the clear as day facts.
Did they know of that? Gray and Erza had information that these were Zeref worshipping cults with tremendous of strength. Juvia would follow him regardless and get herself in danger. Congrats you failed to understand the concept of their reasoning. There reasoning was well done at the time. You're looking at the dangerous issue AFTER Avatar was eposed not before. That's short-sighted thinking.
Your renowned support for Natsu is not letting you think clearly on this topic.
Gray knew they couldn't defeat Natsu even altogether so they did know their strength. They had info that they were a zeref cult nothing about them being tremendously strong. If they were so strong why didn't Jellal spearhead the investigation and why did he just leave to Gray and Erza to beat these chumps? You terrible counters and your obviously blind hatred is the reason I can't even keep discussings this topic with you.
Mashima said on Twitter back in 2013 that he likes the combination of Gray and Juvia as well, what is your point?
So when it's NaLu the comedy isn't taken seriously, but when it's Gruvia, comedy is the real deal and the meaningful moments are thrown out the window. Such double standards, I can't even.
The reason people say Gray and Juvia are ahead of Natsu and Lucy in romance is also because neither Natsu or Lucy have confirmed romantic feelings. Despite the debate on what Gray's feelings are (they're obviously mutual but whatever), one sided (Juvia) is better than zero sided. Do I think Natsu and Lucy love each other? Of course. But their relationship is still static in that department. Neither party is doing anything about it, the complete opposite of Gray and Juvia.
That was her missing him that she would rather have him break into her house again, which doesn't say much. Were Natsu and Happy playing cards with Lucy already knowing they were there, or was that after they barged in, but Lucy was still okay with it?
Or, Lucy is just a neat freak, and we know she cares about Natsu, just as she cares about Fairy Tail. Doesn't really say much.
Why would he risk endangering her? What if she followed him regardless or eventually due to "bad feeling about this?" Gray was basically against a guild on his own, and if Juvia or he messed up, the mission would have failed and likely ended with either his capture or death. Why risk it?
Also, he doesn't keep rejecting her love or letting her down. Gray encourages Juvia and say things to make her feel better or give her hope or whatnot, and it's only when she's being weird, obsessive, or scary that he "rejects" her.
I really don't see how it's the strongest pairing in FT. Far from it, though it's a pretty strong friendship.
And if she started looking for him? Hinted that he wasn't completely on the enemies' side?
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How does he, apart from cheering her up when she feels down, which he does to others? He wouldn't dig out a tree because that's not what Juvia or Erza needs or cares about, and he knows that. He made Erza happy by willing to put his life on the line for her and beat the target that made her sad. And why would he try to do something for Juvia when her happiness seems to reside with Gray?
As far as I recall, different situations.
Didn't he try to comfort Wendy quickly enough? ANd most of the other girls are different from Lucy, so it makes sense.
Why would she hate him? She can be offended and pissed off, but still be friends with him. If Natsu didn't prove to be a dumbass good guy, Lucy wouldn't even talk to him. Doubt she loves most of what Natsu does, but she tolerates it because she knows Natsu isn't a bad guy.
Natsu-Lucy's development is nowhere near Gray and Juvia's, nor does it feel like there's anything between them like there is between Jellal and Erza.
When does Natsu go out of his way to cheer up Erza or Juvia? I'm not saying Natsu won't go save his friends from death door I'm saying he doesn't go out of his way to console them like outside of battle. When Acno attack he grabbed Lucy's hand and tried to cheer her up but you didn't see him grabbing Levy's or Juvia's. Plus he doesn't ask Erza or Juvia to go do jobs with him he goes to Lucy. Natsu also doesn't do surprise visit at the other Fairy girls houses like he does with Lucy and wants to hangout with her constantly. Natsu has clear distinction on which Fairy girl he likes the most but we just don't if he's always had romantic feelings or is he going to find out he liked Lucy more than friend which we just have to wait and see.
I said older Fairy girls because Natsu's more sensitive when it comes to the young of the guild.
Mashima said on Twitter back in 2013 that he likes the combination of Gray and Juvia as well, what is your point?
So when it's NaLu the comedy isn't taken seriously, but when it's Gruvia, comedy is the real deal and the meaningful moments are thrown out the window. Such double standards, I can't even.
