Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Leoat12]

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Except for the third one, all of them look promising for me. Well, there of them are veteran and we already had an idea of what expect in terms of drawing, let's see the story.
Excited to read Bokutachi wa Benkyou Dekinai. As always, the romance wins my heart. XD

 

[G_I_A]

Except for the third one, all of them look promising for me. Well, there of them are veteran and we already had an idea of what expect in terms of drawing, let's see the story.
Excited to read Bokutachi wa Benkyou Dekinai. As always, the romance wins my heart. XD

My thoughts exactly. Number 3 is instacancelled.

You need a real romance dude. Nisekoi probably took a few good months of your life.

 

[Spirit]

My thoughts exactly. Number 3 is instacancelled.

You need a real romance dude. Nisekoi probably took a few good months of your life.

Guilty
Nisekoi was a great ride, and the ending actually excited a lot of people, well the lead up to it anyway.

I haven't seen many series that have really caught my eye yet but it's still so early in the year. I find that some of the best promising series start during Winter.

 

[James Rye]

Since someone wants to read it, this is somehow a spoiler (but people already discussed it here so I'm not sure...)

Spoiler

Anyway Beelzebub romance was bad simply because it was all teasing that didn't go anywhere... I mean it was really clear that both Hilda (all those ship teases with the "other Hilda" were??? The general blushing and jealousy with the girls???) and Aoi (this we know for sure) were in "love" with Oga. Though the one with Aoi was handled better, Hilda's romance plot was basically ignored and forgotten by the end. I say if you're going to do this, don't tease anything at all and have zero romance without baiting.

I don't think we need spoilers for that. And the whole "Hilda actually might like Oga for real" plot wasn't the only thing which got dropped (sadly, Oga and Hilda had a badass chemistry going on, mostly bad but also some ass in it xD), remember the whole demon lords who agitate against Beel's daddy or that demon agent who worked for them or the whole "demon world adventure arc(s)"? Tamura had easier time working with demons being send to the human world than humans being send to the demon world.

Given that Tamura makes now an Action manga with romance as another major genre in it, I'm curious to see how his romance will actually go. Maybe like Kushuku Gakkou no Alice but with more fighting, he will for sure keep his comedy with some fights, like the whole "summon demons by putting tissues into your nose" stuff in Beelzebub.

 

[Doughboy]

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What's the series with the two girls and the nerdy dude on this poster? And Dr. Stone has a cool design. BOOKMARKED

 

[Kadir0]

All this scan wars going on and still no one's stealing TPN xD

 

[Spirit]

All this scan wars going on and still no one's stealing TPN xD

Well, come on if MS is Editing it from the get go, other small Scan Groups will just be overshadowed by the MS Releases.

 

[tirakai]

I really hope Japan finds and stops ms' early sources some day, like they did with panda. Imagine the fallout.

 

[Spirit]

I really hope Japan finds and stops ms' early sources some day, like they did with panda. Imagine the fallout.

And that would benefit us how exactly? Kill off half of these communities that rely on MS Releases?

 

[tirakai]

They wouldn't disappear, they'd just have series a day or two later (which would give other smaller groups a chance to get their versions out). There's no ability for competition when one site has translations out before anyone else even has raws.

Ideally of course nobody would get a release out until late Sunday/early Monday after the magazine officially comes in in Japan since it would make english Jump more competitive (hence making it more viable to run more series) but that'll never happen.

 

[Spirit]

They wouldn't disappear, they'd just have series a day or two later (which would give other smaller groups a chance to get their versions out). There's no ability for competition when one site has translations out before anyone else even has raws.

I can't say I don't think that you're preaching for a just cause, but even the sites that the smaller groups get the normal raws out have connections in Japan just like the larger Companies. I mean it's all the same thing, just money being involved.

 

[xAsum0x]

I think they all look pretty good, especially Boichis one, he's not writing it and I really enjoyed Eyeshield so I think it should be pretty good

 

[susanoo13]

As a fan of Eyeshield I'm very excited for the writer's return and also interested to see what Tamura will bring to the fray. I can't help to wonder when Gintama will end so it could have a "successor" as a comedy manga although Saiki quite fits the bill...besides the sales.

Also is it me or Robot and laserbeam hero looks similar to OPM's Saitama with hair?

 

[Mammo]

with the exception of U19, I like the art for all the new series
despite my warning not to judge what will be a success based on the preview some of you went a head and done that anyway

Since someone wants to read it, this is somehow a spoiler (but people already discussed it here so I'm not sure...)

Spoiler

Anyway Beelzebub romance was bad simply because it was all teasing that didn't go anywhere... I mean it was really clear that both Hilda (all those ship teases with the "other Hilda" were??? The general blushing and jealousy with the girls???) and Aoi (this we know for sure) were in "love" with Oga. Though the one with Aoi was handled better, Hilda's romance plot was basically ignored and forgotten by the end. I say if you're going to do this, don't tease anything at all and have zero romance without baiting.

