Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Seven777]

I never meant the series...

Mard was a known liar and his credibility is garbage. The statement was baseless and not backed up whatsoever. Feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statements. It's not my opinion Jeimma sucked it's a fact as his feats were trash. He got beat by two people weaker than base Natsu and you're telling me he's above Jackal let alone the top 3 9D?

You can clearly see after she tries to regain takeover she gets push out of the full form resulting in a half and half form. Also it was Sherria's GS magic undoing it not her fists.

Thats purely your opinion, just because you think Sting and Rogue suck, doesnt make it so. the part-demon Jiemma blocked Zeroth Longsword, and casually tanked a dozen fire punches from Natsu with no damage.

Your opinions on where Jiemma's feats should put him doesnt mean shit when we have a clear cut statement from the manga saying how powerful he actually is.

 

[Jko]

Thats purely your opinion, just because you think Sting and Rogue suck, doesnt make it so. the part-demon Jiemma blocked Zeroth Longsword, and casually tanked a dozen fire punches from Natsu with no damage.

Your opinions on where Jiemma's feats should put him doesnt mean shit when we have a clear cut statement from the manga saying how powerful he actually is.

Jackal > Base Natsu >>> Sting and Rogue > Jiemma which means Jackal >> Jiemma.

It's a fact that is feats don't put him near top 3 9D status. Clear cut statement is actually baseless since Mard is not a credible source at all. He blocked and tanked?!! Jiemma side cocked Gray and he was getting rekt by Natsu's punches. The dude was getting his butt beat by unnamed attacks and was scared when Natsu pulled out one LFD move. And Natsu was going nowhere near all out in base seeing as Sting thought he could contend with Natsu still and Natsu mid diff them in base. They didn't even use DF against Jiemma and Natsu demolished them both in DF and they used a unison raid.

The twins weren't even stronger than Minerva (as stated by both Rufus and Orga) in GMG. Minerva while demon enhanced got stomped by SO Erza with just fists. Like I said Jiemma's feats are trash which means he's trash.

 

[Seven777]

Jackal > Base Natsu >>> Sting and Rogue > Jiemma which means Jackal >> Jiemma.

It's a fact that is feats don't put him near top 3 9D status. Clear cut statement is actually baseless since Mard is not a credible source at all. He blocked and tanked?!! Jiemma side cocked Gray and he was getting rekt by Natsu's punches. The dude was getting his butt beat by unnamed attacks and was scared when Natsu pulled out one LFD move. And Natsu was going nowhere near all out in base seeing as Sting thought he could contend with Natsu still and Natsu mid diff them in base. They didn't even use DF against Jiemma and Natsu demolished them both in DF and they used a unison raid.

The twins weren't even stronger than Minerva (as stated by both Rufus and Orga) in GMG. Minerva while demon enhanced got stomped by SO Erza with just fists. Like I said Jiemma's feats are trash which means he's trash.

No, the fact is that you dont think his feats put him at that level, but your opinion doesnt mean anything when put against statements given by the manga
Your ignoring the fact that Sting was stated to have received an enormous boost in strength when he thought Lector had died, the fight against Jiemma is what proves this to be true, since we know for a fact that Jiemma>9 DG.

Mard is the most credible source out there, since he knows Jiemma's capabilities better than anyone other than maybe Kyoka and Lammi.
Mashima had Mard Geer say that Jiemma is strong, so he is strong, your opinion doesnt hold any weight compared to words taken directly from the manga, its nothing more than half baked speculation from a fan

 

[The President]

List of people (not all) who've used their hax on people stronger or would've work on people stronger than them if they didn't counter them.

No one said that hax doesn't work on stronger characters. I've said it before and I will say it again, it depends on what the hax is and what level of gap we are talking about. Some hax works on characters a tier above them. So hax works on characters two tiers above them. Some hax does not even work on characters on the same tier.

And I will also speak on the Jiemma stuff. Mards (and hiros by extension) claim >>> Your interpretation of feats. The only case in which feats are >> statements is in a scenario in which character X is stated to be stronger then Y and then character Y proceeds to defeat character X or alternatively character X defeats character Z who defeated character X (without any special advantages or outside interference).

That hasn't happened, if anything its the opposite. Jiemma actually overwhelmed Natsu in their confrontation and it was implied by Minerva that even a regular Jiemma fighting Natsu (after seeing LFD) would have been a toss-up (demonizing made him stronger). That just means that the duo got a lot stronger since their fight with Natsu in GMG. Also worth noting that rough silk can take down characters above the users weight class (as shown with Sting taking down someone clearly superior), which would explain why they were able to take down someone who was quite clearly far above them at the time.

