Saying it's super-effectiveness is much more appropriate than saying Wall has poor durability. I'm still not certain if Red Lightning is super-effective, but I think that line of thinking is well rounded and is supported logically, from canon stipulations/comments about Wall's immunity and Red Lightning.
If I'm understanding RL's proposed super-effectiveness this is my analogy for it...
- Wall's Body is metal. If his body conducts electricity it takes heavy damage/fries circuits
- Wall's immunity is like a perfect insulator.
- Laxus' regular lightning cannot breach the insulator
- Red Lightning is a magical entity that has electric properties and can breach the insulation
That's the problem I have. Red Lightning does not have any electrical properties that can breach the insulator. It is simply just like lightning.
The only possible difference with Red Lightning from regular lightning is the color and the voltage of the lightning.
The lightning is just plain stronger, there is no "different form" of lightning. Lightning has only one form. Lightning is lightning regardless of what color or the strength of it.
Wall's durability is at least better than Invel's in my view. Gray - with bare fists - was able to bust Invel's face. Wall had no problem with Laxus' blows, despite the physical power in them. Even if you say 'lightning immunity' that doesn't take away the physical impact (you know this because Wall thrust around several times). If anything, he took Laxus' bare-fisted punches without a scratch.
Not really.
While it's true that Invel sustained injuries and Wahl did not, that does not define durability.
That's just the nature of their physical body.
Invel has skin, naturally, that would bruise and bleed more than Wahl.
Wahl is made of metal, so injuries don't show themselves on his body.
However, the damage transferred is still the same.
Invel lasted a lot
longer than Wahl (without immunity) did in battle.
That means that Invel is a lot more
durable than Wahl (without immunity) in a battle.
So that means that
Invel's durability is higher than Wahl.
By your logic, that would mean that
Wahl has higher durability than Laxus and Natsu.
And do you really believe that is true? No, I'm sure you think Laxus and Natsu have higher durability than Wahl.
Damage on your skin doesn't measure durability.
How long you last in a battle (of course without immunities) measure your durability.
Gajeel's iron body and Wall's machina body aren't necessarily the same. Sure Gajeel can make his body metallic, but he'd still be flesh and bone under the magic. Wall is metal (we've seen him broken into pieces so we know), and his constitution is described as weak to electricity. And lets not forget that Red Lightning and FF Heavenly Halberd are different spells. The amount of power put into RL might just be so much that a S12 of Wall's level cannot tank it.
I beg to differ.
Gajeel's lungs are made of iron, that is exactly why he can ingest poison like MBPs and still survive.
Despite his human anatomy, he still has iron all throughout his body, even the piercings on his face.
If any lightning ever struck Gajeel's lungs, it would be a vital organ, and would be even more super-effective.
Unlike Wahl, Gajeel has ZERO immunity to lightning and does not even have an insulator to assist him in absorbing lightning.
If anybody has it lucky, it's Wahl... Wahl has way more defensive capabilities, systems, and barriers against lightning than Gajeel.
If Gajeel can tank multiple lightning attacks from Laxus without any sort of insulator within his body, then Wahl should have absolutely NO EXCUSE to tank 1 hit from Laxus.
Wahl's durability just sucks according to feats.
I also have a feeling people are disagreeing with me because they think I'm bashing Wahl.
To clarify my stance in case anybody is confused, Wahl is one of my favorite Spriggans and I hold him in high regards for his impressive offensive stats and capabilities.
Unlike Ajeel, Neinhart, and Jacob, I DO NOT call Wahl a fodder. He is far from that actually.
I put him on Bloodman and Invel's level and I think that all 3 of those Spriggans are one of the best we've seen up to date.
But you guys can't deny that Wahl lacks durability. Feats show and prove it.
My opinion of Wall's durability/body is that it doesn't act like humans. It's harder than flesh, so to make a scratch you'd probably need to hit it harder. His body can probably crack and dent, where a human would bruise/bleed badly. So it might not be correct for me to say his durability is superior to Invel's, it might just be that Wall's durability shouldn't be compared to a humans. Perhaps, like a metal under stress/strain, it doesn't really deform until it reaches critical points where it becomes plastic/breaks. << my attempt at remembering materials.
This pretty much goes along with my explanation on the second section of this post.
My argument to this is basically the same as Invel and Wahl's durability up above.
And how comparing injuries would also be saying that Wahl has higher durability than Laxus and Natsu.
