This isn't a matter of Natsu's eating Jackal's attacks, it's a matter of them affecting him if they land, and those explosions were landing some serious damage, a town based explosion would have seriously affected Natsu.
Considering the fact that Jackal spent a good portion of the fight trying to talk to Natsu instead of actually engaging him in actual combat, it's pretty obvious that Jackal was pretty much taking it lightly.
Getting back up...from unconsciousness? Dude Natsu was completely knocked out from those explosions, Jackal was effectively the winner
First of all, there are 2 different types of explosions here. The first is the type of explosions that Jackal throws at his targets. These ones can be tanked the same way any other nuke can be tanked. The second is the explosion that comes when Jackal touches you. He gives you curse markings, and turns your body itself into a bomb. Natsu has never received any damage from an explosion that Jackal threw at Natsu, and Natsu has never received any damage from the explosions of Jackal's etherious form punches. The only time Natsu gets damage by Jackal is when he touches him, and doesn't eat the explosions. Which means the only chance Jackal has of dealing any damage to Natsu is reliant on Natsu touching him, and forgetting to eat. When Wendy says that those explosions are too much for Natsu to handle, she is referring to the last one that Natsu forgot to eat. The only reason Natsu was even damaged by this explosion afterwards was because he forgot to eat it.This isn't a matter of Natsu's eating Jackal's attacks, it's a matter of them affecting him if they land, and those explosions were landing some serious damage, a town based explosion would have seriously affected Natsu.
Even Wendy and Lucy admitted that those explosions were too much for Natsu to handle, that already shows that if the town exploded, everyone there would have died.
Considering the fact that Jackal spent a good portion of the fight trying to talk to Natsu instead of actually engaging him in actual combat, it's pretty obvious that Jackal was pretty much taking it lightly.
Getting back up...from unconsciousness? Dude Natsu was completely knocked out from those explosions, Jackal was effectively the winner
Gildarts casually busted a mountain, something that August nuke wasn't even the size of. Gildarts has casual mountain busting punches and flash speed feats. Combine those two and August and Irene get blitz. And Irene dodged an attack that could be seen from a mile away. She didn't move to another position instantly like Gildarts did. Gildarts said he fought the black dragon while Irene 'fought' Acnologia. All she did was teleport him after pushing him back two feet. Natsu and the dragon slayers moved him in Dragon form a lot more bud.
Natsu had already beaten Jackal at that point, so no he wasn't occupied. Also, it takes quite a while for Jackal's curse markings to kick in. Also, even if he ate the explosions from the hands he would have cut down the damage by two-thirds. Also, this series of explosions didn't knock him out. The first series did, but Natsu touched Jackal way more times.That doesn't change anything tbh, Natsu already figured out the trick to eat it when he came to fight Jackal the second timeThe only reason that Natsu didn't eat the explosions, is that he was too occupied beating up Jackal's Etherious form and he didn't have time to react to the Curse Markings. Also do you honestly think he would have eaten the explosions on his legs? His hands are one thing, but he wouldn't be able to eat the explosions on his legs, and we know he kicked Jackal in his Etherious form.
Natsu didn't forget to eat anything, he simply couldn't since he was occupied with beating Jackal, and at the end of the day, those explosions were still powerful enough to knock him out
Yeah because Jackal won't just make the rock explode immediately it touches him
Kinda reaching there now manFully powered Jackal? No, it won't take him out, why are you downplaying Jackal's durability like this?The fact that Natsu had to resort to using LFD as a finishing move and not outright use it in the middle of the fight like he did with Mard Geer already shows that Jackal has amazing durability, plus he can easily just blow away the roar, he uses explosions to defend and guard against magic
Yes, and have all his long range attacks negated, yes? Jackal would easily defend against long range attacks
No, he won't, because he doesn't even make Natsu explode after immediately touching him. Plus, Natsu can always lift another rock.Yeah because Jackal won't just make the rock explode immediately it touches him
Natsu used LFD Iron Hammer against Jackal because that was all he needed to use against Jackal. Natsu used the exact same attack he used against Jackal that he used against Mard Geer, and then later went on to use Dragon Force and another dragon slaying secret art. That just goes to show you that LFD Firing Hammer isn't by any means an exhaustive move on Natsu's part. Something like LFD roar would easily do just as much damage as LFD Firing Hammer. LFD Firing Hammer isn't even Natsu's strongest LFD attack. Crimson Lotus Exploding Lightning Blade is.Fully powered Jackal? No, it won't take him out, why are you downplaying Jackal's durability like this?The fact that Natsu had to resort to using LFD as a finishing move and not outright use it in the middle of the fight like he did with Mard Geer already shows that Jackal has amazing durability, plus he can easily just blow away the roar, he uses explosions to defend and guard against magic
Huge difference between Wendy's and Lucy's attacks and Natsu's LFD roar. Besides, just think about it. Jackal is blowing up Wendy's winds with an explosion. How is adding an explosion in the middle of a ball of fire and lightning going to negate it? If anything, adding an explosion to the roar is only going to make it stronger. Jackal would literally be adding to the heat. Base Natsu's roar can completely engulf DF Rogue's roar, and DF Rogue's roar is more impressive than base Wendy's roar. Right off the bat, there's no reason to assume that what Jackal did is impressive at all.
