Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[Raven]

And no, Natsu-Lucy doesn't really beat at least two ships. Gray and Juvia fought together and worked very well together. As far as I recall, Natsu just saves Lucy and takes over the fight. Elf and Ever are very tsundere and act like a tsundere couple, while Natsu and Lucy act like best friends, and Natsu inspires Lucy. And um, the fans love the adventures Natsu and Lucy (main characters) go on, but nothing suggests the fans love the pairing.

Your opinion about Natsu-Lucy isn't true either it's just an opinion backed by bias and expectations to the point that you'll reach hard to defend the pairing in any form, including ecchii or Lucy's reaction to sexual harassment as evidence of development. That's nonsense.

And I actually like Naruto and Hinata, but it doesn't mean I'll delude myself into thinking it had proper development and everything. And I couldn't care less about pairings in Bleach, but there was barely any romantic development between Ichigo and anyone else, so it's ridiculous.

I don't mind Gruvia their development is great but not as Nalu. As for Nalu adventures is making this manga in the first place and their development is quite known by all fans thats why most fan ships it which resulted in Ft's popularity .

My opinion it's almost true like 90% and it's > your opinion that has no basis

 

[GamerSkull]

There's no need to start fights over something like this. It's fine to dislike a ship or like it. It all comes down to preferences and tastes. I personally like NaLu quite a bit. I'm also okay with Gruvia and Gajevy. It's cool to discuss these things but there's no need to start an argument over them... on both sides.

 

[Brandish μ]

Moderator Notice:
No bashing, baiting or insulting please. Keep it civil.~ Brandish

 

[M3J]

There's no need to start fights over something like this. It's fine to dislike a ship or like it. It all comes down to preferences and tastes. I personally like NaLu quite a bit. I'm also okay with Gruvia and Gajevy. It's cool to discuss these things but there's no need to start an argument over them... on both sides.

Hey, don't blame me when I got attacked. As I said, I don't mind Natsu-Lucy and wouldn't be against them actually becoming canon provided they get proper development, but I just don't agree with anyone saying it's better than two other pairings or has as much development when it doesn't. I see myself as pretty unbiased.

I mean, Gray-Juvia, a joke pairing, actually had development to the point where Gray and Juvia work pretty well together when they're fighting, and Gray actually accepts her as part of nakama. Like, I got no problem discussing and debating stuff, and the aggressiveness isn't really intentional (sign that I'm getting annoyed though).

 

[BrandyThema]

It's weird that someone's opinion on a fictional couple can be "isn't true"
We all read the same thing, but one can see differently from the others. One may see romantic development, the other may not. Expressing thoughts and opinion is one thing, but "prove me wrong" or "it's isn't" or "they on their best days will never beat the others on their worst days", implying you're right and we're wrong is another. And that's forcing one's opinion down other's throats

For someone whose only memories of Nalu is Natsu saves Lucy and ecchi in the course of over 500 chapters, of course it ain't gonna make sense to that person, and that's a fact No one is the desperate fan here, we're just different people with different opinion the only desperate one is someone who talks behind other's back on Discord

But still, I think this "debate" should be over, I don't see good result coming out of it, only conflicts. So, why don't we end it now, ignoring whoever reply about this next and move on to the next topic (like how awesome Nalu is)

 

[GamerSkull]

My take on a multitude of ships.

• NaLu (#1): Best relationship in the story.
• Elfgreen: They're pretty cute and like their interactions together.
• Jerza: Jellal needs to stop with the teen angst and I don't like Erza's shy nature when she's around Jellal. Wish she just acted the same around him without going all school girl.
• Gruvia: Juvia really needs a life of her own. It's sad her character got reduce to solely being Gray's wife.
• HappyCarla: They're adorable together. It's like the lowly commoner working his way into the heart of a princess.
• Nali: Stale and nonexistent at this point.
• AlBisc (?): I didn't like them at first but post x784 I really started to like them. They make an awesome family.
• Zervis: Meh, it'd probably be better when Zeref isn't trying to cause genocide.
• SherRen: Don't care for either.
• Gajevy: It was weird at first but I liked them now bcs of their development.
• Natza/Grayza/Gratsu: They're like siblings.
• GrayLu: Not for me.
• LoAries : Until Loke stops the playboy routine I don't see them happening.
• LoLu: Don't see how that'd work.
• Miraxus: Two badasses getting together and kicking ass together is just pure awesomeness. Laxus is a big softy on the inside and I'd think it'd be cool to see Mira bring that out.
• Dimcade: They act a lot similar and I like the little Dragneel parallelism going on.
• Saber 4: Ultimate fun foursome who are the hot squad of Fiore. Why stick them down to 2 when we all know they're all digging each other.
• Chendy: Rather wait till Wendy is in her later teens for her dating anyone. Little too young for my taste.
• RoWen: Same as above.
• LaLu: No just no.
• Fraxus: Could happen.
• Laxanna: No thank you.
• Bixanna: Where did that come from?
• Dimdish: Funny name, but I think they'd try to kill each other...again lol.
• Irene x anyone: Rather she stay single at least until someone worthy of her comes along.

