Because base Natsu isn't on Spriggan 12 level, he has to enter FDKM mode to even stand a chance of fighting on par with them, its not the same case like someone like say Laxus, who casually one shotted Azir with a swipe of his hand
Base Natsu hasn't had a chance to go all out against a Spriggan yet, so we can't calculate his power in relationship to Spriggans. I can see why you would think base Natsu isn't Spriggan level (I think that's a fair assumption), but it hasn't been confirmed yet. FDK mode Natsu doesn't fight on par with Spriggans, he demolishes them (at least the ones that are around Jacob's level).
Laxus did not oneshot Ajeel. I definetly think that he can with RL or other strong lightning spells, but the point is that he didn't. Also, Laxus's spell being cast casually doesn't mean that it is nothing compared to his other spells. Hades's Amaterasu 100 was casted casually yet it is arguably one of his top tier spells.
Exactly, Natsu can only attack him once he doesn't use Stealth. Jacob would oneshot Natsu thanks to Transport, a spell that is part of his magic. I don't know what you're trying to say, but Natsu won't solo Jacob.
Kyôka's attack is far better than Erza's once her Enhancement Curse is activated. Kyôka will grow stronger every second that passes, she could even become far above Spriggan tier. Kyôka will grow stronger than anyone in this fight at some time, which is a fact.
Natsu can't beat Jacob so long as Jacob has transport and can just clap his hand to teleport him. However, transport as a magic has nothing to do with Jacob's ability to fight. Natsu has shown that he can hit Jacob when Jacob is off guard in the moments before he uses stealth, and he has stronger attacks than Jacob does. At the end of the day, Jacob can't tank Natsu's demolition fist but Natsu can tank Jacob's attacks. Stealth is a non-factor because the body heat from FDK is capable of burning Jacob up in an AoE as large as Lake Scilliora.
Kyouka's attacks are not on par with a Spriggan's. She fought with Erza for 20 minutes, her power increasing with every passing moment. At the end of the 20 minutes, she still couldn't muster enough power to put Erza down and was defeated by Erza's katanas. Against someone like Wahl, she wouldn't even make it to the 20 minute mark.
Natsu can't beat Jacob so long as Jacob has transport and can just clap his hand to teleport him. However, transport as a magic has nothing to do with Jacob's ability to fight. Natsu has shown that he can hit Jacob when Jacob is off guard in the moments before he uses stealth, and he has stronger attacks than Jacob does. At the end of the day, Jacob can't tank Natsu's demolition fist but Natsu can tank Jacob's attacks. Stealth is a non-factor because the body heat from FDK is capable of burning Jacob up in an AoE as large as Lake Scilliora.
Kyouka's attacks are not on par with a Spriggan's. She fought with Erza for 20 minutes, her power increasing with every passing moment. At the end of the 20 minutes, she still couldn't muster enough power to put Erza down and was defeated by Erza's katanas. Against someone like Wahl, she wouldn't even make it to the 20 minute mark.
Transport allows Jacob to avoid fighting. It has nothing to do with how well Jacob actually fights. It just teleports his opponents away. What does that have to do with whether or not Natsu's attacks can knock out Spriggan level opponents?
Kyouka was defeated by Erza. Wahl would defeat Kyouka faster than Erza would. Kyouka would never reach the point where she becomes stronger than Erza, let alone stronger than Wahl.
Why are you talking about fighting with spriggan level mage and use Jacob vs Natsu in example?? More spriggans use cheat magic and is nothing real fight with them can be. How can anyone fight with Dimaria or Brandish??
Normal fight with spriggan level can be with mages like Serena or Ajeel. And battle J vs N is stupid example bs Jacob hasnt attack or defense potential. He is best in fast teleporting () and other kill spells. He can teleport Natsu and it will be end of battle. But in hand fight he is weak bs Natsu too strong. And he is so stupid to fighting him and dont use teleport.
And Natsu in his state when he fought with Zeref was nothing for Inber. He was scarry that Natsu can beat Zeref but not that Natsu is strong. Only for his ability to kill immortal.
Only real fight with spriggan was Laxus' battles (with Ajeel and Wahl (Laxus oneshot both of them)) and Serenas battle. Others are not real fights bs those spriggans use cheat magic like time stoping.
Finaly Natsu realy oneshot Jacob, but it is nothing to be spriggan level. While. Ofcourse Natsu is the main character and he will become the strongest in manga. But not now.
