I really hated that one at first butime I like it now. This arc really turned it for me. Gruvia just became bad in my mouth after Juvia just easily forgave Gray when he left for six months. If Juvia was like before the skip then I'd like itbut now it just become meh imo.
My problem is not her devotion to Gray itself but rather the fact that she seems distant to the other characters like when she is in the presence of other characters and Gray is absent, 90% of the time the only dialogue out of her is "Why am I not with my dear Gray?" I just wish she was more like she acted during the Battle of Fairy Tail arc, do you remember when she eloctrocuted herself to keep from hurting Cana? I wanna see more of THAT in Juvia, for people besides Gray.
Exactly. I did not like how she just stood in the rain waiting for Gray to comeback like that was just overkill. I wish she more productive in her own life w/o Gray.
I hated Jerza for no reason at first too but i realized that they are very good pairing i actually liked Jellal's perspective, He thought he don't deserve someone like Erza because of harm he caused that is some good stuff.
While the significant others seem to depend on each other for the other ships, there is still the sense that they can be independent if left alone. I mean Lucy kind of moved on and got a job as a reporter, she was sad but she at least started moving forward. Juvia didn't do that. She just sat in a rainy house, sulking. Her love for Gray is awesome but she shouldn't let that inhibit herself in such a way... it makes me like her less.
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That's fair but it seems a little toxic to me, to solely depend on someone so much that you are unable to function without them. Grieving is another thing entirely.
And then Wendy could heal Erza being poisoned but couldn't heal Juvia's fever in time for her to go with them...I just...
It was all just so badly written.
Yeah, I just don't like how dependent she is and how she seems unable to do anything without Gray. I will say though that if Natsu didn't find Juvia, it's still pretty likely he would have gone to Sabertooth and figured out where Gray was since he knew of what had happened in the future. His arrival at Sabertooth would be slightly different and the timing would be different but he'd make it there.Juvia waiting in the rain for so long still irks me to this day.
Why didn't she go to Lamia Scale and ask Lyon for help? She read Lucy's articles so why not go to Lucy?
Yeah, sure, she had to wait in case Gray came back and she DID say she searched for him but it's just bad writing. Mashima used her character as a plot device which sucks and ruined parts of her character for a lot of people. Hell, I'm a fan of her and even I'm saying she was shown really badly in that arc
But she had to stay in the village and it had to be raining so that Natsu and Lucy could find her and she could give them clues as to where Gray was. Literally a plot device and a terrible one at that.
She couldn't even go with them. SHE GOT A FEVER...FROM THE RAIN...AFTER LIVING IN THE RAIN ALL HER LIFE
And then she appears in the middle of the battlefield and the whole thing is just washed over.
I like to think that Gray gave her a proper explanation and they had a long talk once they went back to their house to pack (since he said he'd give her an explanation later) but still, if that even happened, it's offscreen and yeah...totally ruined Avatar for me. I am still salty to this day
how is that regressing? More like, stagnant in your view. She did regress though, because at least in the first few arcs she was her own person (as far as I recall anyway). But the past few arcs, she's been too Gray oriented, and it's annoying. I mean, it's like Mashima didn't care about developing Juvia along with Gray, which would have made the relationship even better. Though Natsu-Lucy making each other better thing is false, neither of them hurt each other at all, whereas Juvia was hurt when Gray left.
We will always be salty over AvatarJuvia waiting in the rain for so long still irks me to this day.
Why didn't she go to Lamia Scale and ask Lyon for help? She read Lucy's articles so why not go to Lucy?
Yeah, sure, she had to wait in case Gray came back and she DID say she searched for him...but it's just bad writing. Mashima used her character as a plot device which sucks and ruined parts of her character for a lot of people. Hell, I'm a fan of her and even I'm saying she was shown really badly in that arc
But she had to stay in the village and it had to be raining so that Natsu and Lucy could find her and she could give them clues as to where Gray was. Literally a plot device and a terrible one at that.
She couldn't even go with them. SHE GOT A FEVER...FROM THE RAIN...AFTER LIVING IN THE RAIN ALL HER LIFE
And then she appears in the middle of the battlefield and the whole thing is just washed over.
I like to think that Gray gave her a proper explanation and they had a long talk once they went back to their house to pack (since he said he'd give her an explanation later) but still, if that even happened, it's offscreen and yeah...totally ruined Avatar for me. I will forever be salty about this
We will always be salty over Avatar
This arc could have gone in so maaany ways, not only regarding Gruvia. I didn't like its plot and I still forget it nowadays lmao as a plus, if I consider what happened to Juvia and Gruvia during this time I just....
She did look for him but then stopped. But, logically, a girl who supposedly stays under the rain for 6 months without doing anything beside that would die of starvation and so many other things. She just got a meaningless fever, lol. We could justify this with her water powers but then again... we are talking about Juvia, a girl who spent 17 years of her life surrounded by the rain yet she got sick because of it. MASHIMA WHY
People who still are convinced Juvia is a stalker could have changed their mind after this, her stalkerish power failed1!11111
What's worse than this... steam being her most effective weakness. STEAM! Boiling water produces steam... dear lord
Mashima has just dropped the ball with Juvia.
Juvia in the Tower of Heaven and FT Battle was amazing:
- nakama speeches for the guild and its members
- leardership, kinda. She helped Team Natsu entering the tower easily with her amazing water oxygen bubbles and all. Simon even recognized her status as an Element 4 s-class mage after her clever statement about his powers.
- her love for Gray was still there but her character didn't revolve around him.
- bits of her long lasting friendship with Gajeel that is now nowhere to be seen (I love Gajuvia, ffs)
I love her, she's my favourite character and all these flaws sudden me a lot. So much wasted potential.... water magic is dope (just watch Avatar, and damn!)
Water benders on Avatar can manipulate blood so Juvia with water-blood magic had been my headcanon for a while. I was so happy to finally see something new from her but sadly I don't even think she'll use it again. Water make... make! She creates blood out of water and then does trasfusions! So so so so refreshing.
Mashima likes to portrait Juvia as the typical japanese girl, that's it.
Juvia in Avatar is just a plot device, nothing less nothing more. And currently she's Gray's rock and development
Gruvia is my OTP but yeah, as many said the one who is developing is Gray, although thanks to Tenrou we got to know hers wasn't just a random crush but true love...
Water and ice are basically the same thing, I wish those 6 months of training together would have been explored more... their teamwork is amazing. So many unison raids and and and and... can I cry
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because all of them are developed based on 
do you have proof or evidence of this? As far as I know, Natsu's never seen Lucy as a maternal figure, he's seen her as his close friend; he's actually friendzoned her. I mean, you can say Natsu-Lucy isn't an actual pairing, and that's a fact, but to say he sees her as a maternal figure... like wut
Lucy is a surrogate for Anna, who was somewhat like her adoptive mother (perhaps), Lucy unconsciously reminds Anna. In addition, Natsu does everything a son does, to get the attention of his mother (more or less): like sleeping in his bed.
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I think Anna treated Natsu like a son, and Natsu saw her as a mother.
I agree with you on most of this. I'm expecting Anna to be a mother figure for him, but I don't really see him treating Lucy that same way. Anna is like his ancestor-in-law.
