Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Brandish μ]

But he brought the weaker version of Hades i.e. Hades without heart.I am not saying he can't bring Mard though i consider Mard to be stronger than Hades.

Hades with Heart is definitely better, but the main thing that Hades gets from the heart is vitality. He can take a beating and then the heart replenishes him. It would also give him some extra firepower I assume (the Hidden magic).

Tbh Hades w/o Heart would be around GoI level anyway. I can see him being just as strong as Warrod without Heart.

 

[Arjuna]

Hades with Heart is definitely better, but the main thing that Hades gets from the heart is vitality. He can take a beating and then the heart replenishes him. It would also give him some extra firepower I assume (the Hidden magic).

Tbh Hades w/o Heart would be around GoI level anyway. I can see him being just as strong as Warrod without Heart.

Heavily injured Laxus defeated him.So i will put him on the level of Makarov.And i put Mard on the low tier Spriggan level.

 

[Brandish μ]

Heavily injured Laxus defeated him.So i will put him on the level of Makarov.And i put Mard on the low tier Spriggan level.

Laxus' LD jaw is probably strong enough to defeat a lot of characters pre-skip. Mard's unlikely to be Spriggan level, well Bradman should be above Mard Geer imo. Hiro's gone out of his way to suggest the Spriggans are on a different level.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Read the original post I quoted.


Nothing about Natsu and Gray here but I will entertain the thought.

Natsu and Gray are at least average s12 level, sure. Gray is yet to prove it, but let's go with it since he probably is. Erza had trouble against Ajeel with help on her side. Eileen and August are on a different dimension than him, as Natsu, Happy and Lucy put it.

Lucy, Juvia, Happy and Wendy should be irrelevant. It would be downgrading Eileen if they survive her nukes like the rest.

Wendy with dragon force couldn't do anything to Dimaria. If she tanks a nuke stronger than the one that pushed Acnologia back...

Natsu can only beat a Spirggan if he has Igneel's power up,if not he will lose in a 1vs1.
Besides Laxus,Jella( maybe Gildart and Mavis) nobody could 1vs1 Spriggan without a plot hole or plot armor.

 

[Boomburst]

Natsu can only beat a Spirggan if he has Igneel's power up,if not he will lose in a 1vs1.
Besides Laxus,Jella( maybe Gildart and Mavis) nobody could 1vs1 Spriggan without a plot hole or plot armor.

Jellal definetely won with plot armor, Neinhart had the ability to create anyone he wanted that was already dead and yet all Jellal had to get past was Simon.

Laxus's fight was bs as well. Logically Wahl shouldn't have been affected by that last attack from Laxus, the only reason it ended up killing him was friendship and nakama power.

 

[Brandish μ]

Jellal definetely won with plot armor, Neinhart had the ability to create anyone he wanted that was already dead and yet all Jellal had to get past was Simon.

I don't think it was plot armour. Using psychological tactics is a part of Neinharts combat style. It just means that the "attack" on Jellal was a magically weak one.

Laxus's fight was bs as well. Logically Wahl shouldn't have been affected by that last attack from Laxus, the only reason it ended up killing him was friendship and nakama power.

Logically perhaps. But it did affect Wahl. You can only assume that Red Lightning can smash Wahl because that's what it did. An explanation from Hiro would've done wonders, but even without one we know RL can destroy Wahl.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

I was thinking more of Gajeel than Laxus/Jellal.

I mean Brandmann not using macro is just wtf,why? He nused all other curses besides Kyooka's an Sayla's....

 

[EmberSpirit]

Jellal definetely won with plot armor, Neinhart had the ability to create anyone he wanted that was already dead and yet all Jellal had to get past was Simon.

Laxus's fight was bs as well. Logically Wahl shouldn't have been affected by that last attack from Laxus, the only reason it ended up killing him was friendship and nakama power.

Neinhart knew that there was no one he could bring to defeat Jellal. He saw the effects of Jellal's magic. He knew he wasn't getting out of that one, which is why he took the psychological approach to make Jellal hesitate. Jellal could release Grand Chariot to destroy anyone he brings with Neinhart.

Red lightning was a different type of lightning with different properties. Same goes with black lightning or other fantasy elements. You have to take it for what it is. Laxus should have used red lightning before his life was threatened. That was bs. Curing Laxus's illness like that was bs.