Why are you talking about fighting with spriggan level mage and use Jacob vs Natsu in example?? More spriggans use cheat magic and is nothing real fight with them can be. How can anyone fight with Dimaria or Brandish??
Normal fight with spriggan level can be with mages like Serena or Ajeel. And battle J vs N is stupid example bs Jacob hasnt attack or defense potential. He is best in fast teleporting () and other kill spells. He can teleport Natsu and it will be end of battle. But in hand fight he is weak bs Natsu too strong. And he is so stupid to fighting him and dont use teleport.
And Natsu in his state when he fought with Zeref was nothing for Inber. He was scarry that Natsu cat beat Zeref but not that Natsu is strong. Only for his ability to kill immortal.
Only real fight with spriggan was Laxus' battles (with Ajeel and Wahl (Laxus oneshot both of them)) and Serenas battle. Others are not real fights bs those spriggans use cheat magic like time stoping.
Finaly Natsu realy oneshot Jacob, but it is nothing to be spriggan level. While. Ofcourse Natsu is the main character and he will become the strongest in manga. But not now.
At the end of the day, Jacob is still a mage with a Spriggan's level of magical power. There's no reason to assume his durability is weaker than Ajeel's, Brandish's, Nienhart's, or Dimaria's. Sure, they might not be a dragon slayer like Serena or a robot like Wahl, but they still have more magical power than any other mage in the series. There's no problem with saying that that a Spriggan can win via the magic they use, and I'm not saying Natsu will win against Jacob if he can simply clap and teleport him away. However, the question here is whether or not Natsu has the attack power to knock out a Spriggan - and he does. If not with a single FDK spell, then certainly with multiple spells.
Natsu fought Zeref with Igneel's power. The fact that it was Igneel's power should say it all, given the fact that Igneel was on Acnologia's level. Zeref was impressed by the raw power before finding out that it came from Igneel. It's not actually that rare to wield the power of the dead, and really it would take more than that to kill Zeref. Igneel powered Natsu would have oneshotted Invel.
Transport allows Jacob to avoid fighting. It has nothing to do with how well Jacob actually fights. It just teleports his opponents away. What does that have to do with whether or not Natsu's attacks can knock out Spriggan level opponents?
Because it's part of his magic. Natsu can't defeat the 'real' Jacob, since the 'real' Jacob can use Transport. Facts are facts. If Natsu will have a solo fight against Jacob, Jacob would just use Transport and Natsu is done. Just like Di Maria would use Age Seal to oneshot any opponent in a solo fight.
Kyouka was defeated by Erza. Wahl would defeat Kyouka faster than Erza would. Kyouka would never reach the point where she becomes stronger than Erza, let alone stronger than Wahl.
Erza defeated Kyôka 'because she's Erza', which was stated by Happy. Is anyone in this fight Erza? No. Would anyone in this fight have the ability to fight further once they're badly tortured or their senses are stolen? No. Only PoF Erza can, because she is Acnologia tier.
Wahl won't defeat Kyôka. Wahl is a robot with the ability to create robots. The only thing Kyôka has to do is this:
Kyôka could break through one of Erza's armors with her bare hands. I'm not saying she could do this with the same ease with Wahl, but it's possible she could break through Wahl as well. We saw that Freed, Ichiya and Laxus could crush his body as well. These three will never break through Erza's armor with ease. It's a fact that Kyôka already is a dangerous opponent without using her curse.
Anyway, Kyôka can use her Sensation Curse on multiple opponents at once. See for yourself:
She could easily prevent any other opponent from attacking.
And Natsu in his state when he fought with Zeref was nothing for Inber. He was scarry that Natsu cat beat Zeref but not that Natsu is strong. Only for his ability to kill immortal.
That shows that Invel is cocky just like God Serena and Jacob who both weren't scared of Acnologia's magic power. Invel wouldn't last a minute against Igneel powered Natsu (and a minute is being generous).
Because it's part of his magic. Natsu can't defeat the 'real' Jacob, since the 'real' Jacob can use Transport. Facts are facts. If Natsu will have a solo fight against Jacob, Jacob would just use Transport and Natsu is done. Just like Di Maria would use Age Seal to oneshot any opponent in a solo fight.
Speaking of which, didn't you say that TO Sherria was on the same tier as Laxus and Jellal for defeating Di maria, even though she needed Ultear's help to get around Age Seal and would've lost against her 1 v 1 , just like Natsu and Jacob?