 

[Arjuna]

Did Hiro give any stat on Jiemma?The strongest 9DG was Kyouka whose Curse Power was 2700.If Jiemma's power exceeds that than he is stronger than all 9DG.

 

[Seven777]

Did Hiro give any stat on Jiemma?The strongest 9DG was Kyouka whose Curse Power was 2700.If Jiemma's power exceeds that than he is stronger than all 9DG.

No stats for Minerva or Jiemma, all we got is Mard saying he is stronger than the Demon Gates

 

[Arjuna]

No stats for Minerva or Jiemma, all we got is Mard saying he is stronger than the Demon Gates

If he is really stronger then there can be a explanation why Twin Dragons defeated him.We know by that time Dragons left their bodies so all Dragon Slayers might have recieved a boost.

 

[Brandish μ]

Far as I'm concerned, Jiemma is at least Kyouka/Silver level. I think those 2 were the best of the 9DG. Jiemma is stated to be stronger, so I'd give him a slight edge over those 2. Like extreme diff against Kyouka or Silver.

 

[**Silver**]

Far as I'm concerned, Jiemma is at least Kyouka/Silver level. I think those 2 were the best of the 9DG. Jiemma is stated to be stronger, so I'd give him a slight edge over those 2. Like extreme diff against Kyouka or Silver.

Silver insta freezed Sun village Atlas Flame Spirit and Natsu... those feats is impressive enough to be the strongest 9DG even Mard feared his magic... and Silver was nerfed against Gray that is obvious.. only Etherius Mard Geer has superior feats

 

[Brandish μ]

Silver insta freezed Sun village Atlas Flame Spirit and Natsu... those feats is impressive enough to be the strongest 9DG even Mard feared his magic... and Silver was nerfed against Gray that is obvious.. only Etherius Mard Geer has superior feats

I think Silver is definitely powerful (in that arc). I don't think he was nerfed against Gray, you could tell how powerful Silver was, but because he was a corpse his durability wasn't that flash. Mard would fear Devil Slayer magic of course

 

[**Silver**]

I think Silver is definitely powerful (in that arc). I don't think he was nerfed against Gray, you could tell how powerful Silver was, but because he was a corpse his durability wasn't that flash. Mard would fear Devil Slayer magic of course

LoL he was not nerfed against Gray??? Silver already one-shotted Natsu who is stronger than Base-Gray....

 

[Brandish μ]

LoL he was not nerfed against Gray??? Silver already one-shotted Natsu who is stronger than Base-Gray....

You could tell how strong Silver was though, but for plot reasons he had other motives. Plus Steel Ball is an epic finisher

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

Now upon reflection Larcade did in fact disappoint a bit. I don't think he is August/Irene level because asides from hax you need strong magical/physical power as well to be the very top tier like they seem to be. And at the end of the day he got done in by one named attack. He is still strong because he blocked Kagura's attack with fingers but not Gildarts/Laxus level strong. Sting was the ultimate foil for his offense but he wasn't really someone whose attacks were any more effective against Larcade and one major attack did Larcade in. Larcade himself is also the only person who claimed he was August/Irene level (everyone else just commented about his weird magic) and he also thinks that he could take out Acnologia so I don't buy it. He is squarely below the top tier Spriggan like the Big 2 and and imo he is a high tier spriggan like Dimaria.

 

[**Silver**]

Now upon reflection Larcade did in fact disappoint a bit. I don't think he is August/Irene level because asides from hax you need strong magical/physical power as well to be the very top tier like they seem to be. And at the end of the day he got done in by one named attack. He is still strong because he blocked Kagura's attack with fingers but not Gildarts/Laxus level strong. Sting was the ultimate foil for his offense but he wasn't really someone whose attacks were any more effective against Larcade and one major attack did Larcade in. Larcade himself is also the only person who claimed he was August/Irene level (everyone else just commented about his weird magic) and he also thinks that he could take out Acnologia so I don't buy it. He is squarely below the top tier Spriggan like the Big 2 and and imo he is a high tier spriggan like Dimaria.

agree with this but what exactly is High-Tier Spriggan???

Spriggans with best feats
Wahl forced Laxus to Extreme-difficulty fight
Invel was able to fight against Gray who is par Natsu and top tier character and insta Freezed Natsu
God Serena defeated Goi+jura easy-difficulty...
Dimaria has age seal (but without age seal Wendy and To Shelia defeated Dimaria...)

