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Gildarts has amazing speed feats.
Here is him moving several feat and attacking befitting Natsu even notices.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net..._attack.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140615221949

Theres a reason gildarts is never around. Because Hiro made him so op the arcs would be boring. Im not saying its hiros fault, thats how he intended Shanks to be. People seem to forget they modified all of magnolia because hes clumsy. Which means just by being a bit of a retard he can level an entire city.

He accidentally tripped on cracked an entire town. He freaking tripped on ACCIDENT!

He punched someone through an impregnable prison which is larger than a mountain and made a huge creator.
http://www.mangapanda.com/tale-of-fairy-ice-trail-koori-no-kiseki/4/25
Then he says Oops I didn't mean to hit him that hard. Like wtf!

"Poof speed" which is flash speed.
http://www.mangapanda.com/tale-of-fairy-ice-trail-koori-no-kiseki/4/14

Punches 13 dudes with one farm instantly.
http://www.mangapanda.com/tale-of-fairy-ice-trail-koori-no-kiseki/4/18

If you think Gildarts is incapable of replicating that feat, you are wrong. They may have been fodder, but it showcased his speed. Gildarts has casual mountain busting punches. If you combine those two, it means that Gildarts can throw out several mountain busting punches instantaneously. Gildarts is way faster.

He busted a mountain with one hand and wasn't even trying.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/14

Notice the trees and the river. Gildarts and Natsu aren't taller than trees or bigger than a river. Gildarts with own casual punch busted that entire area, the river got destroyed. If you see the next page, Gildarts facial expression tells me that he says hold up... Now come at me. He actually wanted to still fight Natsu after doing that. Insane! And the fact that trees are large and cover that mountain means a lot.

"Natsu beat Bluenote easily"

Gildarts had his magic stripped away from him.

"He exchanged blows"
Gildarts was not infusing crash with his punches, just regular ones. You know this because crash is white energy.

Natsu didn't fight Bluenote. He simply just attacked him before he had a chance to attack.

Feats. (Mod make this bold, idkhow)
Crash destroyed a HUGE mountain easily.
August spells not on mountain level can be canceled out with crash easily.
August unable to react to Brandish stabbing him showcases his speed. On the other hand, Gildarts was several feet back and was instantly in front of an enemy and attacking me before Natsu noticed.

So really, it doesn't mean jack sh*t if Gildarts runs faster than August and Irene and throws multiple mountain busting punches before they can react. Gildarts being the guy he is would never let that opportunity present itself.

And the magical presence of Gildarts could be felt by Lucy and Cana who were on the other side of Tenrojima. And Gildarts wasn't even using all of his power. That feat is more impressive than Mira being next to them. And btw, Natsu doesn't react the same way to August or Brandish. Nor does Lucy, it was because they just met. Mira always saw Gildarts.
1)See at the base of the image,mountains are shown being damaged.It is much above being mountain level.It might even come near island level.If this attack is used in Tenrou then 70-80 Percent of the island would be destroyed.
2)Mountain level is not much matter now as top tier fighters are now all mountain level.Just Natsu's aura in FDKM is mountain level.
3)Gildarts is no doubt fast but Bluenote was fast enough to keep up with him.And Gildarts couldn't one shot him.
4)Mira never commented that Gildarts's strength defies logic atleast i don't remember it.
 

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This idea that Gildarts didn't use any magic to fight Bluenote with is ridiculous. Gildarts was willing to use crash magic on the rocks, and sometimes even uses crash magic absent-mindedly walking around. In the first exchange with Natsu, he accidentally used crash magic because he didn't have time to hold back. There's absolutely no reason he would willingly choose to hold back when actuallly throwing hits against Bluenote, especially when it's confirmed that he was extremely angry with Bluenote.
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Ultear is still alive as an old lady. What we saw against Dimaria was merely a thought projection. Unless the thought projection is capable of something Ultear herself is not, then I don't see why arc of time wouldn't serve as a defense.

I do agree that August shouldn't have Chronos though. That doesn't necessarily mean his manipulation of time is weaker than Dimaria's though. He does have higher magical power.
I never saw a thought projection cracking like that.
And wasn't arc of time used for moving time of object back or forth.
Also are we sure ultear is still an old lady.

These things makes me question that.

