Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ebony Maw]

We dont know the level of MBPs that were contaminating the air with the Thunder Tribe, however we do know that even someone of Levy's caliber was able to fight on for a very decent amount of time. Levy herself stated that the Mask did absolutely nothing at all.

Good point about the MBP concentration in the air, I looked in some panels and found something interesting in the sense of how their MBP's differ. Whereas Tempesta exploded and polluted the air that way, Bradman releases it more like steam.

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It's hard to tell how far that steam extends to in the fight due to the amount of dark colouring that is used but it looks like the closer you get to Bradman, the more MBP's you breath in.

About Levy's mask, when she says that the mask was useless she says "...From the very beginning it had no effect at all... Magic Barrier Particles can be absorbed through the skin, you know?". Since the mask covered her mouth and nose nowhere near as many MBP's were entering her, that's why she lasted for so long.

Tanking is a strong word, Bradman was getting demolished by DF Gajeel's punches.
As i said, the MBPs werent even enough to defeat Levy, they are barely a factor in the battle. Without DS Lungs or Intangibility Gajeel should be able to pull of a win, while in DF he didnt even use magic, if in base he were able to land named magical attacks as well as a secret art i can definitely see Bradman going down, not an easy battle, but doable.

While tanking was an exaggeration he did take a couple before he succumbed and given how much of a power boost DF is I think it's fair to say he could handle a hand full of attacks from base Gajeel. This being said Bradman wasn't using his most hax curses in their fight, he could have ripped Gajeel's senses away at any point or Enhanced himself to trade blows with him.

I've addressed the Levy/MBP's above, I think they would be a factor in a fight where Gajeel isn't resistant to them as they would make him weaker as the fight goes on.

I could see Tangible Bradman vs non-special lungs Gajeel ending in a draw tbh, either way it would be incredibly close, though likely over faster than their canon match-up.

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I wouldn't call MBP poisoning outright fodder, but its definitely not a threat to spriggan level threats, even the low-end ones. Evergreen and Bixlow are trash, especially the pre-ts ones.

I don't think it's really a threat in the sense of it being life threatening but it would definitely help given that it slowly weakens them as the fight goes on.

 

[Brandish μ]

Ladies ranking
1. Mavis if she uses FH
2. Irene
3. DiMaria
4. Brandish
5. Erza
6. TO-Sherria
7. Mirajane
8. Kagura
9. Lucy
10. Minerva

Anna Heartfilia would probably make this list, and might rank fairly high (not above 3 though).

 

[Seven777]

Good point about the MBP concentration in the air, I looked in some panels and found something interesting in the sense of how their MBP's differ. Whereas Tempesta exploded and polluted the air that way, Bradman releases it more like steam.

Spoiler

It's hard to tell how far that steam extends to in the fight due to the amount of dark colouring that is used but it looks like the closer you get to Bradman, the more MBP's you breath in.

About Levy's mask, when she says that the mask was useless she says "...From the very beginning it had no effect at all... Magic Barrier Particles can be absorbed through the skin, you know?". Since the mask covered her mouth and nose nowhere near as many MBP's were entering her, that's why she lasted for so long.

But... that kinda just proves my point, she said from the beginning it had no effect at all, even if you can logically come to the conclusion that the mask helped her by stopping her from breathing in MBPs, her actual statement contradicts that, generally i go with character statements over speculation made by fellow fans, even if the speculation is perfectly logical

While tanking was an exaggeration he did take a couple before he succumbed and given how much of a power boost DF is I think it's fair to say he could handle a hand full of attacks from base Gajeel. This being said Bradman wasn't using his most hax curses in their fight, he could have ripped Gajeel's senses away at any point or Enhanced himself to trade blows with him.

We dont know the extent of Sensation's curse, or if it would work on current power level's, Mira should've been able to Macro Juliet and Hyne, but that didnt happen either. Imo best Bradman could do is up pain levels.

I've addressed the Levy/MBP's above, I think they would be a factor in a fight where Gajeel isn't resistant to them as they would make him weaker as the fight goes on.

I could see Tangible Bradman vs non-special lungs Gajeel ending in a draw tbh, either way it would be incredibly close, though likely over faster than their canon match-up.

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I don't think it's really a threat in the sense of it being life threatening but it would definitely help given that it slowly weakens them as the fight goes on.

I do agree it would be incredibly close, and i could definitely see both going down in the end.

 

[Nemispelled]

If you assume those words are correct, Yury gave Makarov Red Lightning, who should have given it to Ivan, and then to Laxus...

You either learn magic, or you get given it via a lacrima, or tattoo.

I don't think you get it. By inheritance, the manga is specifically talking about Red Lightning.

Yuriy didn't give any magic to Makarov, Ivan, and then to Laxus.

Yuriy gave his blood.

Makarov and Ivan don't use lightning/electricity/thunder magic, that's why they don't get anything but Yuriy's genes.

Laxus does. He is a Lightning Dragon Slayer, so Yuriy's blood in him gave him the ability to cast Red Lightning.