The reason people say Gray and Juvia are ahead of Natsu and Lucy in romance is also because neither Natsu or Lucy have confirmed romantic feelings. Despite the debate on what Gray's feelings are (they're obviously mutual but whatever), one sided (Juvia) is better than zero sided. Do I think Natsu and Lucy love each other? Of course. But their relationship is still static in that department. Neither party is doing anything about it, the complete opposite of Gray and Juvia.
Are you talking to me? If so I didn't say Gray and Juvia is the worst I said their not as well developed. Gray and Juvia relationship is also as static as NaLu as Gray has yet to confirm his real feelings for Juvia. Juvia been overly affectionate with Gray yet Gray still holds out on his (most likely newfound) feelings for her.
Natsu will say sorry i believe, Nalu is Mashima's trump card he can't burn it now he is delaying Nalu, This is Shōnen manganot romance if he focused on the shipping it will take a huge part from the manga so he is delaying it for the end of the story i don't want Nalu to be rushed anyway, their relation is getting stronger each chapter.
Natsu will say sorry i believe, Nalu is Mashima's trump card he can't burn it now he is delaying Nalu, This is Shōnen manganot romance if he focused on the shipping it will take a huge part from the manga so he is delaying it for the end of the story i don't want Nalu to be rushed anyway, their relation is getting stronger each chapter.
Obvious pairing
Natsu x Lucy. ( OTP )
Jellal x Erza.
Gray x Juvia.
Gajeel x Levy.
Elfman x Evergreen.
Cobra x kinana.
Gildarts x Right hand. Ambiguous pairing
Cana X Bacchus. (OTP v.1.1)
Laxus x Mira.
Lyon x Meredy. (OTP v.1.2 )
Mest x Wendy.
Sting x Yukino.
Rogue x Minerva.
Bickslow x Lissana.
Freed x Laxus
I'm late to the party on the rather spirited (?) Gruvia vs. Nalu debate that was going on, but was lurking with some fellow shippers last night on it. Ultimately, my conclusion to the whole argument is that I'm not sure why there is an argument.
Gruvia and Nalu are both lovely with similarities and stark contrasts which make it futile to debate which one is "better". In the of argument of what is more "developed"- I would say Gruvia has more direct romantic implications that are tied to Gray and Juvia's character arcs; however, Nalu has more on-panel interaction as they are the main characters of the series and longer-established friendship. If we want to talk about who handled their absence better: yeah, at least Natsu left a note, but Gray also had clear reasons and more remorse than Natsu did. If we are arguing about harrassment/rejections/etc: both pairings have had their moments of "questionable" ethics, but this is manga. As for maturity in relationships with Natsu vs Gray, we can't even fairly compare that since Gray is the only one of the two who has outright given his intention to go down that path. Obviously, they both care a lot for their girls: let's leave it at that for now.
In the end, arguing over these two ships is like comparing apples and oranges. They are both going to happen. They both have a ton of development in their own ways. Arguing over the "better" one serves absolutely no purpose because they are independent to each other.
Are you talking to me? If so I didn't say Gray and Juvia is the worst I said their not as well developed. Gray and Juvia relationship is also as static as NaLu as Gray has yet to confirm his real feelings for Juvia. Juvia been overly affectionate with Gray yet Gray still holds out on his (most likely newfound) feelings for her.
I was actually replaying to Decent Fury, sorry. But you don't seem to understand either.
Gray and Juvia have the most progression because they needed it. Look at how they started--a joke. No one took this pairing seriously because it wasn't. Now look at them, they are practically canon. Therefore, I disagree with you. As I've said previously, Juvia is open about her feelings and Gray is ready to address his. He hasn't confessed yet because of the danger that looms over them, so he decided to wait until after the war. This is not the case for Natsu and Lucy, who have not come out with their feelings at all. Thus, static. Not much has changed in their relationship, as they've always had a close bond.
Trust - friendship - comfort is something shared by all ft members not just Natsu and lucy. Natsu didn't plan to unite the guild, when he saw Lucy's plan he did it for her.
Why you always bring Natsu and Erza ? Erza said before Natsu and Gray are her little brothers, Naza ship sunk long time ago bruh!.. if Natsu wanted to break into erza's house he will do that, because he is her little brother so why not ? moreover Lucy always hugging Natsu, Why you think Lucy give Natsu special treament ? and vice versa. there is no doubt dude both sercretly love eachother it is so obvious like the sun.
Mashima also said he love Natsu and Lucy together, also he loved the part in the movie where Natsu hugged lucy, he also love the male mc and female mc to end up together. in his previous work Eille (Lucy) and haru(Natsu) end up together. look at the hintes he give at his twitter.