2). TO Chelia
Once Chelia received Third Origin she became very strong. I don't doubt about it that TO Chelia is at the same tier as Laxus and Jellal. She could defeat one of the most powerful Spriggans with ease. She'll also have an advantage in this battle thanks to her ability to heal herself. TO Chelia will go to the next round without a doubt.
At the end of the day, Jacob is still a mage with a Spriggan's level of magical power. There's no reason to assume his durability is weaker than Ajeel's, Brandish's, Nienhart's, or Dimaria's. Sure, they might not be a dragon slayer like Serena or a robot like Wahl, but they still have more magical power than any other mage in the series. There's no problem with saying that that a Spriggan can win via the magic they use, and I'm not saying Natsu will win against Jacob if he can simply clap and teleport him away. However, the question here is whether or not Natsu has the attack power to knock out a Spriggan - and he does. If not with a single FDK spell, then certainly with multiple spells.
Natsu fought Zeref with Igneel's power. The fact that it was Igneel's power should say it all, given the fact that Igneel was on Acnologia's level. Zeref was impressed by the raw power before finding out that it came from Igneel. It's not actually that rare to wield the power of the dead, and really it would take more than that to kill Zeref. Igneel powered Natsu would have oneshotted Invel.
Igneels powered Natsu do the shit to Inber bs this power dont make him stronger, it is only ability to kill immortal.
Killing Jacob dont make Natsu spriggan level. How i must told you that mages have differenr stats. First has strong attack, second has cheat magic, third has high def. And killing first and second dont make mage super strong to kill the third. If Natsu can oneshot Jacob there is nothing confirmation that he can deal with mage like Serena or even Wolfheim.
Hiberion is higher than Wolf and use cheat magic, but who argues that Wolf cant oneshot Hiberion?? He is physically stronger than anyone in manga.
That shows that Invel is cocky just like God Serena and Jacob who both weren't scared of Acnologia's magic power. Invel wouldn't last a minute against Igneel powered Natsu (and a minute is being generous).
Igneels powered Natsu do the shit to Inber bs this power dont make him stronger, it is only ability to kill immortal.
Jacob frightened when saw Acno. More than Serena.
But how people should know that they cant fight with somebody without a try?
Igneels powered Natsu do the shit to Inber bs this power dont make him stronger, it is only ability to kill immortal.
Jacob frightened when saw Acno. More than Serena.
But how people should know that they cant fight with somebody without a try?
Bro, I personally find that ridiculous, but to each his own. We are getting a little of topic anyways since Igneel powered Natsu is restricted here ( I think).
Because it's part of his magic. Natsu can't defeat the 'real' Jacob, since the 'real' Jacob can use Transport. Facts are facts. If Natsu will have a solo fight against Jacob, Jacob would just use Transport and Natsu is done. Just like Di Maria would use Age Seal to oneshot any opponent in a solo fight.
Erza defeated Kyôka 'because she's Erza', which was stated by Happy. Is anyone in this fight Erza? No. Would anyone in this fight have the ability to fight further once they're badly tortured or their senses are stolen? No. Only PoF Erza can, because she is Acnologia tier.
Wahl won't defeat Kyôka. Wahl is a robot with the ability to create robots. The only thing Kyôka has to do is this:
Kyôka could break through one of Erza's armors with her bare hands. I'm not saying she could do this with the same ease with Wahl, but it's possible she could break through Wahl as well. We saw that Freed, Ichiya and Laxus could crush his body as well. These three will never break through Erza's armor with ease. It's a fact that Kyôka already is a dangerous opponent without using her curse.
Anyway, Kyôka can use her Sensation Curse on multiple opponents at once. See for yourself:
She could easily prevent any other opponent from attacking.
Again, transport allows Jacob to avoid fighting. It has nothing to do with Jacob's abilities when it comes to actually fighting his opponents. As a fighter, Jacob doesn't have the means of knocking out Natsu. This is not true vice-versa. The question at hand is whether or not Natsu has enough power to knock out a Spriggan level opponent with demolition fist, and he does. Therefore if he lands a hit with demolition fist on anyone in this battlefield that's weaker than a Spriggan, he should be able to knock them out. Who cares that Jacob can avoid having to fight Natsu by teleporting him? How does that have anything to do with how Natsu stacks up against people here in this fight? It doesn't.