People can argue with me all they want, but the fact is that Mashima and the FT manga explicitly stated that Laxus casted RL because of inheritance from Yuriy.

As this point, people are really just denying the scans, which is disappointing considering that's what everybody has been using to prove their point in the past.

It's literally stated, it can't get much more factual than that... feat-wise.

 

[Boomburst]

I don't think you get it. By inheritance, the manga is specifically talking about Red Lightning.

Yuriy didn't give any magic to Makarov, Ivan, and then to Laxus.

Yuriy gave his blood.

Makarov and Ivan don't use lightning/electricity/thunder magic, that's why they don't get anything but Yuriy's genes.

Laxus does. He is a Lightning Dragon Slayer, so Yuriy's blood in him gave him the ability to cast Red Lightning.


People can argue with me all they want, but the fact is that Mashima and the FT manga explicitly stated that Laxus casted RL because of inheritance from Yuriy.

As this point, people are really just denying the scans, which is disappointing considering that's what everybody has been using to prove their point in the past.

It's literally stated, it can't get much more factual than that... feat-wise.

Read it again...it says that Laxus inherited the WILL of his ancestors, nothing suggests that the move itself was inherited. Besides, it's an editor's note. It's as meaningless as Gildarts still being the strongest in FT or Invel's ice being below absolute zero.

 

[King of kings]

i think Dimaria is the strongest spriggan member because she use time magic , slow-time , reverse-time,time-stop, speed-time , teleport and she can also see the future.I mean this power very dangerous , it could restart everything where FT and alvarez preparing war.If you don't understand , this what would if she restart:
-She could save God Serena , Whal Icht , Bradman and prevent their death.
-Also she has Chronos as her vessel.
But if don't believe this it's okay but her her power could change history into flaspoint paradox

 

[EpicKralZ]

i think Dimaria is the strongest spriggan member because she use time magic , slow-time , reverse-time,time-stop, speed-time , teleport and she can also see the future.I mean this power very dangerous , it could restart everything where FT and alvarez preparing war.If you don't understand , this what would if she restart:
-She could save God Serena , Whal Icht , Bradman and prevent their death.
-Also she has Chronos as her vessel.
But if don't believe this it's okay but her her power could change history into flaspoint paradox

If Natsu as END form can move through Dimaria's Time stop, maybe August can do that too and Eileen. August is the strongest Spriggan for me and he's the leader of the 12 he said so.

 

[King of kings]

If Natsu as END form can move through Dimaria's Time stop, maybe August can do that too and Eileen. August is the strongest Spriggan for me and he's the leader of the 12 he said so.

Nah , END moved by time-stop because is a demon from book so celestial spirits , demons of book Zeref , they can move from Dimaria world cause they don't belong in this world.August and Irene are humans ,it doesn't mean they can move from time stop. Don't forget Chronos can see future.

 

[Arjuna]

Nah , END moved by time-stop because is a demon from book so celestial spirits , demons of book Zeref , they can move from Dimaria world cause they don't belong in this world.August and Irene are humans ,it doesn't mean they can move from time stop. Don't forget Chronos can see future.

It has been clearly stated that August,Irene and Larcade are above the rest.
It was also mentioned that only Irene can defeat August no one else.So even if Dimaria has Age Seal it will be ineffective against August,Irene and Larcade.

 

[Axiomus]

When can Dimaria see the future?

 

[King of kings]

Don't you guys realize Dimaria could turn back time around when war started and could change history this is why is powerful time magic. Gods are above humans level power.Dude, we saw one war god who was ten time stronger Acnologia just look the size it's like big as Galactus. Being stronger doesn't mean can beat all characters.What am telling is the truth , i believe there characters powerful than 12 spriggans because the manga is not over yet.We need to see country like Bosco , Seven ,Pergrande King(this country is bigger then Alvarez empire) , other war gods , devils , gods..ect slayers.

 

[The President]

Nah , END moved by time-stop because is a demon from book so celestial spirits , demons of book Zeref , they can move from Dimaria world cause they don't belong in this world.August and Irene are humans ,it doesn't mean they can move from time stop. Don't forget Chronos can see future.

Just because they were created by a book doesn't mean they aren't of this world. Its been outright stated by multiple different sources that August, Irene and Larcade are the strongest (stated by Makarov, Brandish, Natsu, Mest, Lucy, Larcade, Mavis, Mirajane). This is not even remotely debatable, saying otherwise is no different then going against hiromashimas opinion itself.

Don't you guys realize Dimaria could turn back time around when war started and could change history.

Gods are above humans level power.

Dude, we saw one war god who was ten time stronger Acnologia.

just look the size it's like big as Galactus.

 

[King of kings]

When can Dimaria see the future?

She will do it soon because she goddesses of time

 

[Nemispelled]

Read it again...it says that Laxus inherited the WILL of his ancestors, nothing suggests that the move itself was inherited. Besides, it's an editor's note. It's as meaningless as Gildarts still being the strongest in FT or Invel's ice being below absolute zero.

Let me ask you a question:

If Yuriy was not his great-grandfather, could Laxus have used Red Lightning?

The simple answer is a no.