LOL. There are some pairings there that I had no idea existed. How did LaLu even become a thing?

Although funnily enough I've seen quite a lot of GrayLu shippers. It must be one of the more popular crack pairings...

I've also seen StingLu which is another odd one.

 

[Gabo]

The creation of Multiple couples is something normal in the Fandom since the means exist Writings.

Let's say that since the 30's we saw the people who liked Superman Shipping with Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris or Wonder Woman we already had Ships wars, only with less intensity because there was no network.

The fact that the Fans create their own Ships is something normal, since it is part of the Fandom

In Rave Master there were people who preferred to see Elie with Sieghart or Haru with Belnika, without going too far remember the thousands of Couples that have been created for Pokemon, or the tremendous Ship Wars that had Naruto and Bleach. Therefore that many couples here are believed in the Fandoms there is nothing wrong.

It is more that shows how popular the series is because people start to create their Crack Ships and walks with it, they would not if they did not passionate the various characters.

So if we are going to get beaten by the couples in debate, let's do it in a civilized way, the joke is to have fun with it and get our crazy theories that for that is this section.

 

[EmptySoul]

Heres my opinion

Nalu:crack ship with no development(dontkillmepls)

Gajevy(2nd fav ship):cutest ship
Even though i didnt care for it before but it has really grown on me this arc

Gruvia:

Jerza(fav ship):hottest ship
their angst is delicious
although jellal needs to get his shit together and get with erza

Bonus

Ichiya x erza:believe ot or not,i used to ship these two in the past.

 

[BrandyThema]

Heres my opinion

Nalu:crack ship with no development(dontkillmepls)

Gajevy(2nd fav ship):cutest ship
Even though i didnt care for it before but it has really grown on me this arc

Gruvia:

Jerza(fav ship):hottest ship
their angst is delicious
although jellal needs to get his shit together and get with erza

Nah man, no one's going to, it's your view after all, different view makes things fun
If you can offer an explanation as to why you think the way you think, it'll be greater

I actually only ship Nalu in the most popular 4, the rest I just crack them 'cause why not

 

[GamerSkull]

I like almost all the ships myself. The only one I have a problem with personally is JERZA. I wish Mystogan stayed around and she had gotten with him instead.

But I have trouble with Jerza because there is so much baggage in their past over what happened at the Tower of Heaven that I could definitely see her forgiving him and accepting him as a comrade but I don't necessarily like that they became romantic. There's also the fact that I'm not the biggest fan of Jellal. (I don't hate him though)

It's just my personal opinion though. I don't think anybody else is wrong to ship them or like them. People should be allowed to feel differently.

 

[Gabo]

The problem is sometimes that many confuse how the Romance should be given.

Remember that love is not logical, auqneu Mashima in other sleeves has already given us the guidelines of how their partners are handled and well, remember that he is not to pair couples with childhood (unless it is Dramatica as In the case of Let and Reyna, that here is a similarity with the Jellal / Erza) but commonly the development we see in them is very similar, because the Fandom is made to the ideas of how they should be the same .

Come and then I would like to explain why I like some of these couples and my personal reasons.

 

[EmptySoul]

Nah man, no one's going to, it's your view after all, different view makes things fun
If you can offer an explanation as to why you think the way you think, it'll be greater

I actually only ship Nalu in the most popular 4, the rest I just crack them 'cause why not

Lol
I just dont feel the romance,you know
Im my opinion they only love each other as friends

OR perhaps im just being a hater

 

[BrandyThema]

Lol
I just dont feel the romance,you know
Im my opinion they only love each other as friends

OR perhaps im just being a hater

Nah mate, if anyone's being a hater, it's me I hate Gajevy to my core, so much that I refuse to read any chapter with both of them in it and everything I can say about them is all super negative (yeah sorry 'bout that )
And Nalu is just friends right now, so I completely understand why you think so

 

[Doughboy]

I agree with M3J on the fact that pure fanservice doesn't always (emphasis on always) equate to shipping moments. I agree with Gabo that in an ecchi/shonen manga where romance isn't prevalent or focused on it's a good way at times (emphasis on at times) to point potential ships. Let me give y'all an example:

Spoiler: 416

Spoiler: 446-447

I'm picking these off the top of my head. This is where I understand M3J's side, nobody will confuse which one of these moments is more romantic. The Nalu moments here are purely fanservice while the Gruvia are truly romantic. I'm not saying Nalu hasn't had romantic moments, don't assume that. The hug Lucy gave Natsu after he destroyed the gate was nothing but romantic, I get that. But we can't confuse fanservice moments w/ romantic moments if it's doesn't match up imo. It's like people are forcing themselves to think this:

• fanservice w/ someone = romance/shipping

while in truth it's really this:

• fanservice w/ someone ≠ romance/shipping

It honestly depends on the moment. OVA 4 or the Christmas special is a good example of fanservice = romantic, while something like Rogue groping Yukino which means Rogue loves her.....? It isn't. It's just comedy and that's the part I struggle to get w/ shipping. Crack ships are fun and I get why people like to do so, everyone is guilty of that lowkey but that's not my point. It's no question there are times where fanservice moments are romantic, of course, I'm not debating that. It's simply a fact that Nalu doesn't have the sheer amount of "romantic moments" as the others in the Big 4, flat out. It makes sense according to what Hiro recently said about them too, they're still in the friends phase. And I like Nalu alot, it's my favorite out of all of them so I'm not hating I'm just being real.

 

[Raven]

I agree with M3J on the fact that pure fanservice doesn't always (emphasis on always) equate to shipping moments. I agree with Gabo that in an ecchi/shonen manga where romance isn't prevalent or focused on it's a good way at times (emphasis on at times) to point potential ships. Let me give y'all an example:

Spoiler: 416

Spoiler: 446-447

I'm picking these off the top of my head. This is where I understand M3J's side, nobody will confuse which one of these moments is more romantic. The Nalu moments here are purely fanservice while the Gruvia are truly romantic. I'm not saying Nalu hasn't had romantic moments, don't assume that. The hug Lucy gave Natsu after he destroyed the gate was nothing but romantic, I get that. But we can't confuse fanservice moments w/ romantic moments if it's doesn't match up imo. It's like people are forcing themselves to think this:

• fanservice w/ someone = romance/shipping

while in truth it's really this:

• fanservice w/ someone ≠ romance/shipping

It honestly depends on the moment. OVA 4 or the Christmas special is a good example of fanservice = romantic, while something like Rogue groping Yukino which means Rogue loves her.....? It isn't. It's just comedy and that's the part I struggle to get w/ shipping. Crack ships are fun and I get why people like to do so, everyone is guilty of that lowkey but that's not my point. It's no question there are times where fanservice moments are romantic, of course, I'm not debating that. It's simply a fact that Nalu doesn't have the sheer amount of "romantic moments" as the others in the Big 4, flat out. It makes sense according to what Hiro recently said about them too, they're still in the friends phase. And I like Nalu alot, it's my favorite out of all of them so I'm not hating I'm just being real.

Yes it's something well known that the romance part ain't real yet i mean physically but their development has a good ground being together for more than 500+ chapters relying on each other and cares for each other unlike Gruvia, Gajevy and Jerza they don't have any better ground compared to NaLu. Mashima use fan service on NaLu constantly no one in Ft besides Natsu has been used with Lucy for fan service. The dozens of NaLu art on his twitter not to mention how Lucy cares for Natsu this arc like when she didn't leave Natsu's bed when he was hospitalized she worried about him when he gone missing when he went for zeref and she keep worrying about him to a point that she didn't realize that she was topless, Even Happy the closest friend to Natsu carried someone else while Lucy hurried to carry Natsu. Before they even decide on who will carry who it would have been Lucy carrying Juvia and Happy carrying Natsu but it didn't happen like that. Those are signs my friend.
The fact is the more NaLu is advancing the more hate you see from the haters. They can't accept this ship so they deludes themselves with Lissana feelings when it never existed but in anime thanks for anime team. They don't want NaLu to happen so they keep annoy us with non sense posts with no basis, Look at that person always spam spam spam bullshit and none sense because he is too salty because Nalu is getting real.

 

[**Silver**]

Natsu x Gray is best ship Fire and Ice and Mard Geer

 

[Doughboy]

Yes it's something well known that the romance part ain't real yet i mean physically but their development has a good ground being together for more than 500+ chapters relying on each other and cares for each other unlike Gruvia, Gajevy and Jerza they don't have any better ground compared to NaLu. Mashima use fan service on NaLu constantly no one in Ft besides Natsu has been used with Lucy for fan service. The dozens of NaLu art on his twitter not to mention how Lucy cares for Natsu this arc like when she didn't leave Natsu's bed when he was hospitalized she worried about him when he gone missing when he went for zeref and she keep worrying about him to a point that she didn't realize that she was topless, Even Happy carried Gray while Lucy grabbed Natsu. Before it probably would have been Juvia she choose to carry as oppose to Natsu all of that are real feelings.
The fact is the more NaLu is advancing the more hate you see from the haters. They can't accept this ship so they deludes themselves with Lissana feelings when it never existed but in anime thanks for anime team. They don't want NaLu to happen so they keep annoy us with non sense posts with no basis, Look at that person always spam spam spam bullshit and none sense because he is too salty because Nalu is getting real.