Chronos is like a god of time or something right?
So its like fire dragon slayer compared to a fire mage. Fire mage sure can be stronger but fire dragon slayer should have a higher potential. Same reason why I think of Chrono's magic should be more potent.
 

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I never saw a thought projection cracking like that.
And wasn't arc of time used for moving time of object back or forth.
Also are we sure ultear is still an old lady.

These things makes me question that.

Chronos is like a god of time or something right?
So its like fire dragon slayer compared to a fire mage. Fire mage sure can be stronger but fire dragon slayer should have a higher potential. Same reason why I think of Chrono's magic should be more potent.
Well, it's probably because Ultear couldn't maintain it for very long. It is a thought projection though, or at least that was Dimaria's conclusion after she slashed at it. We can see Ultear as an old lady at the very end of the chapter after the fight against Dimaria.

Well, it depends on the dragon. I think it's entirely possible for mages like August to be stronger than a fire dragon like Atlas Flame. So a dragon slayer with Atlas Flame's magic wouldn't necessarily have a higher potential than August. When it comes to gods, we don't really know if Chronos' power level surpasses human limits. August doesn't really have to overpower Dimaria in his control over time either, and I'm not sure if that would really serve any purpose tbh. He just needs to make it enough so that he can move within Age Seal and turn this into an actual fight. If Ultear can do it, then I think August can.
 

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Well, it's probably because Ultear couldn't maintain it for very long. It is a thought projection though, or at least that was Dimaria's conclusion after she slashed at it. We can see Ultear as an old lady at the very end of the chapter after the fight against Dimaria.

Well, it depends on the dragon. I think it's entirely possible for mages like August to be stronger than a fire dragon like Atlas Flame. So a dragon slayer with Atlas Flame's magic wouldn't necessarily have a higher potential than August. When it comes to gods, we don't really know if Chronos' power level surpasses human limits. August doesn't really have to overpower Dimaria in his control over time either, and I'm not sure if that would really serve any purpose tbh. He just needs to make it enough so that he can move within Age Seal and turn this into an actual fight. If Ultear can do it, then I think August can.
Wow I missed that. So she still was an old lady
I would still say atlas flame is more control of flames then August even if August is stronger than him. Because flame wont hurt atlas but still hurt August. He is like more in with the element not because he is stronger but because of his unique magic. But yeah I do see your point and agree :)
 

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Well, it's probably because Ultear couldn't maintain it for very long. It is a thought projection though, or at least that was Dimaria's conclusion after she slashed at it. We can see Ultear as an old lady at the very end of the chapter after the fight against Dimaria.

Well, it depends on the dragon. I think it's entirely possible for mages like August to be stronger than a fire dragon like Atlas Flame. So a dragon slayer with Atlas Flame's magic wouldn't necessarily have a higher potential than August. When it comes to gods, we don't really know if Chronos' power level surpasses human limits. August doesn't really have to overpower Dimaria in his control over time either, and I'm not sure if that would really serve any purpose tbh. He just needs to make it enough so that he can move within Age Seal and turn this into an actual fight. If Ultear can do it, then I think August can.
You're pushing it! August magic is vast & diverse as he is given a kingly title, & his flames were powerful but hell to the no is he on same class as Atlas Flame.
 

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You're pushing it! August magic is vast & diverse as he is given a kingly title, & his flames were powerful but hell to the no is he on same class as Atlas Flame.
I don't understand why not? There were dragon slayers 400 years ago who would have had slayed dragons as strong and even stronger then Atlas Flame. Why is it impossible for August to be stronger then Atlas Fame? His fire attack was larger then anything any dragon has shown apart from maybe Acnologia/Igneel roars and it was so devastating that it injured Natsu despite him being a dragon slayer. Even someone like Silver managed to overpower a portion of Atlas Flames power, with a disadvantageous element at that. Motherglare, a dragon emphasized for its durability and who had been withstanding all of Atlas Flames attacks with little effort was basically one-shotted with an in-direct attack from Natsu (albeit with a boost from Atlas Flame), that Natsu wasn't that much stronger then Future Rogue, who in turn pales in comparison to Spriggans, let alone August.

If August had dragon slaying magic, he would dust Atlas Flame. I personally believe that he could defeat him even without it, but that's a little more debatable I suppose. As a matter of fact, most, if not all the Spriggan would defeat dragons if they had dragon slaying magic. That's the bare minimum, given that even GMG Wendy could at least phase one.