 

[Crimson Ice]

I never meant the series...

Mard was a known liar and his credibility is garbage. The statement was baseless and not backed up whatsoever. Feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statements. It's not my opinion Jeimma sucked it's a fact as his feats were trash. He got beat by two people weaker than base Natsu and you're telling me he's above Jackal let alone the top 3 9D?

You can clearly see after she tries to regain takeover she gets push out of the full form resulting in a half and half form. Also it was Sherria's GS magic undoing it not her fists.

You said the whole series was an outlier, just admit it, you lost.

One, when has Mard known as a liar with no crediability? Two, look at the context of the statement. There is absolutely no REASON to lie about Jiemma's power.


Statments>>>>Whatever bullshit you spew. Sting and Rouge during Tarturus weren't weaker than Base Natsu, we literally see Jiemma easily send base Natsu flying back EASILY and Sting and Rouge beats him. All of these character statements about the Twin Dragons were made during the GMG, or do you think the Twin Dragons, the most prominent characters in Sabertooth, with the most plot relevance in Saberthooth would stay weaker than Minvera for the whole manga? Rouge literally just beat a stronger Historia than Minerva and they both had the same amount of difficulty.




I could give a damn what Chereia's magic was doing, she didn't beat the Takeover pout fo Dimaria.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 30, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 30, 2016 ---

Now upon reflection Larcade did in fact disappoint a bit. I don't think he is August/Irene level because asides from hax you need strong magical/physical power as well to be the very top tier like they seem to be. And at the end of the day he got done in by one named attack. He is still strong because he blocked Kagura's attack with fingers but not Gildarts/Laxus level strong. Sting was the ultimate foil for his offense but he wasn't really someone whose attacks were any more effective against Larcade and one major attack did Larcade in. Larcade himself is also the only person who claimed he was August/Irene level (everyone else just commented about his weird magic) and he also thinks that he could take out Acnologia so I don't buy it. He is squarely below the top tier Spriggan like the Big 2 and and imo he is a high tier spriggan like Dimaria.

Eeeh. While I wouldn't put him on the top two's level he's should be above Dimaria. He has been the only Spriggan other than Irene and August who has been separated from his peers. While his magic itself is extremely powerful and as it stands he'd drop any of the powerhouses on the good side in a one on one fight, yes even Sting (he got help from Kagura and was told what to do by Rouge, meaning this victory isn't just his.). He should be a good deal above Dimaria through portrayal while his feats aren't that bad either.

 

[Brandish μ]

August and Irene - both above Larcade, but likely below Zeref.

Larcade - above the other 9 Spriggans, but not like the top 2. I'd put him in the same bracket as Isghal's best. But I don't expect him to match them physically in combat, but with hax he could.

 

[Seven777]

agree with this but what exactly is High-Tier Spriggan???

Spriggans with best feats
Wahl forced Laxus to Extreme-difficulty fight
Invel was able to fight against Gray who is par Natsu and top tier character and insta Freezed Natsu
God Serena defeated Goi+jura easy-difficulty...
Dimaria has age seal (but without age seal Wendy and To Shelia defeated Dimaria...)

Dimaria is a high tier spriggan cause she can oneshot other spriggans(Brandish), God Serena might be up there as well but thats just my opinion.
The rest are all mid or low tier spriggans imo

 

[BluePegasus]

Complete Spriggan tier list

1). August
2). Irene
3). Dimaria
4). Larcade
5). Invel
6). Bloodman
7). Jacob
8). Enhanced Neinhart
9). Wall
10). Brandish
11). God Serena
12). Ajeel

 

[**Silver**]

Dimaria is a high tier spriggan cause she can oneshot other spriggans(Brandish), God Serena might be up there as well but thats just my opinion.
The rest are all mid or low tier spriggans imo

personally i think God Serena with his Lacrima powers is stronger than Larcade... the fact that Acnologia killed God Serena and not Larcade implies that God Serena is more dangerous....

 

[GodOfDestruction]

Fairy Tail has some impressive attacks. Some of which come in many forms. We could talk about how powerful one is, but their attacks make them too.

I will have to say White Shadow Dragons Silk, because it has taken down both Jiemma and Larcade(I think).

Also don't rank them on specific enemy. Sherrias attack that finished DiMaria can be considered strong, against a god. Same for the attack Gray used to take down Mard Geer.

So what do you think is the strongest attack?
Discuss in the comments.