She only used a Yagdo Rigora spell, it's not like she actually summoned the god himself.
Natsu two-shotted an ENHANCED Neinhart, not a restricted one. Irene made Neinhart MORE POWERFUL Simple as that, that alone proves Natsu is Spriggan tier.
He couldnt do much against Lessio because he was holding back tremendously. If he had gone FDKM from the beginning who knows how things would have turned out.
That's just a visual effect, it's not representative of what's actually going on. It's like when Natsu uses a spell and Igneel shows up in the background. Does that mean he summons Igneel?The god literally appears next to her.
WTF LMAO Romeo wasn't in Tenrou...are you seriously going to use this argument?
Um, that doesn't change anything, I'm using Base Natsu as the template here because he was in base in the Guild Hall, and also when he fought Neinhart.
Did I ever say he wasn't S12 tier?
Who cares if Romeo was on Tenrou or not? What does that even matter? When people refer to Tenrou they aren't talking about the island itself, they're referring to the time period.
No. Hundreds of people. The AoE doesn't change.
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Given how hard of a time Erza had Historia like Azuma, I highly doubt it. Wendy hasn't done anything that suggests she could oneshot Bluenote, much less do it whilst carrying Chelia in one arm.
Jesus man, you're really splitting hairs with this argument, my original point was that BlueNote wasn't stronger than his Tenrou self, and everyone else was stronger than their Tenrou selves, so anyone from the current time period could take him on..period.
Yes I'm well aware that that was your original point. Im saying that your logic makes no sense.
AOE=/=Damage
Because she wasn't at full health? Plus she was being ganged up on, in a one on one she completely destroys Azuma
Uh, her DF attacks? She was able to toss around the largest member of the Nine Demon Gates in Tartaros and destroy him plus FACE, so BlueNote really couldn't stand all those attacks
Okay, how is this relevant to the argument? Semantics much?
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Assumptions have no bearing in this argument, come talk to me when you have proof from the manga that Romeo is stronger than he was in Tenrou
1) Another exaggeration by Invel. Ice Lock can obviously be disabled before the victim dies. Neither Juvia nor Gray are actualy dead. Weakness bots themselves are fairly weak.
Ah yes, the ol' "It's weak because it was used on fodder" argument, yet Demolition Fist (another FDK spell) can oneshot spriggans. To say that Natsu's FDK Roar can't achieve a similar result as Demolition Fist would be saying that FDK Roar is vastly inferior to it, despite them being in the same class of spells.
NLF, unless you believe that Invel is the strongest being in the verse.Did you seriously said Natsu can burn through Ice Lock with his body heat? Do you even understand the capabilities of Ice Lock?
It can only be disabled once the victim dies. And if you're still not convinced, then why didn't Juvia use her water body to escape it?
His body heat isn't going to affect Transport, it's going to affect Jacob and if Mirajane's cleavage can prevent the guy from casting transport, I highly doubt that Natsu's body heat (which can be raised really quickly and can make him recoil) will fail.
Again with the NLF. Does this mean that Wahl is stronger than human Acnologia?
So because Tartaros Natsu couldn't ignite his fire while submerged in Tenchi Kaimei, that means that current Natsu, who can passively evaporate a lake, can't as well?
BluePegasus, I honestly thought that after chapter 500 you'd finally admit that Natsu is spriggan tier. The guy twoshotted an amped up spriggan and amazed Brandish with his power (she even stated that he was a threat to them) yet you still vehemently believe that he isn't. Your baism is starting to reach new heights man.
What a pathetic excuse. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Are you telling me that if I provide proof that Romeo improved then you'll admit he can take on Bluenote?
Lisanna didn't take down hundreds of people in one attack. FDK roar has the AoE capable of hitting a bunch of people at once, and should be no weaker than other FDK attacks like demolition fist. Or at least the flames should. It should be like the same difference between iron fist and a regular roar. Either way, it should deal more damage than a basic punch. A basic punch was what it took to take down Neinhart.
That's because Juvia saved Gray from the death with her Blood Transfusion Magic. Are you really going to keep up ignoring manga facts?
So I guess Natsu can defeat Wall without using magic? Do you actually know what you sound like now?
Yeah just ignore my whole argument, what a debating skills.3) Yes, he is. Neinhart literally said that this power surpasses the limits of his own magic. Neinharts winds can cut up Brandish and Dimaria. Wendy's feats aren't even as impressive as Lucy's.
Dude..
Who says Ajeel is standing in the area where Natsu uses a spell?
Neinhart himself says his Historia Magic will never reach this level.It is not said by Axiomus but by Neinhart himself and it is canon.Natsu defeated 2 Spriggans and you still can't accept it.When will you accept.When he oneshots Zeref?Which we know is impossible.That's because Juvia saved Gray from the death with her Blood Transfusion Magic. Are you really going to keep up ignoring manga facts?
So I guess Natsu can defeat Wall without using magic? Do you actually know what you sound like now?
Yeah just ignore my whole argument, what a debating skills.
So according to you Neinhart's Wind Magic is > Historia of Corpses?
Dude..
Who says Ajeel is standing in the area where Natsu uses a spell?
@Axiomus @Shoutmon @Lexusflame @atomic_2000 @natsulucy The five of you have no right to call me biased as long as you can't refute the arguments of my statement about Natsu not being a Spriggan tier.
So just stfu.