I reread the chapter, and nothing really implies he got back the guild for her. If anything, that probably motivated him to make the decision and take action sooner.
Well, Natsu won't break into Erza's house without a good reason. I think Erza's the only person that scares Natsu unless he's fired up. But Lucy obviously trusts Natsu and has known him the longest, he's the one who got her into Fairy Tail. Of course she'll give him special treatment, just as she would if anyone else was in Natsu's place.
Doesn't matter whether they secretly love each other or not, the development is barely there, and there really is no proof or evidence other than "special treatment."
When does Natsu go out of his way to cheer up Erza or Juvia? I'm not saying Natsu won't go save his friends from death door I'm saying he doesn't go out of his way to console them like outside of battle. When Acno attack he grabbed Lucy's hand and tried to cheer her up but you didn't see him grabbing Levy's or Juvia's. Plus he doesn't ask Erza or Juvia to go do jobs with him he goes to Lucy. Natsu also doesn't do surprise visit at the other Fairy girls houses like he does with Lucy and wants to hangout with her constantly. Natsu has clear distinction on which Fairy girl he likes the most but we just don't if he's always had romantic feelings or is he going to find out he liked Lucy more than friend which we just have to wait and see.
I said older Fairy girls because Natsu's more sensitive when it comes to the young of the guild.
When Jellal was the enemy? Granted, I'm not an FT otaku so I don't remember the details, but I know Natsu has gone out of his way to cheer up Erza, along with few others. And why would he need to cheer up Juvia? It seems her mood is negative only when Gray is in danger or something, otherwise she doesn't seem to be bothered. It's Lucy who's usually a panicky crybaby, and Wendy who gets worried a lot, so Natsu goes out of his way to console them the most. Plus, they're both main characters, so they obviously get more screen time where we see their interactions. The manga literally started with those two, and then Gray was introduced, and many chapters later, Juvia came into the fold.
Because Levy and Gajeel and Juvia and Gray are pairings or hinted to be future pairings. Why would Natsu do that when they have Gajeel and Gray?
And didn't he have romantic feelings for Mirajane's sister? Definitely something left unaddressed, if I recall.
Are you talking to me? If so I didn't say Gray and Juvia is the worst I said their not as well developed. Gray and Juvia relationship is also as static as NaLu as Gray has yet to confirm his real feelings for Juvia. Juvia been overly affectionate with Gray yet Gray still holds out on his (most likely newfound) feelings for her.
This was Lucy mere moments after Natsu touched her boobs back in chapter 331. Lucy is obviously not holding a grudge against Natsu for what he did.
Later on, when the battle was over, Lucy wanted to hug him and thank him.
This is pretty much the exact opposite attitude she should have if she held a grudge against Natsu or disliked him for what he did. If Lucy doesn't choose to stay mad at Natsu touching her boobs and instead decides that she would rather find comfort in hugging him, then I certainly can't be bothered to get indignant on her behalf. Now, I agree that Natsu is dense and probably less aware of Lucy's feelings than Gray is aware of Juvia's feelings. But let's also be fair, Juvia's love for Gray is a no secret. Juvia is more outspoken about her feelings than Lucy is. Still it's really no big secret that Lucy is more affectionate towards Natsu than anyone else. At some point, things just get really obvious.
Though as obvious as Natsu and Lucy are, Gray and Juvia is still ahead of the game because Juvia has confirmed her feelings for Gray. This whole NaLu vs Gruvia thing is barely even a discussion. It's just a matter of time before both comes to fruition.
Too much of a Gray fan to admit that he was stupid for leaving her like that. Leaving a note telling her he had to leave would have so endangered his plans how? A note saying I have to leave and Idk when I'll be back literary takes a second to do .
Refused to listen to her? When dafudged did this happened? Natsu doesn't have to apologize or that strength he gained would've been pointless if he thinks of it as regret (which right now that strength he gained is saving their asses).
Spying? You're kidding right?
They literally brushed it off and Happy and Virgo both made jokes about it. If you can't see that was comedic relief than that's your just blinded by hater goggles. He used his hands for comedy . She was more offended that he left without then the so "notorious" boob grab. She was was smiling at him right after he left and hugged him after the fight. Jesus Christ stop drinking your haterade and look at the facts instead of twisting them.