And this is something I 100% agree with, that's why I like Nalu. It's just nice to look at and their bond is amazing. Lisanna's love of Natsu was more of a puppy love type of thing to me so I'm sure why she's even in the discussion. Nobody is debating their bond, it's moreso their romantic development which I can objectively say it's not at all close to the others but it's gradually improving, especially in this arc.

 

[BrandyThema]

I agree with M3J on the fact that pure fanservice doesn't always (emphasis on always) equate to shipping moments. I agree with Gabo that in an ecchi/shonen manga where romance isn't prevalent or focused on it's a good way at times (emphasis on at times) to point potential ships. Let me give y'all an example:

Spoiler: 416

Spoiler: 446-447

I'm picking these off the top of my head. This is where I understand M3J's side, nobody will confuse which one of these moments is more romantic. The Nalu moments here are purely fanservice while the Gruvia are truly romantic. I'm not saying Nalu hasn't had romantic moments, don't assume that. The hug Lucy gave Natsu after he destroyed the gate was nothing but romantic, I get that. But we can't confuse fanservice moments w/ romantic moments if it's doesn't match up imo. It's like people are forcing themselves to think this:

• fanservice w/ someone = romance/shipping

while in truth it's really this:

• fanservice w/ someone ≠ romance/shipping

It honestly depends on the moment. OVA 4 or the Christmas special is a good example of fanservice = romantic, while something like Rogue groping Yukino which means Rogue loves her.....? It isn't. It's just comedy and that's the part I struggle to get w/ shipping. Crack ships are fun and I get why people like to do so, everyone is guilty of that lowkey but that's not my point. It's no question there are times where fanservice moments are romantic, of course, I'm not debating that. It's simply a fact that Nalu doesn't have the sheer amount of "romantic moments" as the others in the Big 4, flat out. It makes sense according to what Hiro recently said about them too, they're still in the friends phase. And I like Nalu alot, it's my favorite out of all of them so I'm not hating I'm just being real.

Ah, have you read my post a few pages before when I talk about fanservice? Please don't misunderstand that I'm saying fanservice = development, I was just pointing out that it's not okay to diss on us Nalu fans in general because we can think what we want, even in this matter

But anyway, I do agree with you on this matter, and I do think they'll have their romantic moment together. Nalu is different from other ships, I think, is that their development is extremely subtle but when you look back when they first met, it just feels so natural, so much that it could easily be missed if you're expecting some romance bomb thrown into your face, and that's the beauty of it

But I'm just gonna quote myself since it'll be easier to find

Thank you for that, in my opinion, I think ecchi is probably be one of the easiest ways for Mashima to handle these two and their relationship in those relaxing moments. Because the nature of Nalu is friendship, they are close friends and partners who likes each other's company and comfortable around each other. Natsu likes to tease Lucy as seen in the manga very early on, and he still teases her up to the recent chapters, they act a little bit like children when they're together, so to just throw in some extreme romantic speeches or hugs or kisses just wouldn't fit their characters in any way. Because of that, I think, the reason why Mashima chose ecchi is both because he's a pervert, and that he thinks it's fitting for their relationship right now.

Well, and this happened when Wendy first joined Fairy Tail:

Spoiler

If Mashima then was like Mashima now, he would've drawn like 4 panels of Lucy's top slowly burned into pieces with a bunch of focus on her boobs and people would call that fanservice. But the meaning behind it is still the same, they just mess around with each other and they're comfortable with it.

Plus I think that because Natsu and Lucy are main characters and have their own background, development, roles to play in the story so of course Mashima's not gonna make them all about the other. Mashima's said that he's drawing them as "more than friends, less then lovers". So all this END fiasco could be the romantic push that Nalu needs. When Natsu left Lucy a letter and went training for a year, she was really hurt and upset, thus creating a rift in their relationship. Mashima's brought it up a few times but let it slip under the rug, meaning they still need mending. And with all the events that are happening right now, Nalu's relationship might change dramatically and therefore, can show how they really feel about each other, he's just waiting for the right moment to slowly shift from "less" to "more" without damaging both Natsu and Lucy's characters, in my opinion.

 

[GamerSkull]

I do like the subtlety in Natsu and Lucy's relationship and while it's yet to get very romantic, I have a feeling it'll happen sooner than later with the current events of the manga. They've definitely gotten more comfortable around each other over the course of the series and they treat each other differently than they did at the very beginning. It's one of the things I enjoy about the ship.

 

[Hermit]

Spoiler: GruVia

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