Do you consider 1 sided love a romance? because I don't
Oga never cared about either chicks
and Hilda never cared for him too, it was made clear many times that she only loves Baby Beel

 

[Halloween]

All this scan wars going on and still no one's stealing TPN xD

I know, right? I keep checking jaimini to see if they swiped TPN, but nope. That's the one series they could swipe that would benefit the fans.

 

[Kefka Palazzo]

Why do people hate MangaStream this much? The only thing about them that piss me off is the watermarks. Seriously.

 

[Mammo]

this is not the place to discuss Edited Mangas groups

this isn't a general thread

 

[jagman1x3]

this is not the place to discuss Edited Mangas groups

this isn't a general thread

This, it's fine to talk about what groups are doing what Jump series and comparing multiple releases, but this looks like it's going to devolve into bashing on specific groups so I'm going to end the discussion here.

That said, I may as well say this: I have worked on various weekly series for over half a decade now (wow that makes me kind of depressed to type) and regardless of my personal opinion on any specific group's quality or lack thereof, I am aware of many behind-the-scenes things that go on to get stuff translated that most people are not. So trust me on this, wanting someone to steal a series from someone else is much, much more likely to piss everyone off than to do anything useful. People are going to try and get their releases out faster at the expense of quality, and if you're not going to put effort into something then there's really no reason to do it in the first place. I personally have had multiple series "stolen" from me and released faster than I could do them with garbage translations. One in particular just ended and had a particularly bad fuckup in the translation that now 99% of its readership thinks is completely accurate and has started coming up with disturbing (yet kind of hilarious) justifications to make it fit with what actually happened.
Also, wishing for early raw providers to get caught is just insanely hypocritical - you're literally hoping someone gets arrested (I have seen this happen to someone I know), and if you think scanning these magazines is a big enough crime to deserve jail, you should not be reading those scans. Plus it'd screw over anyone else getting scans from them, which might include something you actually like. (Again, this has happened to me, both as a reader and as someone actually using said scans to translate shit.)

Rant over, back to new series hype(?) I guess.

 

[Xzone]

Seems that shoseki releas a 2016 top 500 manga sales. This is the Jump stuff I find.
1 One Piece 81
2 One Piece 82
3 One Piece 83
7 HxH 33
8 One Piece 80
9 Assclass 18
10 Assclass 19
13 Haikyu 20
14 Assclass 20
16 Assclass 21
17 Haikyu 21
19 Haikyu 22
20 Haikyu 23
26 Kuroko no basket extra game
28 Haikyu 24
33 My hero academia 7
37 My hero academia 8
41 My hero academia 9
45 Assclass 17
48 Shokugeki no soma 16
51 My hero academia 10
52 Shokugeki no soma 17
59 Shokugeki no soma 18
63 My hero academia 11
65 Shokugeki no soma 19
68 Kochikame 200 40th aniversary edition
71 Boruto
77 Shokugeki no soma 20
78 Bleach 71
84 Bleach 72
87 Bleach 73
89 Bleach 74
96 Shokugeki no soma 21
103 World Trigger 14
105 My hero academia 6
106 World Trigger 15
117 My hero academia 4
118 My hero academia 5
121 My hero academia 1
122 My hero acdemia 3
129 World Trigger 16
131 My hero academia 2
133 Gintama 62
135 Gintama 63
136 Nisekoi 21
139 Gintama 64
146 Nisekoi 22
151 World Trigger 17
153 Nisekoi 23
157 Toriko 38
158 Boruto 2
174 Nisekoi 24
179 Nisekoi 25
183 Toriko 39
188 Gintama 65
197 Toriko 40
201 Black Clover 5
209 Toriko 41
212 Haikyu 19
214 Black Clover 6
226 Gintama 66
240 One Piece 79
241 Black Clover 7
257 Toriko 42
260 Assclass
294 Black Clover 8
310 Assclass 16
314 World Trigger Databook
342 Kochikame 200
345 Ghost Tits 1
373 Haikyu 18
390 Black Clover 9
417 Ghost Tits 2
433 Assclass 1
447 Kuroko no Basket extra game
457 Kuroko no basket Replace plus 3
474 Assclass 15
493 Haikyuu 17
496 Ghost Tits 3
497 Black Clover 4

 

[justanotherone]

Do you consider 1 sided love a romance? because I don't
Oga never cared about either chicks
and Hilda never cared for him too, it was made clear many times that she only loves Baby Beel

What? It was clear that Hilda liked Oga or at least cared about BOTH of them, the author "wasted" so many arcs on that so I don't know how you can deny it... like I said the whole issue with Aoi was handled well but how can you not see the blatant ship teasing with Hilda and Oga? Anyway I won't change my take because... how did you miss all those hints with Hilda (es. when he came to save her, those arcs with the "other Hilda" and many others)? But they never had a resolution and that's what made me angry.