Dragon hype is unsubstantiated. Humans did survive, and according to Zeref good dragons were a big minority back in the day. I'm assuming what was the equivalent of Spriggan level power was the reason humans weren't completely wiped out by the bad dragons until the day good dragons and mages combined forces and went on the offensive. What is Atlas Flames best feat truly? Tanking Makarovs punch? He seems to be a much more defensive dragon then offensive one given that his roar is weak sauce so that's hardly impressive.
 

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You're pushing it! August magic is vast & diverse as he is given a kingly title, & his flames were powerful but hell to the no is he on same class as Atlas Flame.
In fact, that is extensively debatable. For all we know, August & Irene might well be above regular dragons and even some parent dragons.

After all, Irene picked up a fight against Acnologia and not only survived, but she did arguably well, whereas Acnologia has killed hundreds (thousands?) of dragons.

Also, Atlas Flame was frozen by Silver who's SUPER below Irene. But don't pay much attention to me on that, I don't remember if Atlas Flame was still a dragon when he was frozen or it was a reminiscence of himself...

In fact, in the communal ranking, August is above a regular dragon, although not by a huge margin:

1. Acnologia (64)

2. Igneel (62,7)

3. Parent Dragons (60,1)

4. Zeref Dragneel (58,6)

5. Igneel-powered Natsu (57,9)

6. August (56,15)

7. Irene Belserion (55,6)

8. Other Dragons (54,61)

9. Chronos Dimaria Yesta (54,4)

10. God Serena (53,89)

11. Laxus Dreyar (53,4)

12. Brandish (51,21)

13. Jellal Fernandes (50,79)

14. Wahl Icht (50,55)

15. Bradman (49,63)

16. Jacob Lessio (49,45)

17. Natsu (47,37)

18. DF Gajeel (47,1)

19. Glidartz Clive (44,53)

20. Ajeel Lamur (44,45)

21. DeS Gray Fullbuster (43,94)

22. Mirajane Strauss (41,67)

23. Neinhart (41,07)

24. Full Power Precht Gaebolt (40)

25. Erza Scarlet (39,18)

26. Hyberion (38,8)

27. Third origin Chelia Blendy (38,75)

28. Wolfheim (34,86)

29. Mard Geer Tartaros (33,87)

30. Base Gray Fullbuster (33,87)

31. Shaila (32,36)

32. Base Gajeel Redfox (32,08)

33. Ikatsunagi (31,93)

34. Jura Neekis (30,87)

35. Future Rogue (30,29)

36. Kyôka (30)

37. Kagura Mikazuchi (29,8)

38. Warrod Sequen (29,6)

39. Minerva Orlando (29,14)

40. DF Wendy Marvell (28,73)

41. Makarov Dreyar (28,4)

42. Silver Fullbuster (26,36)

43. Ur (25,86)

44. Bluenote Stinger (23,36)

45. Lucy Heartfilia (22,13)

46. Sting Eucliff or Rogue (21,79)

47. Azuma (19,14)

48. Wahl Icht Proxy (18,21)

49. Freed Justine (16,43)

50. Lyon Vastia (16)

51. Marin Hollow (15,71)

52. Juvia Lockster (14,79)

53. Meredy (14,5)

54. Heine Lunacy or Juliet Sun (13,85)

55. Elfman Strauss (12,07)

56. Base Wendy Marvell (11,43)

57. Chelia Blendy (10,85)

58. Bickslow (8,77)

59. Mest Gryder (8,71)

60. Cana Alberona (8,61)

61. Evergreen (7,61)

62. Ikaruga (7,43)

63. Levy Mcgarden (4,29)

64. Lisanna Strauss (2,86)
 
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Also, Atlas Flame was frozen by Silver who's SUPER below Irene. But don't pay much attention to me on that, I don't remember if Atlas Flame was still a dragon when he was frozen or it was a reminiscence of himself...
Atlas was already fading away when Silver froze him, keep in mind it was just his soul that was the Guardian Deity of Sun Village and not the full Dragon like what came out of the Eclipse Gate...also as soon as he was unfrozen he proceeded to unfreeze the entire village and that was with his dying will...so I'd put a healthy Atlas above Silver...
Regarding August and Atlas Flame...mmh, I'd put August above him now, by virtue of having more spells than the Hell Dragon, I think something in his arsenal could counter those flames...
 

