I might have spotted a mistake!

[Copy Panda]

As the title suggests, I might have spotted a mistake.

During the fight, at some point Hisoka gets his arms cut off. Then during the fight, he reattaches those arms, and uses them to throw punches and the like. Specifically, he reattaches his cut off arm to his his arm, and punches Kastro.

My question is, how did he manage to form a fist? Or move his fingers? I get that he 'stuck together' the arms, but how is he able to move fingers and the like? If his powers allowed him to do that, why did he need Machi?

 

[uberfayt]

Maybe with Bungee gum he glued his fingers together tightly enough to form a fist. Also he could've used his Gum as threads to control his fingers, just like a puppeteer (Kastro wasn't using Gyo so he didn't see anything).

I may go a bit off topic but since we are talking about flaws, here is one which has been bugging me:
How the hell did Killua know about "Dragon dive" ? Not only he knew how it looked like but he also knew the name...Yet we know that between the time Killua learned nen and the chimera ans arc he didn't have any contact with Zeno. Also it is very unlikely that he was told about it in the past...

 

[Copy Panda]

During his training with Wing, after Gon broke his arm, he mentioned that they already know things about nen. Then Killua mentioned his brother, but not the rest of his family. Well maybe he wasn't going to give away that he was from the Zoldycs, but still, he mentioned specifically his brother.

Yeah, maybe that was just in the anime though. I'll check in the manga later.

 

[shionoro]

To both of you:

First: I would assume that hisoka can still let his nen 'flow' through the arm and use low level manipulation nen (he is a manipulator after all) to do basica operations like contracting muscles.
Much like an enhancer, if he tries enough, can learn to shoot nen emission bullets, basic things like that should be possible for a guy like hisoka, even if it is on the very other side of the spectrum.
Other possibilities were pointed out by using bungeed gum.

Second: Killuah did not know about nen, but he knew his parents and his brother were insanly strong people.
There were people using nen without our cast realizing it before, namely illumi with his needles in the hunter exam and hisoka with his cards.
It is not out of question that killuah just thought (he is rather young after all) that his father simply is above normal humans and can do such tricks.

--- Double Post Merged, May 24, 2016, Original Post Date: May 24, 2016 ---

And i mean, he saw what alluka can do and didnt really think much about it, it does not seem out of question that, coming from the zoldyeks, you simply think stuff like that can happen and get on with your life.

 

[Copy Panda]

Hisoka is a transmuter though

Also, what about the emission bullets?

 

[shionoro]

Hisoka is a transmuter though

Also, what about the emission bullets?

Ya, well, i think a transmuter as skilled as hisoka is able to use basical manipulation techniques like making a fist tight when it is near to his body, just like other classes can do basic techniqes from every class (emission might have been a bad example because it is close to enhancement. But we saw kastro even being able to control a complete fake body perfectly. This was only possible by neglecting other skills, but just making a fist shouldnt be out of question for a high level nen user like hisoka).

 

[Demonspeed]

Every Nen user can use the other types(besides Specialisation) to an extent. Zazan for example got Fei off guard with a weak emitted ball.

For Killua, I guess he asked them after learning Nen just like how he was contacting Milluki. Tsubone knew about his Hatsu but not Godspeed which he created in the Ants arc. They must have exchanged informations somehow.

 

[uberfayt]

The thing is, I don't see Zoldyk family members exchanging information about themselves, unless there are transactions involved. Also they have as primary principle that "it is the most foolish thing to reveal your abilities to others".

Actually Killua knowing about Illumi's ability in detail is also quite mysterious, although that could be explained easily by the following : In the past, Killua must have seen his brother use his needles on some victime, but just asumed it was a special technique where you'd have to hit a specific point in the body. Then later after learning Nen, he could easily understand the trick behind it.
But this cannot be said about "Dragon dive", as it is a pure aura technique so Killua couldn't have seen it prior to learning nen.

 

[Demonspeed]

Why? It makes sense since they often work together. That kind of thing was brought up in this arc too. With the Zodiacs needing to reveal their abilities for better cooperation. And as I said Tsubone knew about Killua's Hatsu(I checked it again and she even knew about Godspeed).

 

[uberfayt]

Well as you know from the relations between the family members, they are mostly based on "give and take" between the active assassins. Surprisingly enough, Milluki who is said to "obey" his father still required some transaction to give information about Alluka. Not to mention how he deals with Killua. This is why I said that I don't see them casually exchanging information (especially Killua who has enough reasons not to). But still regarding this topic, the possibility that they talked about their abilities offscreen, probably as a "give and take", is the logical one. One possible time window is when Killua passed the exam, he could've asked his bro for the yo-yos and could've gave him info about his hatsu. But concerning Tsubone, that is strange too...how do you think she got wind of his Godspeed ?

 

[Demonspeed]

Their relationships are not just that though. They are peculiar but they are still a family. Alluka is an exception, she is not considered humans by the others because of the danger she represents. Milluki doesn't seem to have a bad relationship with Killua. He was punishing Killua because he had run away, that's how things works in their family and Milluki was the one they chose(?). After that their interactions have been fine(York Shin arc), his interactions with him are certainly more casual than with Illumi.

 

[XXGenesis]

I think the most logical answer is that, Killia learned about it from Milluki, off screen.....Coincidently Killua isn't shown interacting with Zeno or Illumi after he awakens Nen, so the next best guess is Killua asked some of the top butlers or Traded info with Milluki to find out what Nen powers is his family working with

 

[uberfayt]

Their relationships are not just that though. They are peculiar but they are still a family. Alluka is an exception, she is not considered humans by the others because of the danger she represents. Milluki doesn't seem to have a bad relationship with Killua. He was punishing Killua because he had run away, that's how things works in their family and Milluki was the one they chose(?). After that their interactions have been fine(York Shin arc), his interactions with him are certainly more casual than with Illumi.

That is true, like even Illumi loves his family (especially Killua, in an exagerated way). However affection and family love aside, when they want something from each other, they usually offer something in return. One example is what I said about Milluki and Silva. Another is Milluki and Killua about the leads on Greed Island. Also you certainly agree with me that some members get along better than other.
I'm getting off topic here, but the relation which intrigates me the most is between Kalluto and Killua. The first is looking for affection while the latter completely ignores him (maybe cuz he's very close to Kiyo).

 

[kira]

killua and zeno might have gone on a mission before, and although he didn't know about nen that time, the effects of dragon dive could still be seen with the holes on the ground. and even when they didn't know about nen they could still feel it somehow.

 

[HxHFan1]

I don't see it like a problem. It could be simply enough that Zeno told to a very young Killua "Once you grow i'll show up my special move, Dragon Dive" or Zeno and Silva where coming back from a mission and they spoke about what happened and Killua listened.
Could be anything, Killua doesn't need Nen to recognize Dragon Dive, it could be simply being described to him