So wasn't aware of their power yet Gray knew those chumps couldn't even beat Natsu altogether -_-. He berated her feelings and bluntly laid down his "law" instead of trying to be considerate of her feelings by his choice of words. Gray's marks were fixed easily and did nothing to his mind or body as he clearly stated. Juvia got sick in the rain bcs you know she's human. Really Natsu downplaying Lucy's sentiments and opinions yet he's the one that actually listens to her and is the one that always consoles her but he's the downplayer .
Your whole first sentence is you only further proving my point. Natsu did not grab Lucy by the leg he only stopped her from kicking him and then the towel dropped which was for further comedy. Dafudged do you mean by balls? You sure ignored that he consoles her and lifts her spirits up but yeah he sures a douchebag and dick . Natsu doesn't need to apologize as it's his decision to go off training and for the rest you're trying to impy that's comedic relief.
Nope it just you clearly can't read the tone as blinded by your hate for Natsu. You fail to discern from gags and comedy to a serious tone. The rain scene is somehow comedic relief garbage yet Juvia got seriously sick. It's astonishing how much your hatred for a character is truly keeping you from looking at the clear as day facts.
Gray knew they couldn't defeat Natsu even altogether so they did know their strength. They had info that they were a zeref cult nothing about them being tremendously strong. If they were so strong why didn't Jellal spearhead the investigation and why did he just leave to Gray and Erza to beat these chumps? You terrible counters and your obviously blind hatred is the reason I can't even keep discussings this topic with you.
Gray acted rationally and smart with the intel and information he received, and the condition he was in at the time, with support from one of his best friends. It's not his problem that he can't tell the future and predict that Juvia would get sick. He didn't envision that Juvia would get sick.
Pot meet kettle. You're Too much of a hater and a fanboy of Natsu to admit that Gray wasn't stupid for leaving her like that especially at the time. 1) Gray left because he was corroded with dark marks, met Porlyusica and had a change in mood when he couldn't control them. It surely took a lot of time for Porlysucia to heal him, it wasn't done in just a whim considering he absorbed the strongest curse in the manga that could've killed Natsu.
Even hypocritical of you to not give Erza any of the same amount of blame or criticism/insults especially when she was the one who orchestrated Gray to leave and convincing him to do so.
Making a note that he's leaving and not coming back would simply make Juvia even more worried , Gray and Juvia spent 6 months together, compared to Natsu and Lucy getting stranded away for a year because of Natsu's lack of any carefulness to Lucy for not having the nerve to meet her just once to face and have the balls to tell her that I'm leaving on training. These two have been adventuring together for a while, it's within Lucy's right to get a live message from Natsu, not leave some scribbled note that is difficult to decipher from.
He refused and downplayed every one of Lucy's statements, and stood by his own stupid notions . When it happened, re-read the Avatar arc. He downplayed and refused to admit his wrong doings, all while disrespecting Lucy's emotions and feelings.
You mean the superstar douchebag Natsu doesn't have to apologizing for hurting someone? We got a tough guy there.
What do you think he did? He was peeking on Lucy and barged into a private room.
Brushed it off? My ass they did. Do you even know what you're typing?
Virgo WASN'T in the vicinity! to when Lucy was groped and sexually harrassed by Natsu. You're just blinded by your fanboy goggles for not understanding Lucys' own feelings and reception to being groped. You don't seem to understand how much mentally it hurts a female for some random guy to grope him out of nowhere even when they are not in a romantic relationship. You can get arrested and persecuted for that shit. So anyone can purposely grope any other character by how they move their hands because COMEDY RELIEF! fallacious logic. Natsu again doesn't even apologize. Gray, and Jellal both ACCIDENTALLY groped their respective partners, and APOLOGIZED. That's called decent manners and ethic.
Lucy smiling at Natsu is because he has a plan to stop the war and save everyone, not for what transpired. Jesus christ, way to misinterpret proper information. Stop drinking the Natsu kool-aid and Gray/Gruvia haterade, seriously.
Gray didn't know prior to leaving Juvia about their powers, until he spent 6 months assessing their powers and joining the group officially. Had he known earlier instead of trusting Erza's information, he would've let Juvia in.
"He berated her feelings and bluntly laid down his "law" instead of trying to be considerate of her feelings by his choice of words"
^Come on now, provide proof to this. Provide proof that he actually berated his feelings instead of making baseless remarks and accusations without any concrede evidence. Stating no to someone isn't in considerate when it's done for a comedic relief moment and the overall atmosphere and mood of it. Nice way to apply double standard there btw. You're simply blinded by your Natsu favouritism and applying a straw-men red herring toward another character that didn't hurt his respective partner the way Natsu did.
