That's pretty agreeable, but Ajeel also has sand dehydration which is fairly useful. I expected more from Invel, I'm thinking of him as an ice version of Ajeel tbh, in terms of power.
True. I do agree that Invel and Ajeel probably have the same type of overall combat skill with their element. Ajeel's Sandword is better than Invel's Blizzard to me. But Invel's divine raiment is better than Ajeel's other offensive spells... rest is similar.
I'm not necessarily saying Gray is better than Erza. But he is definitely not below her in terms of power.
Your first point is completely invalid, if we take into account the fact that Ice Lock alone was enough to turn Gray into a defenseless puppy. His bloodlust stems from the fact that Juvia sacrificed herself so that he could live on, so the outcome would've been different if she wasn't there. He probably wouldn't have entered such a state of his own accord, and would've most likely lost the fight. Like I said, Ice Lock is a pretty broken spell; the only one that Gray was unable to overcome, other than commiting suicide. So this wasn't Gray's victory alone; Gray won because of Juvia's intervention.
His fight with Rufus was the exception to the rule, but you cannot deny the fact that his fights always involve opponents with ice magic, so I disagree with your second point as well. To say Gray has the "most diverse" fights in the series is ludicrous, honestly.
You're not the only one (because I've seen many people say this) but there seems to be a confusion here. Ice Lock is a type of magic that only works on two people. This means if Juvia was never there to begin with, Gray wouldn't have to deal with this sort of problem. So the outcome would indeed be different. But not in the way that Gray would lose this fight...
No, it is not "ludicrous". Gray is the only character thus far who hasn't had repetitive fights.
Oh, yeah? Who did Invel bind Mavis to? Because last time I checked, she was also Ice Lock'd and she was alone with Irene in the room.
I fail to see how fighting Ice mages over and over again is something new...
It doesn't make my point any less valid. Laxus, Erza and all the others who took down Spriggans did not start with a big advantage like Gray did, hence why I said it is hard to compare his power to his peers, because he was granted another easy win here.
Well, to be fair, it was because his Historia do not work on Erza and he is definitely the weakest out of the bunch lol.I mean, Titania already has two Spriggan fights under her belt, one of which admitted he can't do shit to her.
Even Irene was afraid that Neinhart's power wouldn't be enough to fight Erza, so she had to enhance his power so that he could annihilate the fairy queen.
Coming from the second strongest Spriggan, that pretty much speaks for itself. So yeah, Gray is definitely staring at Erza's back right now.
That was Ice Slave. I still don't know where people on this forum are getting these information from...
If fighting ice mages is why you called Gray's fights repetitive, what about Erza? She fought many sword users like Ikaruga, Erza Knightwalker, Kagura, and more. How about Natsu? He fought many mages who utilized fire/explosions like Totomaru, Zancrow, Jackal, Tempesta, etc.
No, Gray had little impact on this fight. I think it was made pretty clear that Lyon was the main contestant here.
LMAO its not supposed to do damage, is that really your argument? Its a utility move meant to blind Ajeels enemies while he gets free-will within the SW. It also gives nigh omniscience as he could assimilate into the sand.
Ajeels sand moves all have different utilities. He doesn't have many moves that are meant to do brunt damage. Sand Pit can pretty much OHKO anyone who doesn't have any explosive type attacks or can fly. That includes powerful characters like the GoI and even Spriggan like Jacob.
He activated his etherious form. Wahl did not activate his assault mode. The two should be roughly equal in boost, one used it the other did not. Its REALLY not that hard to understand.
Nope. I don't think you understand what being immune to something means. @Axiomus Summed it up extremely well, from what I read in your debate with him you seemed to be borderline denying facts so I don't bother touching on this further.
Yes it does. Your in denial. Wahls body absorbs lightning and converts it into power. Laxuses lightning coat(s) enhance HIS OWN BODY, they do not damage someone elses. Lightning coat is proof of this. The fact that Laxus CONTINUES coating his punches in lightning even after he is told lightning is useless against Wahl is also PROOF of that.
Erza and Gajeel did. Erza fought Ajeel while he was on a flying ship rendering him unable to use his big AOE moves while Gajeel was immune to Bradman's death particles. Gray's resistance to ice let him escape insant freeze but his DeS advantage never came into play and was only mentioned when it was moot anyway.
Yeah, they do have a counter. Natsu can eat his opponent's flames and gain power. Erza might not have a direct counter but she has PoF on her side.
I disagree. A fight is fair as long as there were no unexplained feats or Nakama Power involved. Gray having a counter to ice mages is like how God Slayers have a counter to Dragon Slayers of the same element. Let's stop using these excuses to justify that Everyone Else > Gray.
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Erza had the elemental advantage against Azir and still lost, that's way better than Gray's resistance to Ice in the fight against Invel since Gray's ice advantage wasn't enough to carry him through the whole battle while Erza dominated Ajeel for a good while with Sea Empress and Wind God Armor
I don't see how that is relevant; both spells have the same effect: they suppress the target's will. If Gray was alone, Invel could simply subdue him with Ice Slave.
Yes, but 99% of Gray's fights involve Ice. I mean, the only opponent he ever faced that didn't involve ice (as far as I can recall) was Mard Geer. If we are talking about Natsu and Erza specifically, they have far more fights on their counter than Gray, and more diverse opponents, too. So yes, Gray fights are indeed repetitive.
Is that why both Gray and Lyon were having their ass whooped by their former master, for a short period of time? You're probably going to say that Gray was warming up lol
Erza used logic to defeat Midnight, not because she had some natural resistance to him. She simply used an armor that would make her invulnerable to his magic. Wahl was vulnerable to lightning? He admitted that lightning didn't work on him... And you are calling me biased. :/
Because pof.
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Which aoe move.
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Erza fight was very complicated
Not really, Gray owned Invel in CQC then proceeded to mold his Ice the same way he did against Doriate, it really isn't POF