Well, the same persons who says Natsu can't solo Jacob also says that current Natsu isn't stronger than Jackal. Pick your roll.Natsu wasn't stronger than Jackal during the Tartaros arc at all and he probably isn't now either. Saying he is is just like saying he could solo Jacob.
Exactly what could Natsu have done if Wendy wasn't there to save him? What would've happened if Happy didn't save Natsu from Jackal's suicide spell? Yeah, he would've been a dead man if he didn't receive support on the way. It's just a fact, accept the truth
Think about it.
And what would've happned if Porlyusica didn't save Laxus from Tempesta's posion? Yeah, he also would have been a dead man. In other words with your logic one could say that Tempesta is stronger than Laxus despite him getting one shot.Natsu wasn't stronger than Jackal during the Tartaros arc at all and he probably isn't now either. Saying he is is just like saying he could solo Jacob.
Exactly what could Natsu have done if Wendy wasn't there to save him? What would've happened if Happy didn't save Natsu from Jackal's suicide spell? Yeah, he would've been a dead man if he didn't receive support on the way. It's just a fact, accept the truth
Uh what? She healed Natsu and his scarf completely on Tenrou Island after his fight with Zancrow, Wendy has healed completely, she healed Erza's poisoned arm against Cobra in Oracion Seis and many other examples
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He means Tartaros arc fam, current Natsu is obviously stronger but in Tartaros he was weaker, he couldn't take any of the 9 Demon Gates one on one
If Natsu had known about Jackals curse from the beginning he never would have gotten knocked out in the first place. He would have just eaten the explosion and he would have been alright. The only reason he got knocked out was because he was taken by surprise and that he knew nothing about the bomb curse prior to that moment.Natsu wasn't stronger than Jackal during the Tartaros arc at all. Saying he is is just like saying he can solo Jacob.
Exactly what could Natsu have done if Wendy wasn't there to save him? What would've happened if Happy didn't save Natsu from Jackal's suicide spell? Yeah, he would've been a dead man if he didn't receive support on the way. It's just a fact, accept the truth
He said "and he probably isn't NOW either". That's what I was responding to. When I look back at his post now it seems like he edited that part out (which probably means that he was joking).
Natsu still had injuries after healing against Jackal. He still had injuries after healing against Zancrow as well, and Wendy didn't even end up healing him. She just purified his scarf. Removing poison isn't exactly the same thing as healing all injuries. I've never seen Wendy heal someone to the point where they were without a single injury in the same way Zeref can heal himself. Even if she had and I missed it, the most important thing is that she certainly didn't do so for Natsu.
But it was.
Tartaros Glidartz casually busted a mountain, doesn't mean he can bust mountains casually as in, an array of mountain busting punches.
So, you're Mashima to tell us about that move mechanisms... could it be seen from a mile away, or from 1759 meters?
That was not even shown in the main Fairy Tail manga but on a spinoff, plus you're comparing PRE TENROU Glidartz to Irene...
Glidartz didn't even fight, he didn't even blink and he was ripped off. Irene did fight him though. Also, comparing pre tenrou Glidartz to Irene after the massive power inflation...
That wasn't even canon
Uh, he'd obviously move out of the way? That or use Explosive Helix to blow it away, or the town level explosion he used when he first encountered Natsu and Lucy in Michello's house...
The same way he moved out of the way of Natsu's other attacks? Keep in mind that the roar I showed was from prior to Natsu receiving second origin. Natsu's roar at the Tartarus arc would have been more powerful, and was indeed shown to be much wider.