Good job you applied another one of your short sighted thinking methods. Gray's marks were fixed easily? Proof? Iirc, all he said it was fixed by Porlysica, and that it must took some time for it to heal. Juvia got sick of the rain because it's plot induced stupidity that's all there is to it, quit making excuses. You don't get sick of the rain, when it's your element of water from birth and especially when you're given the title: Rain Woman by your peers. Listens to her? Clearly you're imagining things when he downright refused to barge in and console Lucy's sentiments. I started to like Lucy a little when he apprehended Natsu for his hypocritical behavior.
Even if he prevented her falling from the other scene, he still got hit? Do you know why? His failure to apologize and address Lucy, but instead he casually sees her naked without even attempting to cover himself. It's the lack of respect he has for Lucy's body and feelings that makes him a douchebag and a complete insensitive dick. It's like to him, "meh I have seen Lucy naked so many times, so don't really care about her reaction". An enemy to women perfectly describes him.
Nope it just you clearly can't read the tone as blinded by your hate for Natsu. You fail to discern from gags and comedy to a serious tone. The rain scene is somehow comedic relief garbage yet Juvia got seriously sick. It's astonishing how much your hatred for a character is truly keeping you from looking at the clear as day facts. Denial is looking strong on you.
Pot meet kettle. Your love for Natsu and NaLu completely doesn't allow you to be objective on the matter on hand, and admit of Natsu's shortcomings and brainless behaviour. "You fail to discern from gags and comedy to a serious tone"<--This actually applies to you, not me. This whole argument you sprouted out completely confirms it. Never implied the rain scene was comedic relief, I implied it was plot induced stupidity/and doses of WIS, to what it is to get Juvia sick especially when it's her bloody element for crying out loud. Next thing we know, Natsu can get sick if someone tosses harmless fire at him. It's astonishing how much your love for a character can truly keep you from admitting your wrongful and non-factual statements while ignoring the actual facts.
Stop repeating after yourself and concede. Gray didn't know prior to leaving Juvia about their powers, until he spent 6 months assessing their powers and joining the group officially. Had he known earlier instead of trusting Erza's information, he would've let Juvia in. Besides, Natsu can handle him combined, Juvia can't. Natsu is far more powerful than Juvia anyway. . You think Jellal has spare time? He's involved with conquering dark guilds. Erza and Gray wanted to make an safe approach and not gain any risks which is what Erza clearly noted. Unlike Natsu, Gray shows concern , and apologizes to his respective partner with a genuine reaction and concern They also made up for it later on clearly. Not my problem that you can't seem to differentiate actual logic and proper actual judgement thrown in contrast to "terrible counters<---When this describes your response to a tee.
Mashima said on Twitter back in 2013 that he likes the combination of Gray and Juvia as well, what is your point?
So when it's NaLu the comedy isn't taken seriously, but when it's Gruvia, comedy is the real deal and the meaningful moments are thrown out the window. Such double standards, I can't even.
The reason people say Gray and Juvia are ahead of Natsu and Lucy in romance is also because neither Natsu or Lucy have confirmed romantic feelings. Despite the debate on what Gray's feelings are (they're obviously mutual but whatever), one sided (Juvia) is better than zero sided. Do I think Natsu and Lucy love each other? Of course. But their relationship is still static in that department. Neither party is doing anything about it, the complete opposite of Gray and Juvia.
Excellent post once again. Stating Gruvia is as "static" as NaLu is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in terms of pairing talk. It's completely ignoring the development received from start to finish.
If I had a nickel for every time I see a hypocritical/double standard comment by them, I'd be rich.
Gruvia is clearly more developed than NaLu, and it's not even close. Should be the nail in the coffin here.
This was Lucy mere moments after Natsu touched her boobs back in chapter 331. Lucy is obviously not holding a grudge against Natsu for what he did.
Later on, when the battle was over, Lucy wanted to hug him and thank him.
