Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Char]

Well, this is where we disagree then.

I don't think there is a way for Gildartz to gauge Serena's full power if he doesn't even know the MP of the historia.

I operate under the assumption the way in which Glidartz perceives God Serena as something other than a human is something else, not necessarily MP at all. Maybe the nature of MP. For example, Minerva mentions that the historias they're about to face are "undead" or something along the lines.

Gildartz never met Serena, so if he can't even sense the MP of Serena's historia, how is he going to gauge the power of the real Serena?

We can't know, but we can tell that:
1) he knows he's not alive, and that he's not at full power.
2) That, at full power, it'd be an opponent he might not be able to beat.

IF

Irene knows any type of destructive magic.

As of now, she hasn't shown it, so we don't count it.

She does, it's a guess indeed, but an educated one. August does so, why would Irene be put on the same level as August if all she could do is only reestructure a country?

Also that fireball seemed pretty destructive if you ask me, and that mustn't definetely be one of her strongest spells

I wouldn't assume stuff for Irene in case she turns out to be a disappointment.

You see, most of the spriggans were hyped to the sky but they were no big deal. Most turned out as disappointments. I wouldn't keep my hopes up, but I expect more from Irene than from Neinheart or Invel. And this is a guess, but I believe we're gonna see something that will not disappoint- at least not as much as other spriggans have.

The way you guys debated in the tournament contradicts how you powerscale here.

You guys literally set this rule up, not me (I was against it the whole time, but you guys wanted to use this):

Characters lacking feats will be inferior to those with better feats until proven otherwise (aka until the character shows more feats).

That happens to be a rule I'm against, but it is pretty sound if you ask me. Since we can't gauge DF Natsu's power in our current arc, there is no way we can tell if he's gonna be above or below August, we only know he will be stronger than his base self. (Even if DF Natsu was unrestricted in the tournament...........)

No, its diff a mountain.

Don't address my posts, I don't talk to your flawed and biased vision of things...

Maybe doing some hefty damage would suffice. But his punches - in battle - aren't busting people like he does mountains.

Point is his magic cuts through objects with ease, but that doesn't translate to people damage. Likewise someone who can't destroy a mountain with a punch could deal similar damage to a person.

Glidartz making holes through people (piercing them with his fist) would be a feasible feat for very strong people like Sakura or Tsunade (Naruto); as a matter of fact, I find it more logical that a punch from Tsunade would pierce through a body, rather than send it flying and collide with a building which actually collapses upon collision.

I can see Glidartz more like crashing a person into a milion cubes, but that ain't happening because it's not Gantz or SnK hehe

To be honest I'm not seeing why some people here are putting Gildarts anywhere near the same level as Irene or August, both have demonstrated their strength and appear to be ahead of Gildarts by a fair margin. August's "Dissolve into Oblivion" nuke is way ahead of anything Gildarts has shown, his heat damaged Natsu of all people. And Irene's been complimented by Acnologia, the same Acnologia that destroyed Gildarts and left him for dead.

Gildarts is not on their level going by current feats, enough said.

IKR!

 

[Woodenstool]

To be honest I'm not seeing why some people here are putting Gildarts anywhere near the same level as Irene or August, both have demonstrated their strength and appear to be ahead of Gildarts by a fair margin. August's "Dissolve into Oblivion" nuke is way ahead of anything Gildarts has shown, his heat damaged Natsu of all people. And Irene's been complimented by Acnologia, the same Acnologia that destroyed Gildarts and left him for dead.

Gildarts is not on their level going by current feats, enough said.

His magic was large enough to break a mountain. August isn't even close to producing spells that large. All of his spells are useless to him because he can crash it.

 

[Dragoon]

His magic was large enough to break a mountain. August isn't even close to producing spells that large. All of his spells are useless to him because he can crash it.

You overhype what you like and down play what you don't when it comes to gildartz being op and the rest being "fodder"

 

[Char]

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/489/6
You be the judge, compare that mountain to that.

Looks like a multi-mountain busting attack to me.

And please, for the second time, don't address me for the same bs about Glidartz. You're making me loathe him.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Gildarts soloing all the Spriggans combined bar Dimaria? Bruh, not even actual trolls say this type of crap

You said Natsu could throw multiple mountain busting punches. You're only make yourself look bad here.

Still waiting for you to show where I made that statement.

 

[Woodenstool]

Gildarts soloing all the Spriggans combined bar Dimaria? Bruh, not even actual trolls say this type of crap


Still waiting for you to show where I made that statement.

I'm not looking for it.

You said "The way Hiro is making Natsu to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he throws out multiple mountain busting punches"

 

[AsunaIsMyBae]

August best feat that fire pillar, when comparing it how thick it so the mountain, it's not even close. You can call Woodenstool bias all you like, that does not change facts.

Even if August is mountain level, Gildarts is up there via angry punches. His regular not giving a crap punches are enough to blow holes in mountains without hitting the mountain itself. He hit a beast.

 

[Boomburst]

August best feat that fire pillar, when comparing it how thick it so the mountain, it's not even close. You can call Woodenstool bias all you like, that does not change facts.