Erza beat Kyouka because she's stronger than Kyouka. Maybe nobody else can locate Kyouka once she steals their senses like Erza can, but Wahl is a robot so that shouldn't even be something he needs to worry about. You're right that nobody here is Erza. They are, however, stronger than Erza. We know what attack it takes to take out Kyouka. To say that nobody else has an attack as strong as Erza's is just silly. Kyouka would get taken out by Natsu's casual roar, any of assault Wahl's strikes, or Wendy's metsu-kami ogi. Kyouka couldn't keep Erza down because she couldn't deal enough damage to physically disable Erza. She won't be able to physically disable anyone else on this battle either. Wahl > Erza's armadura. Erza's adamantine armor was her strongest defensive armor. Kagura can cut that. Doesn't mean she can cut up Wahl.
How do you even say that Era is on Acnologia's level with a straight face? In the previous threads, you were saying Ajeel is a fodder because Erza could damage him. Did Erza not use PoF against Ajeel? Did Erza not still get overpowered by Ajeel until she got some help? But no, Ajeel is a fodder oneshottable by Juvia, but it takes an Acnologia-tier to take out Kyouka? Acnologia can casually walk up to 3 Spriggans in his human form, and tear a hole through one of them before anybody even knew what was going on. How on earth on they the same level? It doesn't take an Acnologia-tier to defeat Kyouka. That's massive overrating.
Kyouka can launch attacks that effect multiple people. That's nothing special. She needs to be able to steal the senses of multiple people which isn't something she's done before. In this fight specifically, Wahl is a robot. His senses are artificial.
Igneels powered Natsu do the shit to Inber bs this power dont make him stronger, it is only ability to kill immortal.
Killing Jacob dont make Natsu spriggan level. How i must told you that mages have differenr stats. First has strong attack, second has cheat magic, third has high def. And killing first and second dont make mage super strong to kill the third. If Natsu can oneshot Jacob there is nothing confirmation that he can deal with mage like Serena or even Wolfheim.
Hiberion is higher than Wolf and use cheat magic, but who argues that Wolf cant oneshot Hiberion?? He is physically stronger than anyone in manga.
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Igneels powered Natsu do the shit to Inber bs this power dont make him stronger, it is only ability to kill immortal.
Jacob frightened when saw Acno. More than Serena.
But how people should know that they cant fight with somebody without a try?
Igneel's power makes Natsu stronger. It's Igneel's magical power, and Igneel was on Acnologia's level. Unless you're saying Natsu could have fought Acnologia as well as Igneel could have, of course having Igneel's power would have given him a power boost. This isn't even really debatable There's no gaurantee that she can even steal his senses, and that as a robot he couldn't just reconfigure himself a new set of optics.
Explain to me why Jacob would have weaker durability than Neinhart, Dimaria, Ajeel, or Dimaria. Jacob should be no less durable than any other Spriggan. Serena is a special case because he's a dragon slayer, and therefore would have extra resistance against fire attacks due to Purgatory DS. Dragon Slayers also tend to be more durable physically.
Again, transport allows Jacob to avoid fighting. It has nothing to do with Jacob's abilities when it comes to actually fighting his opponents. As a fighter, Jacob doesn't have the means of knocking out Natsu. This is not true vice-versa. The question at hand is whether or not Natsu has enough power to knock out a Spriggan level opponent with demolition fist, and he does. Therefore if he lands a hit with demolition fist on anyone in this battlefield that's weaker than a Spriggan, he should be able to knock them out. Who cares that Jacob can avoid having to fight Natsu by teleporting him? How does that have anything to do with how Natsu stacks up against people here in this fight? It doesn't.
Once Jacob fights someone, he could use Transport to defeat him/her. I don't get you don't understand this. Natsu can't defeat Jacob so he isn't Spriggan tier, yet.
Erza beat Kyouka because she's stronger than Kyouka. Maybe nobody else can locate Kyouka once she steals their senses like Erza can, but Wahl is a robot so that shouldn't even be something he needs to worry about. You're right that nobody here is Erza. They are, however, stronger than Erza. We know what attack it takes to take out Kyouka. To say that nobody else has an attack as strong as Erza's is just silly. Kyouka would get taken out by Natsu's casual roar, any of assault Wahl's strikes, or Wendy's metsu-kami ogi. Kyouka couldn't keep Erza down because she couldn't deal enough damage to physically disable Erza. She won't be able to physically disable anyone else on this battle either. Wahl > Erza's armadura. Erza's adamantine armor was her strongest defensive armor. Kagura can cut that. Doesn't mean she can cut up Wahl.
We all know a PoF power-up outclasses Acnologia tiers. PoF Erza would defeat anyone, we've seen she's undefeatable once she uses PoF.
Base Erza would be dominated by Kyôka, just like she was before she used PoF.