 

[Takuan]

That might have been bs (imo that was a good fight), but you need to keep in mind that Laxus was badly ill to begin with. If the fight wasn't unfair from the get go it would have been extremely one-sided for Laxus. You can say that he didn't deserve to win in his state, but he's definitely Spriggan level and better than Wahl anyway.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

I don't know about Juvia, Wendy, and Lucy given they're not high tiered enough. Erza is also too hurt to fight, so it would be just as "downgrading" for a severely hurt Erza to beat Irene even if it's one against many. But I agree otherwise, those four (minus Zeref if Natsu is fighting him) should lose due to team effort. Though, I guess we'll see if Irene will fight Team Natsu-Gray, it depends on how her feeling towards Erza is. If she's the sister, she may have been sadistic towards Hisui and her father due to her parents; if mother then it could be due to Erza's father or her own parents, which somehow caused her to lose Erza.

Do you mean degrading though?

Where Natsu and underestimating him come from? I don't think I was talking about that at all.

2. Example: Erza could be killed, or be in the state that she's in right now, and still somehow manage to go full power and kill her super powerful opponent, just because nakama and not wanting to give up due to nakama. NAKAMA

3. How so? What makes magic similar to water? Though if it's fire, Natsu might be at a disadvantage unless IRene can produce uber duber super powerful fire that not even Natsu or Igneel could match. But I don't think Irene is limited to just katon no jutsu, she's considered among the top 5 mages for a reason.


Erza is likely on Spriggan level, but lulz at you thinking they'd turn Bradman to dust in a second. Highly doubt it. Spriggan level doesn't make sense anyway, if August and IRene are considered part of Spriggan, because the power levels vary. It's all about the matchups.

Why would Erza be fighting when she's wounded very badly? She has to be healed first, otherwise she'll just get in the way and cause the team to lose much quicker. Too bad we didn't get any indication of how Irene felt about Erza - but then if she does love her, then she might be pissed at Natsu and others for being responsible for Erza's state and attack them.
Also, this post is on topic as it's mainly about this and upcoming chapter. pls don't delete mine, delete Char's posts instead.

Yeah I meant degrading,my bad.
You are seriously understimating Wendy,Juvia and Lucy. I mean sure they aren't at the lvl as Erza,Mira or Ultear.but saying that they wouldn't even be able to do anything in a team fight,is ridiculous.

Erza wasn't even able to beat Ajeel,she isn't Spriggan tier.

Ofc she would get healed first,there're no way she would be even able to stand up let alone battle someone as strong as Irene.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

I was thinking more of Gajeel than Laxus/Jellal.

I mean Brandmann not using macro is just wtf,why? He nused all other curses besides Kyooka's an Sayla's....

Bradman didn't use macro because he was to confident in his victory! Gajeel couldn't even touch Bradman due to his splendid form and thus not damage him at all so Bradman played with him to have fun ( after all Bradman is an evil demon and didn't consider Gajeel as a threat ). Gajeel ate the mbp, he changed the property of his magic and activated DF at the same time. After that Gajeel immediately attacked and Bradman simply didn't get the chance to use anything ( so DF Gajeel is a lot faster than Bradman)!

 

[Ebony Maw]

Bradman didn't use macro because he was to confident in his victory! Gajeel couldn't even touch Bradman due to his splendid form and thus not damage him at all so Bradman played with him to have fun ( after all Bradman is an evil demon and didn't consider Gajeel as a threat ). When Gajeel ate the mbp, he changed the property of his magic and activated DF at the same time. After that Gajeel immediately attacked and Bradman simply didn't get the chance to use anything ( so DF Gajeel is a lot faster than Bradman)!

You get an A+ for including the splendid form bit. I miss his Shakespearean ways.

I do find it strange how he wasn't empowering himself (like Kyoka) as the fight went on though. All that hax wasted....
Altogether, I'd probably rank Bradman (not fighting stupidly) as the 3rd or 4th strongest Spriggan so far, his hax is way too much.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

You get an A+ for including the splendid form bit. I miss his Shakespearean ways.

I do find it strange how he wasn't empowering himself (like Kyoka) as the fight went on though. All that hax wasted....
Altogether, I'd probably rank Bradman (not fighting stupidly) as the 3rd or 4th strongest Spriggan so far, his hax is way too much.

