Discussion Thoughts on the Dragon and Demon seeds?

[LordOTaco]

Natsu is a bit of a unique case when it comes to the Demon seed. The other Etherious likely didn't have one since they were demons from the start. While Zeref mentioned in the chapter following Tartaros that he had kept Natsu's body until he found a way to resurect him as END. So in essence Natsu is a demon with a human body hence the demon seed. Them merging might kill Natsu in the sense that the END part of him takes over completely. The demon seed representing END and the Dragon Seed representing the Natsu we know and love. I think its less of an issue of the seeds themselves and more of the internal struggle within Natsu. Which magic force will win out over his physical body sort if thing. I don't know maybe i'm reading too much into it.

 

[Raven]

I think the demon and dragon will eventually merge and he will likely have a 50/50 dragon/demon transformation. I don't like to see Natsu get that deformed form some may consider it dope but no. I think this fusion will change his eye color to red, pink and black hair, tattoos all over his body with no transformation.

The painting is displaying a guy with scarf fighting against Acnologia, The scarf that Anna made from Igneel scales and gave it to Natsu. That painting is is simply foreshadowing the ultimate Natsu vs Acnologia in the coming dragon king festival.

 

[Arjuna]

I think the demon and dragon will eventually merge and he will likely have a 50/50 dragon/demon transformation. I don't like to see Natsu get that deformed form some may consider it dope but no. I think this fusion will change his eye color to red, pink and black hair, tattoos all over his body with no transformation.

The painting is displaying a guy with scarf fighting against Acnologia, The scarf that Anna made from Igneel scales and gave it to Natsu. That painting is is simply foreshadowing the ultimate Natsu vs Acnologia in the coming dragon king festival.

Or may be it is in the past.Maybe in the past Acnologia and END clashed.

I am basing this is on the dress and building structures which is ancient.So that's why Igneel said Acnologia fears END.


Or maybe it's a foreshadowing in the future.

 

[Arjuna]

I don't think Natsu and Acnologia fought before, Acnologia didn't mention Natsu's name before but he knew that END is a book of Zeref. The problem is Mashima made Tartarous's credibly beyond zero with full of lies. I think he changed plans for the whole END thing in Alverz that's why we got very early Natsu vs Zeref to make END aka Natsu innocent and has no connections to the rest of the demons. Now END turned out to be a device than a separated identity seemingly to make Natsu around Acnologia's level. The Acnologia fears END and the whole END thing turned out to be a Joke since END didn't even exist in any event from 400 years but being little resurrected Natsu who traveled to the future. So why Acnologia should fear something that he didn't see before?

Well First of all we don't know whether Acnologia personally knows Natsu.He has never come face to face with Natsu till now(Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel's attack on Acnologia in Tenrou is only Anime only).

1)And END being not connected with Tartaros doesn't make him innocent though.We have Igneel trying to prevent END's revival in Tartaros and telling Natsu that he will be the one to defeat END.

2)Maybe END had an Etherious form and another personality.We don't really know until we get to see the backstory of END completely.


So we have to see when Demon Seed and Dragon Seed merging we may see Dragon form+END powers by Natsu.Then we may see END appearing after the fusion.And i feel all those images seen by Natsu are END.The things shown by them can only be known to END/Natsu.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Natsu is an Etherious so ofcourse he has a demon seed as he is a "Demon" not a human. On the other hand Gray is a human who uses Devil slayer magic, he doesn't have an etherious form.

 

[Doughboy]

Yeah I reread the chapter on mangastream today, Igneel made it out to seem like it's only Natsu who might have a demon seed. It does make more sense that, cause Etherious are 100% made of Ethernano, while Natsu is a Etherious remake in a human vessel. Why would something that's already born a demon need a demon seed, unless an Etherious' demon seed is already rooted from the day they were created.

 

[Libarian]

Or may be it is in the past.Maybe in the past Acnologia and END clashed.

I am basing this is on the dress and building structures which is ancient.So that's why Igneel said Acnologia fears END.


Or maybe it's a foreshadowing in the future.

This Idea occurred to me too the first time I saw that picture it still has some credit as if Natsu was not active during the war 400 then this page makes little sense http://www.mangaspy.com/FairyTail2017/301/18/ the dragon clearly switches personal pronouns right after seemingly looking at Natsu.

I think that the antibodies are fragments of the dragon's personalities and power and Natsu and Wendy will have to use that power cast out the true enemy that they currently face Natsu(END) and Wendy(Irene) As to what is the darkness that grows the seed and what made Natsu's start again. It is kinda corny but the inner demon basically giving into the baser tendencies or forgetting what it means to be human turns you into a dragon, and recently Natsu has been rather angry little surprise that the dragon seed is trying fuse/absorb the demon seed.

 

[Arjuna]

This Idea occurred to me too the first time I saw that picture it still has some credit as if Natsu was not active during the war 400 then this page makes little sense http://www.mangaspy.com/FairyTail2017/301/18/ the dragon clearly switches personal pronouns right after seemingly looking at Natsu.

I think that the antibodies are fragments of the dragon's personalities and power and Natsu and Wendy will have to use that power cast out the true enemy that they currently face Natsu(END) and Wendy(Irene) As to what is the darkness that grows the seed and what made Natsu's start again. It is kinda corny but the inner demon basically giving into the baser tendencies or forgetting what it means to be human turns you into a dragon, and recently Natsu has been rather angry little surprise that the dragon seed is trying fuse/absorb the demon seed.

I remember this panel
@Brandish what does CR translation say about this particular panel?


If it is same then it will be a revolution in the field in Demon Seed and Dragon Seed combination and it will prove that Natsu was a veteran in Dragon Civil war or atleast responsible for killing of Zirconis by Acnologia.