Kyôka will dodge any attack from Natsu once her speed is increased. Wahl's lazers are easy to tank and Kyôka could dodge this pretty easy as well. Or she could use Sensation Curse so they'll be screaming and won't even have a chance to attack.
When is it stated Kagura can't break through Wahl? If Red Lightning could crash him, unsealed Archenemy sure can as well.
Erza is not on Acnologia's level. How do you even say that with a straight face. Did Erza not use PoF when he fought Ajeel? I mean, come on! In the previous threads, you were saying Ajeel is a fodder because Erza could damage him. Did Erza not use PoF against Ajeel? Did Erza not still get overpowered by Ajeel until she got some help? But no, Ajeel is a fodder oneshottable by Juvia but it takes an Acnologia-tier to take out Kyouka? Acnologia can casually walk up to 3 Spriggans in his human form, and tear a hole through one of them before anybody even knew what was going on. How on earth on they the same level? It doesn't take an Acnologia-tier to defeat Kyouka. That's massive overrating.
Kyouka can launch attacks that effect multiple people. That's nothing special. She needs to be able to steal the senses of multiple people for this to work. In this fight specifically, Wahl is a robot. His senses are artificial.
Once Jacob fights someone, he could use Transport to defeat him/her. I don't get you don't understand this. Natsu can't defeat Jacob so he isn't Spriggan tier, yet.
Speaking of which, didn't you say that TO Sherria was on the same tier as Laxus and Jellal for defeating Di maria, even though she needed Ultear's help to get around Age Seal and would've lost against her 1 v 1 , just like Natsu and Jacob?
So if you can accept Sherria being spriggan tier, why can't you accept the same for Natsu?
Once Jacob fights someone, he could use Transport to defeat him/her. I don't get you don't understand this. Natsu can't defeat Jacob so he isn't Spriggan tier, yet.
We all know a PoF power-up outclasses Acnologia tiers. PoF Erza would defeat anyone, we've seen she's undefeatable once she uses PoF.
Base Erza would be dominated by Kyôka, just like she was before she used PoF.
Kyôka will dodge any attack from Natsu once her speed is increased. Wahl's lazers are easy to tank and Kyôka could dodge this pretty easy as well. Or she could use Sensation Curse so they'll be screaming and won't even have a chance to attack.
When is it stated Kagura can't break through Wahl? If Red Lightning could crash him, unsealed Archenemy sure can as well.
When did Erza use PoF against Ajeel? She lost because she didn't.
Ajeel > Erza, but Ajeel is still fodder compared to the other Spriggans thanks to his magic.
I don't get where you're going now. I never said Juvia could solo Ajeel. I never said Kyôka can only be defeated by Acnologia. Lmao.
Who ever said Wahl won't be effected by Sensation Curse?
Kyôka will effect all her opponents with Sensation Curse. All of them will kneel for the queen.
Jacob's transport ability really has nothing to do with Jacob's ability to fight as a Spriggan. Jacob would still have a Spriggan's level of MP without transport, and his durability would be suitably impressive. Being able to knock out Jacob with the ease that Natsu did puts his attack power in the range of being able to knock out a Spriggan. Saying that Jacob can beat Natsu by teleporting him is meaningless. Anyone who can teleport another person can potentially do that. It doesn't take a Spriggan level.
PoF doesn't outclass Acnologia. PoF Erza would lose to Acnologia. There was no shortage of PoF on Tenrou Island. There is no shortage of PoF in any of Erza's fights, it's active all the time. It's unbelievable how you can say that Erza with PoF is Acnologia tier, recognize that Erza used PoF against Ajeel, recognize that Ajeel is stronger than Erza, and then turn around and call Ajeel a fodder. Base Erza is just Erza > Kyouka. Even if you want to make a distinction between Erza's armors, base Erza was what defeated Kyouka. Kyouka would get hit by Wahl's laser in the same way Laxus did, and they would heavily damage her. Then once she's wounded, Wahl finishes her off with a bunch of hits or Etherion.
You said Juvia would killshot Ajeel, and you said that Ajeel was a fodder.
Speaking of which, didn't you say that TO Sherria was on the same tier as Laxus and Jellal for defeating Di maria, even though she needed Ultear's help to get around Age Seal and would've lost against her 1 v 1 , just like Natsu and Jacob?
So if you can accept Sherria being spriggan tier, why can't you accept the same for Natsu?
