Have you ever heard of NLF? I agree with some of the points you're saying, but implying that hax is ALWAYS above raw power is ridiculous. With logic like that, people like Mira or Dimaria would be ranked higher than someone like Acnologia....
I'd make an argument that Base Gajeel is comparable to Erza, he certainly has the durability and endurance to stand up to her.
I think you can make a very good argument. Base Gajeel in his normal state, is a pretty good tank, he actually has much better durability than Erza, because Erza uses defensive armors rather than her physical body to take on most attacks of worth. Endurance wise, they are comparable. His feats are impressive in that regard.
Pretty interested to see how Gildartz is going to be ranked when he's done with all of the feats he may have gained in the battle with Serena. I hope he impresses, and shows more speed movement feats. I want him to be faster than what he displayed against Bluenote.
It's mostly plot hole because she was still effected by the gas mask as you said, and the combination of how the plot is moving, since Mashima didn't want to risk both Levy and Gajeel to be in peril danger of dying.
Not only that Base Gajeel has good attack power, his roar was essentially able to stalemate Bradman's roar. Anything above Base for Gajeel should be a clear win in his favour.
Gajeel's roar which is not his strongest move stalemated a Bradman roar, that's pretty much stronger than anything Erza has bar Nakagami. ISD Gajeel and Steel Gajeel should be handily above Erza in terms of attack power and don't get me started on DF Gajeel.
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Though most people aren't saying that but you must understand, erza is destined to become a fodder. So like gejeel, levy might surpass erza too.
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Depends how strong you think the roar Gajeel used and Bradman's Rage were. I wasn't exactly impressed by them. Certainly not close to Natsu's, and not enough for me to put Gajeel at Erza level bar Nakagami.
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Gajeel is the only capable of taking down Erza despite her amazing speed feats. She is immune to Laxus and Natsu's magic with her armor. I doubt she has armor that will make her immune to iron/metal but in strength she ranks above him.
But luckily Bradman has Macro, Sensation Curse and Tenchi Kaimei as an alternative.
Lol.
Yes I've heard of that 'argument'. But I'm afraid Macro does work on Erza..
I wouldn't rank Natsu and Gray with Laxus, the only person in that tier should be Erza. Her armors grant the advantage/win for the fight. Natsu may have a large AOE but that doesn't matter because you're not* hitting multiple opponents.
How is Gajeel above erza in raw strenght. I don't even remember if Gajeel has ever one shot anyone who wasn't pure fodder.I do think that in term of raw power gajeel is stronger than erza , but In other aspects I think they're pretty much the same. Erza durability is impressive and definitely above gajeel ( despite the bs of the fight with demon , it's a facts that erza have higher durability )
I'm not that impress with erza nakagami armor anymore , we have seen she use the armor In this arc and it's still not strong enough to defeat ajeel ( if she can use it much more longer instead of just a few second I might puts her above gajeel )
Erza plot armor (nakagami) is proven can't one shot everyone and she can use it just for a few second . While gajeel In his base form is already impressive . His other form is beyond impressive .( awesome maybe?
I think they're both pretty much equal if we combine their durability strength whatsoever . I would puts erza the same level as gajeel .
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If he uses those two curses than Brademen can beat Gajeel plus laxusBut luckily Bradman has Macro, Sensation Curse and Tenchi Kaimei as an alternative.
Lol.
Yes I've heard of that 'argument'. But I'm afraid Macro does work on Erza..
@Medkaradaraba @Crimson Ice I agree with both of you. Base Gajeel should be above Erza mostly due to his Iron Shadow Dragon Mode. I'd even say he is stronger without it just because his Karma Demon Divine Iron Sword is more impressive than any attack Erza has shown. Once DF is included, it would be a straight win for Gajeel.
Just because Erza has a resistance (I doubt it's a complete immunity) to Natsu and Laxus's magic doesn't mean that she's above them. All it means is that she has the advantage when she's fighting those two. It's like Gray versus Mard Geer. Gray was able to beat him because he had the elemental advantage, but in no way does that suggest that Tartaros Gray was stronger than Mard. Or TO Chelia against Dimaria. Was she stronger than Dimaria? Of course not. The only reason Chelia was able to beat her was because she had the advantage with her God slaying magic.
It's said that her fire armour has 50% resistance. With this armour she'd do alright against Natsu. The lightning empress armor also has resistance... but Laxus has Red Lightning so...
Where is your evidence for any of this? You can't say "well I think Gajeel's roar is stronger than Erza's nakagami armor which allows to literally distort space in your eye range"
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