Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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This whole Edited Manga war is stupid. If anyone should be mad at Mangastream it should be Viz and English Shonen Jump. I don't get why other Manga Editor groups are so pissed that someone else is translating a series they never had a license for to begin with
I guess it's a matter of respect in the Manga Editor community? In any case, you're correct. They can only get so mad at another group since they themselves are the ones hosting it illegally anyway.
 

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I guess it's a matter of respect in the Manga Editor community? In any case, you're correct. They can only get so mad at another group since they themselves are the ones hosting it illegally anyway.
I suppose. But in my opinion there is no "respect code" when this entire business revolves around pirating.

I'm not going to act like I don't read Edited Mangas when some come out(I'm also subbed to Jump so I read officially too), but don't feel bad for other groups being upset that someone else is translating series they never owned
 

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This whole Edited Manga war is stupid. If anyone should be mad at Mangastream it should be Viz and English Shonen Jump. I don't get why other Manga Editor groups are so pissed that someone else is translating a series they never had a license for to begin with
I wouldn't say they're pissed, Its just people scanlate as a hobby. And if a group has been doing a series for a long time, obviously they enjoy the series and Editing it. if its been going on for a while they've potentially put hundreds of hours into getting the series out to the readers. The harsh truth about Edited Manga is that if you don't release first, 99% of people won't read your release. So when another group picks up a series you've put so much effort into for no real reason and starts releasing faster just because they can, you can't just expect those people to take it lying down and stop working on the series. Of course picking up something other people are already doing a good job of and have been doing for ages is going to cause sparks to fly. Its disrespectful, although no one seems to care for that. If they want to do the series so badly, they should help rather than compete... But of course they don't because they have ulterior motives for picking up the series in the first place.
 
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The english title of that new series is called "We Can't Study" right? Even with those last two panels I'm very interested in it. Both the two girls look good so I will have no problems how it ends out.
 

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I wouldn't say they're pissed, Its just people scanlate as a hobby. And if a group has been doing a series for a long time, obviously they enjoy the series and Editing it. if its been going on for a while they've potentially put hundreds of hours into getting the series out to the readers. The harsh truth about Edited Manga is that if you don't release first, 99% of people won't read your release. So when another group picks up a series you've put so much effort into for no real reason and starts releasing faster just because they can, you can't just expect those people to take it lying down and stop working on the series. Of course picking up something other people are already doing a good job of and have been doing for ages is going to cause sparks to fly. Its disrespectful, although no one seems to care for that. If they want to do the series so badly, they should help rather than compete...
I don't really believe in "Honor Among Thieves". Hobby or not, it's not something you've had rights to. If someone else wants to pick it up they can, and it's not disrespectful because the series isn't your property. In this case all the series belong to Jump. If it's disrespectful to anyone it's disrespectful to Viz Media and US Shonen Jump. If the translators of the Edited Mangas places love the hobby so much maybe they should seek a professionals career in translating
 

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Liked BS color page , sorry BC.
Still Dumbsta 24/7!! Seriously that dude/retard is op , even more than Camille.
 

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I don't really believe in "Honor Among Thieves". Hobby or not, it's not something you've had rights to. If someone else wants to pick it up they can, and it's not disrespectful because the series isn't your property. In this case all the series belong to Jump. If it's disrespectful to anyone it's disrespectful to Viz Media and US Shonen Jump. If the translators of the Edited Mangas places love the hobby so much maybe they should seek a professionals career in translating
Of course no one has the rights so anyone can pick it up. But that's exactly why there is a "Edited Manga war" in the first place. You said it's stupid, but you just justified to yourself why it's not. Because people do what they want. One group is doing a series, Another wants to so does it as well="Edited Manga war." It's that simple, even without mentioning "honor" and "disrespect." I'm just responding to your initial statement on how it's not stupid.
 

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Welp guess this manga is trying to get as many cheap votes as possible. What a terrible way to start.
 

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It's stupid because in the case of MangaStream they only pick famous series because they know that they can release faster and will steal other Edited Manga audience. They pick the series only when it is already famous. I can understand how irritating it can be. Also, it is redundancy and redundancy is stupid. There are 3-4 groups doing the series of the moment, but nobody doing less famous ones.
 

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Of course no one has the rights so anyone can pick it up. But that's exactly why there is a "Edited Manga war" in the first place. You said it's stupid, but you just justified to yourself why it's not. Because people do what they want. One group is doing a series, Another wants to so does it as well="Edited Manga war." It's that simple, even without mentioning "honor" and "disrespect." I'm just responding to your initial statement on how it's not stupid.
Let's just agree to disagree
 

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It's stupid because in the case of MangaStream they only pick famous series because they know that they can release faster and will steal other Edited Manga audience. They pick the series only when it is already famous. I can understand how irritating it can be. Also, it is redundancy and redundancy is stupid. There are 3-4 groups doing the series of the moment, but nobody doing less famous ones.
i hate when they just drop stuff for no reason. why pick something up for just three or four chapters?
 

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Liked BS color page , sorry BC.
Still Dumbsta 24/7!! Seriously that dude/retard is op , even more than Camille.
Camille is perfectly balanced :D
 

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Please stop judging series from the spoiler and just wait for viz translation !!!!!
and there are nothing going on with mangastream & jaimini's box; it's just between fans,,,,,,
 

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Camille is perfectly balanced :D
When Fallen Angel's was translating MHA, they made a commitment to only translate the manga on Mondays after the Viz release for people that couldn't get Viz. It pissed some people off because the raws were out and they had to wait 4 days for a translated chapter. IMO it allowed Mangastream to steal their readers, and really until recently they began translating it early again. Imo they should've just kept sticking to what they were doing on Mondays since it makes them seem more honorable (ironic I know)
 

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About the whole Edited Manga thing, I don't think the Manga Editors should get pissed off with MangaStream even if they "steal" their series and audience. If they steal your audience, keep on Editing in a better quality than they and I guarantee that some faithful people will keep using your Edited Mangas. It's not like people translate manga because of the audience, right?
 

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It's been debated endlessly everywhere.
Scanning something from chapter one doesn't make you the rightful owner.
You're translating illegally copyrighted stuff.
 
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