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I don't understand why not? There were dragon slayers 400 years ago who would have had slayed dragons as strong and even stronger then Atlas Flame. Why is it impossible for August to be stronger then Atlas Fame? His fire attack was larger then anything any dragon has shown apart from maybe Acnologia/Igneel roars and it was so devastating that it injured Natsu despite him being a dragon slayer. Even someone like Silver managed to overpower a portion of Atlas Flames power, with a disadvantageous element at that. Motherglare, a dragon emphasized for its durability and who had been withstanding all of Atlas Flames attacks with little effort was basically one-shotted with an in-direct attack from Natsu (albeit with a boost from Atlas Flame), that Natsu wasn't that much stronger then Future Rogue, who in turn pales in comparison to Spriggans, let alone August.

If August had dragon slaying magic, he would dust Atlas Flame. I personally believe that he could defeat him even without it, but that's a little more debatable I suppose. As a matter of fact, most, if not all the Spriggan would defeat dragons if they had dragon slaying magic. That's the bare minimum, given that even GMG Wendy could at least phase one.

Dragon hype is unsubstantiated. Humans did survive, and according to Zeref good dragons were a big minority back in the day. I'm assuming what was the equivalent of Spriggan level power was the reason humans weren't completely wiped out by the bad dragons until the day good dragons and mages combined forces and went on the offensive. What is Atlas Flames best feat truly? Tanking Makarovs punch? He seems to be a much more defensive dragon then offensive one given that his roar is weak sauce so that's hardly impressive.
It's a massive stretch because you don't account for fundament reasons why those who bathe in flames all their lives -- Flame Dragons -- would be more special, more proficient & more potent than those who simply learn the flames -- August.

When August's flame is strong enough to literally burn magic as though it nullified it, maybe then I could consider him somewhat; but for now, it's a massive stretch to assume August is on par, let alone superior to Atlas Flame.

You said Natsu was injured by August but I don't see any injuries on him at all. The fact that not a hair of his pals & future wife was hurt also disapproves this assertion.

Finally, you mentioned Dragon Slayer's vs Dragons. I don't think much needs to be said about this other than Dragon Slayer's inherently having an advantage over Dragons.
 

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It's a massive stretch because you don't account for fundament reasons why those who bathe in flames all their lives -- Flame Dragons -- would be more special, more proficient & more potent than those who simply learn the flames -- August.

When August's flame is strong enough to literally burn magic as though it nullified it, maybe then I could consider him somewhat; but for now, it's a massive stretch to assume August is on par, let alone superior to Atlas Flame.

You said Natsu was injured by August but I don't see any injuries on him at all. The fact that not a hair of his pals & future wife was hurt also disapproves this assertion.

Finally, you mentioned Dragon Slayer's vs Dragons. I don't think much needs to be said about this other than Dragon Slayer's inherently having an advantage over Dragons.
I think there's a misunderstanding here. Everyone else is claiming that August OVERALL is stronger than Atlas Flame, while you seem to be comparing just the fire magic that both of them use. You guys are talking about different things here lmao
 

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Atlas was already fading away when Silver froze him, keep in mind it was just his soul that was the Guardian Deity of Sun Village and not the full Dragon like what came out of the Eclipse Gate...also as soon as he was unfrozen he proceeded to unfreeze the entire village and that was with his dying will...so I'd put a healthy Atlas above Silver...
Regarding August and Atlas Flame...mmh, I'd put August above him now, by virtue of having more spells than the Hell Dragon, I think something in his arsenal could counter those flames...
I see it this way. August is to Atlas Flame what Hiruzen is to Madara (Naruto). Both have flames, one is more versatile -- The Professor-- but the least versatile is more potent & proficient with his flames.
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I think there's a misunderstanding here. Everyone else is claiming that August OVERALL is stronger than Atlas Flame, while you seem to be comparing just the fire magic that both of them use. You guys are talking about different things here lmao
No misunderstanding. Read through what sharkai said about potency -- as he argues why it's a stretch to consider August being able to match Dimaria with his own -- assumed -- time magic.
 