I too, only Eileen and August are stronger than him for sure! Well, Wahl could kill him because he can negate mbp and Jacob's transport spell and Dimaria's age seal are just op ( they can defeat anyone with their hax who is on the same level or less)

 

[Ebony Maw]

I too, only Eileen and August are stronger than him for sure! Well, Wahl could kill him because he can negate mbp and Jacob's transport spell and Dimaria's age seal are just op ( they can defeat anyone with their hax who is on the same level or less)

I like Bradman so much that I forget about how hax the others are lol. I'd put Bradman above Wahl though, against each other Wahl would win but the MBP's and curses Bradman use are probably harder to deal with for other people. (The small amount that can challenge Spriggans)

I'd probably put it like this (not counting Invel and Lacarde):

1) August
2) Irene
3) DiMaria
4) Brandish (mainly due to how fast she can do it)
5) Jacob (FT got really lucky against him)
6) Bradman
7) God Serena (I put stomping GoI + Jura > Giving a good fight to MBP infected Laxus)
8) Wahl
9) Ajeel
10) Neinhart

 

[Hermit]

My current Spriggan 12 Ranking is probably something like this:
1. Eileen (yes I'm biased fight me)
2.August
3.Dimaria
4.Brandish
5.God Serena
6.Wahl Icht
7.Bradman
8.Ajeel Lamur
9.NeinHart
10.Jacob Lessio

 

[Ebony Maw]

My current Spriggan 12 Ranking is probably something like this:
1. Eileen (yes I'm biased fight me)
2.August
3.Dimaria
4.Brandish
5.God Serena
6.Wahl Icht
7.Bradman
8.Ajeel Lamur
9.NeinHart
10.Jacob Lessio

I'm outside now, make sure you're wearing boxing gloves.

Joking aside, why is Jacob last? The second he claps he's teleported his victim to a dimension where he can kill them at his whim, plus he's got Stealth to get around any particularly resilient foes.

 

[Brandish μ]

Irene, August > DiMaria >= God Serena, Wahl >= Ajeel, Brandish >= Bradman, Jacob > Neinhart

I predict Larcade to be roughly Ajeel level and Invel to be 3rd strongest.

 

[The President]

Wahl gained an immunity/resistance to regular lightning because he had witnessed/experienced it before and was able to develop a counter over time. Laxuses red lightning is something he had never seen before (as he himself noted) and therefore he had no developed resistance to it. Stands to reason that the attack was super effective against him since its still lightning at the end of the day (just different lightning) and robots are weak to it. That said, Laxus himself was very handicapped with the illness and Wahls lightning resistance so Laxus is still a great deal stronger. That Etherion Cannon is really something though.

In regards to Jellal, GC isn't even one of his powerful techniques (Altairis, Sema, Abyss Break etc....) and he still managed to one-shot Neinhart with it. The location alteration also speaks volumes of his MP. Jellal is definitely up there powerwise. Quite possibly even stronger then Laxus.

In regards to the Spriggan rankings, its more or less not changed. I might put Brandish lower because I get the feeling that Hiro is establishing her as a support type (healer) rather then a wild combatant like some of her peers. August is still the strongest and Neinhart is the weakest. Gotta see Invel and Larcade in action to make a lock-in list. I'm assuming they will be around as strong if not stronger then Bradman, give or take (whom I view as the 3rd strongest Spriggan) based on the fact that they have been omitted from the story for so long (best for last as the saying goes), and Invel is Zerefs right-hand man. DiMaria, Jacob and Serena for most overrated Spriggan, cause many people use a generous amount of NLF with the first two and put too much stock in the GoI for the third.

PS. Natsu is hellofa underrated. Definitely Spriggan level. At Ajeel/Wahl/Serena level (average Spriggan) without FDKM and likely substantially higher with it.

 

[Kiki]

We should reconsider Jacob. I have other consideration material aside from Stealth and Transport, what is it? The crack on Fairy Heart. Jacob with his casual move was able to make the crystal crack and Mavis bleed. Something Cana can't do, even with Fairy Glitter. Yeah I know my comparison is Cana :P, but it did impress me.

Invel I'd give him the benefit of the doubt he is Zeref's right man and sensei saves him for last (nearly).

 

[Hermit]

I'm outside now, make sure you're wearing boxing gloves.

Joking aside, why is Jacob last? The second he claps he's teleported his victim to a dimension where he can kill them at his whim, plus he's got Stealth to get around any particularly resilient foes.

Sorry was just typing up a theory on the E.N.D thread haha so I couldn't respond immediately
So for Lessio being last, personally I believe its because while he has good hax, all the other Spriggan 12 members above him have shown remarkable speed feats, even faster than him, so he wouldn't exactly be given a chance to use his hax and get them in time.
Bradman has an intangible body so I'm not sure how Transport would work on him.
Although Stealth is a mighty fine ability I will admit, but personally, I think it falls a little short of the feats we've seen from the other Spriggan 12 members.
On another note, @ahmadrizqik holy shit love the new pic:O