Jacob's transport ability really has nothing to do with Jacob's ability to fight as a Spriggan. Jacob would still have a Spriggan's level of MP without transport, and his durability would be suitably impressive. Being able to knock out Jacob with the ease that Natsu did puts his attack power in the range of being able to knock out a Spriggan. Saying that Jacob can beat Natsu by teleporting him is meaningless. Anyone who can teleport another person can potentially do that. It doesn't take a Spriggan level.
PoF doesn't outclass Acnologia. PoF Erza would lose to Acnologia. There was no shortage of PoF on Tenrou Island. There is no shortage of PoF in any of Erza's fights, it's active all the time. It's unbelievable how you can say that Erza with PoF is Acnologia tier, recognize that Erza used PoF against Ajeel, recognize that Ajeel is stronger than Erza, and then turn around and call Ajeel a fodder. Base Erza is just Erza > Kyouka. Even if you want to make a distinction between Erza's armors, base Erza was what defeated Kyouka. Kyouka would get hit by Wahl's laser in the same way Laxus did, and they would heavily damage her. Then once she's wounded, Wahl finishes her off with a bunch of hits or Etherion.
We all know PoF is the ultimate power-up to win from overpowered opponents.
Erza didn't use PoF against Ajeel. Erza would've lost against Kyôka if she didn't receive a PoF power-up, which is a fact because Erza was chanceless against Kyôka before that.
Laxus tanked almost every spell that Wahl used against him. Etherion does take time to cast, Kyôka will crush him before that.
Transport is part of Jacob's magic and in a fight both opponents may use their magic without any restrictions.
We all know PoF is the ultimate power-up to win from overpowered opponents.
Erza didn't use PoF against Ajeel. Erza would've lost against Kyôka if she didn't receive a PoF power-up, which is a fact because Erza was chanceless against Kyôka before that.
Laxus tanked almost every spell that Wahl used against him. Etherion does take time to cast, Kyôka will crush him before that.
1). I said Juvia would oneshot Ajeel in a battle royale, once he doesn't pay attention.
2). I said Ajeel is fodder compared to the other Spriggans.
Again: In a discussion about how Natsu's attacks stacks up against other opponents, transport is meaningless. Simply put, the reason why Natsu couldn't solo Jacob isn't because he doesn't have the power to deal enough damage to knock out a Spriggan, it's because Jacob can avoid fighting him by teleporting his away. We're not talking about how hard it is for Natsu to stop Jacob teleporting him away. Nobody in this match even has that ability, so it's not like it has any relevance. We're talking about Natsu's attack power and whether or not he can knock out the people in this match-up. Saying that Natsu's attacks are not Spriggan-tier because he has no way to stop Jacob from teleporting him is completely missing the question. The two literally has nothing to do with each other. At the end of the day, if Natsu lands a solid blow on Jacob it would knock him out. Jacob has magical power of a Spriggan 12, and his durability should scale accordingly. The only people on this list that will avoid getting oneshotted are either the Spriggans, or people who have beaten Spriggans.
Pretty much all the main characters use PoF in every serious fight in this series. To suggest that Erza only used PoF exclusively for Kyouka is ridiculous. You're basically trying to say that Erza became an Acnologia tier exclusively to fight Kyouka for 1 time in this series, and never once before or after. The amount of special pleading in that statement is unreal. Erza wouldn't be on Acnologia's level even if she used PoF. She definitely had PoF on tenrou island, and Acnologia owned her and then some.
You said Juvia would kill Ajeel, which she won't. The fact you say that Ajeel is a fodder among the Spriggans is completely relevant. Erza admitted that Ajeel was stronger than any opponent she has faced before. If you call Ajeel a fodder among Spriggans, then Kyouka is a fodder among Spriggans. Guess who is a Spriggan? Wahl. According to you, Wahl should fodderize a Spriggan like Ajeel. According to Erza, Ajeel is stronger than Kyouka. Put 2 and 2 together, and Wahl should fodderize Kyouka. Natrsu and Chelia can take out Spriggans in a single clean shot. They should have no problem taking out Kyouka with a single clean shot.
It wouldn't even take Etherion to put down Kyouka. Any attack from Assault Mode should outclass Erza's slashes.
But it's pretty obvious that fdkm Natsu could've soloed a restricted Jacob. I mean, he was burning up from just being near Natsu and Demolition Fist obviously did the most damage to him,by a huge margin.
) and other kill spells. He can teleport Natsu and it will be end of battle. But in hand fight he is weak bs Natsu too strong. And he is so stupid to fighting him and dont use teleport.