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I see it this way. August is to Atlas Flame what Hiruzen is to Madara (Naruto). Both have flames, one is more versatile -- The Professor-- but the least versatile is more potent & proficient with his flames.
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No misunderstanding. Read through what sharkai said about potency -- as he argues why it's a stretch to consider August being able to match Dimaria with his own -- assumed -- time magic.
I don't really understand what August and Dimaria have to do with this, but from what I can tell no one else is trying to say that August's fire magic is more powerful than Atlas Flame's. They're just saying that overall as a mage August is stronger.
 

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I don't really understand what August and Dimaria have to do with this, but from what I can tell no one else is trying to say that August's fire magic is more powerful than Atlas Flame's. They're just saying that overall as a mage August is stronger.
It has everything to do with it.;)
 

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I think there's a misunderstanding here. Everyone else is claiming that August OVERALL is stronger than Atlas Flame, while you seem to be comparing just the fire magic that both of them use. You guys are talking about different things here lmao
Whether the level of Spriggans and Super spriggans (August/Irene) is above, equal or below to that of dragons is yet an unanswered question as we remain featless. August has only shown a laser beam and an arguably big nuke. I recall a nuke from Motherglare superior to August's but I hardly remember, besides I'm talking about the anime so maybe it was not as big. However, we can only rely on hype, and hype proclaims August as having 'MP which defies logic' (Mirajane, scared sh*tless with tears in her eyes) who actually fought a GMG dragon (Zirconis) and didn't seem scared in the least. So I'm inclined to think August is overall a tier/tiers above dragons. The community ranking has proven mangahelpers posters regard GMG dragons slightly above Spriggan level but slightly below Super spriggan level.
 

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This is anime filler bro, are you serious?



Dude was having trouble with Bluenote, if Hiro wanted him around he would have had him around. He's definitely not OP.



More like a small village. That's what it means to not have control over your power.



Bro, Ice Trail is ALSO not canon. Seriously.



Absolutely not. Even Jet has been shown to blitz fodder, you absolutely CANNOT use blitzing fodder as a measuring stick for how fast Gildarts is.



Damaged would be a better word. And he was most certainly trying, he was downright bloodlusted.



Bluenote was still putting up a fight both before and after Gildarts magic was stripped away.



Natsu destroyed Bluenote in every sense of the word. Not debatable.



Augusts spell was far grander then a mountain, it was so grand that despite being a fire-type attack Natsu did not come out of it completely unharmed. Someone who has immense resistance to fire. Crash ain't doing shit.



Your feats are non-canon and filler and performed on fodder on top of it. Not valid at all. Brandish stabbed an August that was completely caught off-guard from point blank range, the evidence you are using here is simply not valid to put it in light terms my friend.



Nah mate, even Bluenote reacted to these lightning fast punches you speak of. Irene was tango'ing with Acnologia himself, please stop.



Gildarts magic power is an absolute and utter joke compared to that of August and Irene. Heck, its an absolute and utter joke compared to any of the regular Spriggan. Have we seriously forgotten that Natsu has jumped dimensions in power since he was last scared of Gildarts MP? Him being frightened of Brandishes and Augusts MP NOW is FAR FAR FAR more impressive then him being scared shitless of Gildarts MP BACK ON TENROU. Stop it. Furthermore we have characters like Mira downright crying in the presence of August/Irene, saying their MP defies reason.

Also, the reason people are acting like August and Irene are light years above the other Spriggan is because they are. And it hasn't came from a single source either. Mest, Natsu, Mirajane, Makarov, Brandish, Zeref and even Acnologia have acknowledged just how powerful these characters are. The fact that you are trying to drive home that GILDARTS of all power is above them does surprise, alas, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I'm simply contesting the poor evidence presented.
Kotsh and Ice trail are both cannon. You need to do your research bud. And dude you're making sh*t up.
"Bluenote was reacting to Gildarts"

The last punch showcased Gildarts speed. After destroying his black hole, he was already several meters back. He was so fast his arm was already under his jaw. That punch was strong enough to divide the clouds and stop the storm on tenro.

"Jet blitz fodder"
Gildarts blitz fodder but the fact that he can throw mountain busting punches is the reason why.