This is pretty much the exact opposite attitude she should have if she held a grudge against Natsu or disliked him for what he did. If Lucy doesn't choose to stay mad at Natsu touching her boobs and instead decides that she would rather find comfort in hugging him, then I certainly can't be bothered to get indignant on her behalf. Now, I agree that Natsu is dense and probably less aware of Lucy's feelings than Gray is aware of Juvia's feelings. But let's also be fair, Juvia's love for Gray is a no secret. Juvia is more outspoken about her feelings than Lucy is. Still it's really no big secret that Lucy is more affectionate towards Natsu than anyone else. At some point, things just get really obvious.
Though as obvious as Natsu and Lucy are, Gray and Juvia is still ahead of the game because Juvia has confirmed her feelings for Gray. This whole NaLu vs Gruvia thing is barely even a discussion. It's just a matter of time before both comes to fruition.
You seem to not understand the fact that she not only trusts Natsu, but they were in a fight against the dragons. Even if someone else did the same to Lucy, she wouldn't get mad or stay mad for long, as long as the person is a friend.
Can anyone prove that Lucy isn't more affectionate towards Natsu because of their long relationship? He's basically the first friend she made and the person that introduced her to FT and gave her hope and all that shit. Of course she'll be more affectionate towards Natsu. Otherwise you might as well pair everyone in FT off with Natsu as they think of him when they need motivation or inspiration, or they believe in him no matter how impossible something is.
Let's not forget Gray telling Juvia he'll give her an answer or something, and cheering her up whenever she's feeling down. In fact, the only time he acts negatively is when she's acting too freaky, otherwise they work seamlessly together. Doesn't really indicate superiority though since as far as I recall, Natsu and Lucy work well together too... right?
Are you talking to me? If so I didn't say Gray and Juvia is the worst I said their not as well developed. Gray and Juvia relationship is also as static as NaLu as Gray has yet to confirm his real feelings for Juvia. Juvia been overly affectionate with Gray yet Gray still holds out on his (most likely newfound) feelings for her.
Way to write another non-factual statement. Gray and Juvia are not as static as NaLu. Gray and Juvia made significant progress in serious moments of context, where Gray is shown to be far more mature than he was in the past in dealing with Juvia based on current events.
What kind of changes have NaLu have ever made? Come on now. We know they are affectionate, and are friends that give each other special treatment, which we know for a long time. That's what you call static not Gruvia.
He didn't say sorry to Lucy whatsoever. He simply didn't, and it's too late to state sorry now especially when Lucy has moved on. I doubt Natsu would ever say sorry anyway.
This was Lucy mere moments after Natsu touched her boobs back in chapter 331. Lucy is obviously not holding a grudge against Natsu for what he did.
Later on, when the battle was over, Lucy wanted to hug him and thank him.
This is pretty much the exact opposite attitude she should have if she held a grudge against Natsu or disliked him for what he did. If Lucy doesn't choose to stay mad at Natsu touching her boobs and instead decides that she would rather find comfort in hugging him, then I certainly can't be bothered to get indignant on her behalf. Now, I agree that Natsu is dense and probably less aware of Lucy's feelings than Gray is aware of Juvia's feelings. But let's also be fair, Juvia's love for Gray is a no secret. Juvia is more outspoken about her feelings than Lucy is. Still it's really no big secret that Lucy is more affectionate towards Natsu than anyone else. At some point, things just get really obvious.
Though as obvious as Natsu and Lucy are, Gray and Juvia is still ahead of the game because Juvia has confirmed her feelings for Gray. This whole NaLu vs Gruvia thing is barely even a discussion. It's just a matter of time before both comes to fruition.
Lucy was smiling at Natsu because he said he has a plan to take care of crisis going with the dragons. She didn't hold a grudge but she definitely was upset to a point that she punched him in the face
She definitely held a grudge against Natsu in the current events when he left her for a year. As you can see she kept repeating her stance, and displeasure toward him, so obviously she was hurt but what he did.
I reread the chapter, and nothing really implies he got back the guild for her. If anything, that probably motivated him to make the decision and take action sooner.
Well, Natsu won't break into Erza's house without a good reason. I think Erza's the only person that scares Natsu unless he's fired up. But Lucy obviously trusts Natsu and has known him the longest, he's the one who got her into Fairy Tail. Of course she'll give him special treatment, just as she would if anyone else was in Natsu's place.
Doesn't matter whether they secretly love each other or not, the development is barely there, and there really is no proof or evidence other than "special treatment."