Even if August is mountain level, Gildarts is up there via angry punches. His regular not giving a crap punches are enough to blow holes in mountains without hitting the mountain itself. He hit a beast.

Facts that August isn't mountain level? Based on what? The pillar of flame was seen from BEHIND mountains. We have no idea how far away behind those mountains the pillar was, so for all we know it definitely could be a mountain level attack.

Besides, it's not like Gildarts' feats place him at mountain level either. Destroying a mountain is far different than just fragmenting one.

 

[Ebony Maw]

His magic was large enough to break a mountain. August isn't even close to producing spells that large. All of his spells are useless to him because he can crash it.

August's attack was a mountain AoE at least, the thing was huge. Also he's got better destructive capability, he damaged Natsu with a heat based spell despite the fact Natsu negated some of it. You'll excuse me if I don't believe that Gildarts can crash all of his attacks when August is blocking nukes off of Laxus like it's child play and putting Spriggan-tier opponents to sleep with a wave of his hand.

 

[Hermit]

Irene's AoE is most definitely above Gildarts - and every other person including August.

Ultear with Last Ages I think has shown the most AOE in the series, that spell was Universal level since it affected everywhere on Earthland

 

[Static]

Ultear with Last Ages I think has shown the most AOE in the series, that spell was Universal level since it affected everywhere on Earthland

I wonder if August and Zeref can use Last Ages on a greater scale o_O (I mean more than one minute which was what Ultear accomplished). Zeref showed he can use Time magic in Tartaros and August probably knows Time magic too.

Edit : Also woah, who voted Serena being on the level of August, Irene and Zeref?!

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 21, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 21, 2016 ---

Oh sorry I will amend that Dragons flying is probably the only continent level thing... and maybe Acnologia because he needs a continent to attempt to beat him.

I don't usually use country-level and the like...

The dragons flying over Ishgar isn't an AoE feat lol. It's a speed feat though a massive one at that since they flew over Ishgar completely in minutes.

 

[Woodenstool]

August's attack was a mountain AoE at least, the thing was huge. Also he's got better destructive capability, he damaged Natsu with a heat based spell despite the fact Natsu negated some of it. You'll excuse me if I don't believe that Gildarts can crash all of his attacks when August is blocking nukes off of Laxus like it's child play and putting Spriggan-tier opponents to sleep with a wave of his hand.

I really doubt Natsu was damaged because when Igneel blasted Acnologia, he was literally under him and seemed unaffected.

You throw in the fact that Natsu was bathing in Atlas flames hellfire. I doubt August is up to par with dragons.

 

[Static]

I really doubt Natsu was damaged because when Igneel blasted Acnologia, he was literally under him and seemed unaffected.

You throw in the fact that Natsu was bathing in Atlas flames hellfire. I doubt August is up to par with dragons.

Natsu wasn't under the attack, he was right besides Igneel who was sheltering him. Not to mention, Natsu wasn't attacked by Igneel's roar.

 

[Woodenstool]

Natsu wasn't under the attack, he was right besides Igneel who was sheltering him. Not to mention, Natsu wasn't attacked by Igneel's roar.

Natsu should be immune to fire, the only damage I could see being taken from that attack is the pressure of the fire. It was large.

 

[Boomburst]

Natsu should be immune to fire, the only damage I could see being taken from that attack is the pressure of the fire. It was large.

Natsu is only immune to fire when he's able to eat all of it. If he doesn't get a chance to do that then he'll still be affected like anyone else.

 

[Woodenstool]

Natsu is only immune to fire when he's able to eat all of it. If he doesn't get a chance to do that then he'll still be affected like anyone else.

He was inside Atlas flames so I don't get your point.

 

[Boomburst]

He was inside Atlas flames so I don't get your point.

Yea but he was eating Atlas Flame though, channeling the energy from the flame into his body. Besides, a body made of flames doesn't have the same effect as a flame based attack. I'm sure if Atlas Flame roared at Natsu then he would be affected.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I'm not looking for it.

You said "The way Hiro is making Natsu to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he throws out multiple mountain busting punches"

Wow Stool. I may think your opinions are laughably rididculous, but I never pegged you as the type to twist someones's words around.

1. I never said that Natsu can destroy multiple mountains at once, I said I wouldn't be surprised if he did. This is f**king Fairy Tail and with how inconsistent it's becoming nothing surprises me anymore.
2. I was joking..... How you mangaed to miss that is beyond me. Maybe next time I make a joke I'll use an emoticon or gif so that my joke doesn't fly over your head.

 

[Woodenstool]

Yea but he was eating Atlas Flame though, channeling the energy from the flame into his body. Besides, a body made of flames doesn't have the same effect as a flame based attack. I'm sure if Atlas Flame roared at Natsu then he would be affected.

Ummmmmm...

He said his body is hellfire and burns through magic.

 

[Char]

Now being serious, why don't we move on to something else? xD like, let's debate, I don't know... huh... Whether Wendy can be compared to the likes of Erza, or whether she's above Lucy or not...