It doesn't matter what Yuriy passed down to Laxus.

The fact is that Laxus needed Yuriy's assistance to use Red Lightning.


You have to be well-versed in the context of literature.

It doesn't literally mean will.

Laxus definitely has the will to cast the spell (he wanted to protect his friends and guild), but did he have the power?.... no, he didn't.

He can't cast the spell without Yuriy being a third factor in that battle.


My case still stands:

Gray defeated Invel in base.

Laxus needed Yuriy to oneshot Wahl.

Don't twist these words.


EDIT:

Manga pages are manga pages. If the scans say so, it is so.

Editor's notes don't mean crap because I know all of you guys have used that as your "evidence" in the past.

That's BS.

I can say every character's dialogue in the manga is their opinion, so scans should not be used as feat then.

See how biased that sounds?

Either you accept all or none.

Don't go halfway.

 

[Damon blevins]

Let me ask you a question:

If Yuriy was not his great-grandfather, could Laxus have used Red Lightning?

The simple answer is a no.

It doesn't matter what Yuriy passed down to Laxus.

The fact is that Laxus needed Yuriy's assistance to use Red Lightning.


You have to be well-versed in the context of literature.

It doesn't literally mean will.

Laxus definitely has the will to cast the spell, if he had the power... be he didn't.

He can't cast the spell without Yuriy being a third factor in that battle.


My case still stands:

Gray defeated Invel in base.

Laxus needed Yuriy to oneshot Wahl.

Don't twist these words.


EDIT:

Manga pages are manga pages. If the scans say so, it is so.

Editor's notes don't mean crap because I know all of you guys have used that as your "evidence" in the past.

That's BS. I can say every character's dialogue in the manga is their opinion, so scans should be used as feat then.

Let me ask you a question:

If Yuriy was not his great-grandfather, could Laxus have used Red Lightning?

The simple answer is a no.

It doesn't matter what Yuriy passed down to Laxus.

The fact is that Laxus needed Yuriy's assistance to use Red Lightning.


You have to be well-versed in the context of literature.

It doesn't literally mean will.

Laxus definitely has the will to cast the spell (he wanted to protect his friends and guild), but did he have the power?.... no, he didn't.

He can't cast the spell without Yuriy being a third factor in that battle.


My case still stands:

Gray defeated Invel in base.

Laxus needed Yuriy to oneshot Wahl.

Don't twist these words.


EDIT:

Manga pages are manga pages. If the scans say so, it is so.

Editor's notes don't mean crap because I know all of you guys have used that as your "evidence" in the past.

That's BS. I can say every character's dialogue in the manga is their opinion, so scans should be used as feat then.

Lol in what way did Yuri directly help Laxus in that fight? I'm just curious to see your answer.

 

[Nemispelled]

Lol in what way did Yuri directly help Laxus in that fight? I'm just curious to see your answer.

Ask Mashima and the artists who wrote the manga. I ain't the author.

It's printed clearly in English on the scans.

It's up to you guys on whether you want to use manga scans as facts. I don't have to.

From this point on, we can leave power ranking entirely up to interpretation.

I will be the first to do that. It's your call.

But I'm calling BS if you meet halfway in the middle. That's just biased.

 

[Damon blevins]

Ask Mashima and the artists who wrote the manga. I ain't the author.

It's printed clearly in English on the scans.

It's up to you guys on whether you want to use manga scans as facts. I don't have to.

From this point on, we can leave power ranking entirely up to interpretation.

I will be the first to do that. It's your call.

But I'm calling BS if you meet halfway in the middle.

That's actually the editor's note that's at the end of a chapter of almost any manga. It wasn't written by Hiro.

 

[Arjuna]

Laugh but is the truth

Sorry my question may sound awkward

But did you say War God is actually 10 times stronger than Acnologia?I failed to catch that part

 

[Nemispelled]

That's actually the editor's note that's at the end of a chapter of almost any manga. It wasn't written by Hiro.

Anything in the manga is owned by Hiro.

Most of the text in the manga aren't directly written by Hiro himself either.

He has assistants and such to help him create the plot and conversation.

So you'd be denying a lot of the content in the manga if you are going strictly by "Mashima's writing".


Again, the statement regarding Laxus having assistance from Yuriy during his battle with Wahl is a fact.

If you don't accept that as a fact, then manga scans will no longer be used to prove feats.

 

[The President]

Laugh but is the truth

None of what you said is the truth.

Anything in the manga is owned by Hiro.

Everything that is written and spoken by a character, yes. Everything outside of those boxes aren't hiros.

Most of the text in the manga aren't directly written by Hiro himself either.

Thats just blatantly wrong.

Again, the statement regarding Laxus having assistance from Yuriy during his battle with Wahl is a fact.

Its not a fact at all. Editor hype is actually even less valid then a readers opinion because they aren't even going by logic, they say whatever the hell they need to say to make the ending seem "more hype" and bring suspense till the next issue. Nothing is more proof of this then something like this:

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I am sure I don't need to explain to you why Invels ice being colder then absolute zero is hilariously wrong.