New kinds of magic don't just randomly manifest in your body through training. Red Lightning would be have to have been taught to Laxus by someone for it to make any sense at all, and there's no indication that something like that happened.
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I was referring to the one year timeskip, because that was when Natsu really had a spike in power and improved tremendously. From what we've seen so far Natsu hasn't gone all out yet and already his feats are extremely impressive. Point being, I'm not going to make any assumptions about Natsu's strength in relation to Laxus until we get more feats from the both of them, because we haven't really seen either of them get pushed to their limit yet (Laxus was against Wahl but that was due to the MBP). What we can tell right now though, is that they are pretty near each other, and if one is stronger than the other it isn't by much.
Jacob uses transport God Serena
Wendy, Natsu and Gajeel are all OG dragon slayers who were raised by dragons and likely subsequently adopted some of their basic attributes (enhanced senses). We don't know if the same applies for mock/2nd gen dragon slayers like Serena. I honestly don't see why a lacrima would do anything for a DS beyond giving them the element of the lacrima/dragon. As for the mountain busting attack, for starters, Sand World is a lot larger then a mountain in scale. Secondly, Serena hasn't even shown any mountain busting attacks. As it stands no one in the series has the AoE to dissipate the entirety of SW in one blow, not even Acnologia.
He could blow all the surrounding sand away temporarily, sure, but the sand goes right back almost instantaneously and Ajeel could just retreat to where there is sand. Unless Serena has a constant gust of wind surrounding him and pushing the sand away what you are proposing will be about as effective as when Erza tried to do it.
Is there any proof that tapping into DS magic even increases his MP? I don't see why it would. When he says on the same level he's obviously talking about MP (since he can't possibly know the abilities of the Spriggan) and I wouldn't say its a wrong assessment. Although even then August/Irenes existence put that claims validity up for debate.
Natsu one shotting an enchanted S12 level member with nothing but his bare fists
First of all, no it wasn't with his bare fists because there was a goddamn explosion when he punched him. Secondly, it shouldn't be that much of a surprise considering what kind of a mage Neinhart is and the fact that Jellal oneshot the dude as well. And lastly, Natsu oneshotting Neinhart is a completely different situation than Laxus pulling a brand new move out of his ass. So no, I'm not turning a blind eye to anything.Natsu one shotting an enchanted S12 level member with nothing but his bare fists
But sure let's just pick on Laxus alone it's more fun that way and we can turn a blind eye to what he did in order to favor Natsu more >
He doesn't have a lot of range.
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Until proven otherwise he isn't mountain level.
Laxus spent a whole year training and you can't comprehend him learning a new type of 'lightning' magic.......lol okay.
One sided.yeah, what Natsu did since the time skip is awesome, top tier writing.
everything what Natsu did since the time skip is legit and his bull*** power up mode is the most awesome thing in FT because he unlocked that via training while Laxus DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEARN A NEW MOVE and we are talking about ass pulls. how many ass pulls did Natsu have in FT I wonder.....
lets see our awesome Natsu in action:
- one shots Bluenote
- one shots Arlock
- one shots War God
- one shots Jacob
- one shots an ENCHANTED SPRIGGAN WITH NAKAMA SPEECH WHICH CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, NOT TO MENTION THAT SPEECH THAT BRANDISH WAS GIVING THEM ON HOW TERRIFING THEY ARE
- breaks through magic cuffs, walks through Age Seal and destroys DiMaria because Hiro decided to use Natsu and LUCY to make them the object of fanservice. not only that BUT THAT HAPPENED WHEN DIMARIA WAS STRIPPING LUCY LMAO. I don't care about END. he was there for an excuse to beat the crap out of DiMaria. two Spriggans for Natsu in 3 chapter. Top tier writing just to make Natsu awesome
yeah, what Laxus did is God tier compared to Natsu in this two arcs. I even wonder why this manga/anime isn't called Natsu Tail or He who one shots people Tail.
E.N.D is significantly stronger than regular Natsu and that's the reason he walked through Age Seal. Natsy being that situation wasn't for the sake of best Dimaria but for awakening E.N.Dyeah, what Natsu did since the time skip is awesome, top tier writing.
everything what Natsu did since the time skip is legit and his bull*** power up mode is the most awesome thing in FT because he unlocked that via training while Laxus DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEARN A NEW MOVE and we are talking about ass pulls. how many ass pulls did Natsu have in FT I wonder.....
lets see our awesome Natsu in action:
- one shots Bluenote
- one shots Arlock
- one shots War God
- one shots Jacob
- one shots an ENCHANTED SPRIGGAN WITH NAKAMA SPEECH WHICH CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, NOT TO MENTION THAT SPEECH THAT BRANDISH WAS GIVING THEM ON HOW TERRIFING THEY ARE
- breaks through magic cuffs, walks through Age Seal and destroys DiMaria because Hiro decided to use Natsu and LUCY to make them the object of fanservice. not only that BUT THAT HAPPENED WHEN DIMARIA WAS STRIPPING LUCY LMAO. I don't care about END. he was there for an excuse to beat the crap out of DiMaria. two Spriggans for Natsu in 3 chapter. Top tier writing just to make Natsu awesome
yeah, what Laxus did is God tier compared to Natsu in this two arcs. I even wonder why this manga/anime isn't called Natsu Tail or He who one shots people Tail.
Hyperion is trash and Fodder he doesent know anything and besides even Wendy is stronger than Hyperion...
I think using the magic (dragon slayer) gives the dragon attributes, rather than the teachings of a dragon. Unless the sealing in their bodies from 400YA had more to do with it, I assume whatever a 1st gen can do a 2nd gen can do. Only thing I will probably not assume is Dragon Force.
Well we know from the very start that 2nd Gen Dragon Slayers become stronger than base state when they use Dragon Slaying Magic.The best examples are Laxus in Fighting Festival Arc when he became stronger than his Base state when he started using DS Magic.Same with Erik.When Serena was about to use DS Magic August said "this is his true power".But he didn't make the same comment regarding Base Serena's attacks.And Hyberion was taking Base Serena as the basis of comparison.And as Dragon Slayer Serena is stronger than Base Serena so vis a vis Dragon Slayer Serena is stronger than most of the Spriggans except for the obvious three August,Irene and Larcade.
Lol define illegitimately in the context of magic in FT...
Kinda what you're doing here right?
This is hype in FT. Mashima has a penchant for hyping characters up but showing much less.
This could be right.
"Illegitimately" meaning it wasn't an accurate representation of their powers.
Kind of. "But not really".
To be fair, not all hype in FT is bad. Mard Geer and Zeref are decent. Same with Future Rogue. Oh, and Acnologia if we count him.