"Brandish stabbed August by surprise"
A Mage on his level should be ready for anything. But that wasn't the case for him wasn't it? And Brandish has ZERO speed feats bud and he couldn't even react to that. Gildarts would blitz August, end of story bud.

Show me evidence where it says Irene and August are "far far stronger" than the rest. Well because I read it was a bit more.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/487/6
Dude how can anyone take you serious when your pulling sh*t from your ass? Seriously.

"Natsu was hurt by his spell"
How that was compare to a mountain busting feat? Natsu negated the magic, do you even read official translations bud? Lol nice try.

"Gildarts was blood lusted"
Oh that's why the next panel he was smiling. Totally blood lusted right? Yeah bud, get out of here.

"Irene fought Acnologia"
Gildarts said it happened in a flash. Irene is protected by plot, she wouldn't been ripped in half by now. And the fact that Gildarts survived that showcased his durability.

"Crash isn't doing nothing anything"
Um idk what book you're reading but Crash busted a mountain and the user wasn't trying. August' spell wasn't mountain level and Gildarts can't break that? Lol bud.
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1)See at the base of the image,mountains are shown being damaged.It is much above being mountain level.It might even come near island level.If this attack is used in Tenrou then 70-80 Percent of the island would be destroyed.
2)Mountain level is not much matter now as top tier fighters are now all mountain level.Just Natsu's aura in FDKM is mountain level.
3)Gildarts is no doubt fast but Bluenote was fast enough to keep up with him.And Gildarts couldn't one shot him.
4)Mira never commented that Gildarts's strength defies logic atleast i don't remember it.
Those rocks are not mountains. Are you joking?
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/487/6
The first panel shows those "mountains" you speak of lol.

Natsu is not mountain level. I already explain this bud Natsu used Igneels flames against the God of War. I'm not repeating myself so you have to find my post.

Natsus aura is FDKM level"" what does that even mean?

It seems you don't bother to read my post entirely. Lucy and Natsu and even Mest don't react to Brandish magical power anymore becsuse they simply been around her for so long. Gildarts has been seeing Mirajane since she was a girl.
 

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Kotsh and Ice trail are both cannon. You need to do your research bud. And dude you're making sh*t up.
"Bluenote was reacting to Gildarts"

The last punch showcased Gildarts speed. After destroying his black hole, he was already several meters back. He was so fast his arm was already under his jaw. That punch was strong enough to divide the clouds and stop the storm on tenro.

"Jet blitz fodder"
Gildarts blitz fodder but the fact that he can throw mountain busting punches is the reason why.

"Brandish stabbed August by surprise"
A Mage on his level should be ready for anything. But that wasn't the case for him wasn't it? And Brandish has ZERO speed feats bud and he couldn't even react to that. Gildarts would blitz August, end of story bud.

Show me evidence where it says Irene and August are "far far stronger" than the rest. Well because I read it was a bit more.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/487/6
Dude how can anyone take you serious when your pulling sh*t from your ass? Seriously.

"Natsu was hurt by his spell"
How that was compare to a mountain busting feat? Natsu negated the magic, do you even read official translations bud? Lol nice try.

"Gildarts was blood lusted"
Oh that's why the next panel he was smiling. Totally blood lusted right? Yeah bud, get out of here.

"Irene fought Acnologia"
Gildarts said it happened in a flash. Irene is protected by plot, she wouldn't been ripped in half by now. And the fact that Gildarts survived that showcased his durability.

"Crash isn't doing nothing anything"
Um idk what book you're reading but Crash busted a mountain and the user wasn't trying. August' spell wasn't mountain level and Gildarts can't break that? Lol bud.
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Those rocks are not mountains. Are you joking?
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/487/6
The first panel shows those "mountains" you speak of lol.

Natsu is not mountain level. I already explain this bud Natsu used Igneels flames against the God of War. I'm not repeating myself so you have to find my post.

Natsus aura is FDKM level"" what does that even mean?

It seems you don't bother to read my post entirely. Lucy and Natsu and even Mest don't react to Brandish magical power anymore becsuse they simply been around her for so long. Gildarts has been seeing Mirajane since she was a girl.
Not gonna respond to the rest of your points just yet cause I don't have time, but there's no way in hell Gildarts only used a casual punch to destroy the mountain.

http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/417/13

Does that facial expression look casual to you? He even has veins popping out of his face.
 

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