When Jellal was the enemy? Granted, I'm not an FT otaku so I don't remember the details, but I know Natsu has gone out of his way to cheer up Erza, along with few others. And why would he need to cheer up Juvia? It seems her mood is negative only when Gray is in danger or something, otherwise she doesn't seem to be bothered. It's Lucy who's usually a panicky crybaby, and Wendy who gets worried a lot, so Natsu goes out of his way to console them the most. Plus, they're both main characters, so they obviously get more screen time where we see their interactions. The manga literally started with those two, and then Gray was introduced, and many chapters later, Juvia came into the fold.
Because Levy and Gajeel and Juvia and Gray are pairings or hinted to be future pairings. Why would Natsu do that when they have Gajeel and Gray?
And didn't he have romantic feelings for Mirajane's sister? Definitely something left unaddressed, if I recall.
He's never went out of his way to cheer up Erza... I said Juvia as an example and I used the other Fairy girls as an example with his relationships with the other women of FT. Panicky crybaby??? She never asks for Natsu's comfort he just gives it to her. Like I said Natsu treats the young of the guild (Wendy, Romeo, ect.) with more sensitivity as he's like their big brother but he doesn't bust into their rooms or sleep in their beds and he doesn't show anything romantic when around them.
The Lisanna thing was years ago and I don't think he showed any romantic indication in his teenage years.
They're static as Gray has still has yet to give a clear answer on his feelings. He's been acknowledge Juvia's feelings so that's not anything new.
He's never went out of his way to cheer up Erza... I said Juvia as an example and I used the other Fairy girls as an example with his relationships with the other women of FT. Panicky crybaby??? She never asks for Natsu's comfort he just gives it to her. Like I said Natsu treats the young of the guild (Wendy, Romeo, ect.) with more sensitivity as he's like their big brother but he doesn't bust into their rooms or sleep in their beds and he doesn't show anything romantic when around them.
The Lisanna thing was years ago and I don't think he showed any romantic indication in his teenage years.
They're static as Gray has still has yet to give a clear answer on his feelings. He's been acknowledge Juvia's feelings so that's not anything new.
Yeah he did. He cheered Erza up by tickling her and getting her to act rational when she was disgruntled with the emotional attachment she had with Jellal. Lucy is a panicky crybaby lots of times, let's not be in denial.
Are you shitting me? Just because Gray has yet to give a clear answer on his feelings doesn't imply the pairing is static. It's called development when you handle the situation better than what you did in the past. Which is what Gray did when he had a talk with Juvia about it. It's not about acknowledging her feeling, it's about coming into term with them. If he gave her a clear answer, that would make them canon.
He's never went out of his way to cheer up Erza... I said Juvia as an example and I used the other Fairy girls as an example with his relationships with the other women of FT. Panicky crybaby??? She never asks for Natsu's comfort he just gives it to her. Like I said Natsu treats the young of the guild (Wendy, Romeo, ect.) with more sensitivity as he's like their big brother but he doesn't bust into their rooms or sleep in their beds and he doesn't show anything romantic when around them.
The Lisanna thing was years ago and I don't think he showed any romantic indication in his teenage years.
They're static as Gray has still has yet to give a clear answer on his feelings. He's been acknowledge Juvia's feelings so that's not anything new.
he has, and he has risked his life for Erza as well on more than one occasion. And Juvia is a bad example because she has Gray, who has also cheered her up on many occasions.
She has panicked many times and cries a lot/whines a lot too, although she still meets challenges head on. And Natsu comforts many people like Wendy as well, so that means nothing. Natsu has shown nothing romantic towards Lucy either, or am I missing something?
Natsu showed feelings towards Lisanna, for one reason or another. I don't remember if he's shown he still cares about her/thinks about her romantically though.
Nope, not static as the relationship has moved forward. Right now, Gray is basically indicating that he likes/loves Juvia as well, though he hasn't said it. Can't really see how anyone can call Gray + Juvia static, unless they don't know what static means. It's far ahead in terms of romance and relationship than Natsu + Lucy, or most other pairings bar Gajeel + Levy and Erza and Jellal. Far more development than Natsu + Lucy, who barely has any hint of romance.
Natsu was the who who initiated in attacking the council guards when they apprehended Jellal so Erza can be happy about it.
Natsu was the one who dressed up as Erza so she can be pardoned in her punishment.
but yeah he didn't go out of his way to cheer up Erza.
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. She was more offended that he left without then the so "notorious" boob grab. She was was smiling at him right after he left and hugged him after the fight. Jesus Christ stop drinking your haterade and look at the facts instead of twisting them.
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