Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Koi Kage]

It sounds funny, but if it's a gag then something has to give with all these gag manga in the magazine. Dr Stone next week

Lets all hope Dr. Stone isn't a gag manga also lol.
Though the summary of Dr. Stone we've gotten for it, as stated by ANN, makes it sound like a post-apocalyptic setting. I personally feel it may not survive it has TPN in the magazine already so the likely hood of it staying are slime to none. I could be entirely wrong and I hope I am because it could be really good.

 

[WyldViolet]

Lets all hope Dr. Stone isn't a gag manga also lol.
Though the summary of Dr. Stone we've gotten for it, as stated by ANN, makes it sound like a post-apocalyptic setting. While that is different for Jump, and would be a nice addition to the line up. I personally feel it may not survive on the fact that most post-apocalyptic manga that I've read have been seinen manga which may not appeal to Shounen Jump readers. I could be entirely wrong and I hope I am because it could be really good.

Uhm, The Promised Neverland? Hokuto no Ken?

 

[Koi Kage]

Uhm, The Promised Neverland? Hokuto no Ken?

Haven't gotten around to reading those yet sorry if they fall under post-apocalyptic ^^;

 

[xAsum0x]

Lets all hope Dr. Stone isn't a gag manga also lol.
Though the summary of Dr. Stone we've gotten for it, as stated by ANN, makes it sound like a post-apocalyptic setting. While that is different for Jump, and would be a nice addition to the line up. I personally feel it may not survive on the fact that most post-apocalyptic manga that I've read have been seinen manga which may not appeal to Shounen Jump readers. I could be entirely wrong and I hope I am because it could be really good.

You know The Promised Neverland is post apocalyptic right

 

[savethecat]

Lets all hope Dr. Stone isn't a gag manga also lol.
Though the summary of Dr. Stone we've gotten for it, as stated by ANN, makes it sound like a post-apocalyptic setting. While that is different for Jump, and would be a nice addition to the line up. I personally feel it may not survive on the fact that most post-apocalyptic manga that I've read have been seinen manga which may not appeal to Shounen Jump readers. I could be entirely wrong and I hope I am because it could be really good.

Hungry Marie is comedy but it's also described as an action series. So it seems like it'll fall more in line with series like Dragon Ball and One Piece that blend comedy and action.

 

[G_I_A]

Does anyone have the numbers for Jump's total magazine sales for 2005 and on? I'm just curious if there is a financial urgency or incentives to bring back this many veterans at once.

In the last 2 years they lost a lot of veteran series? Isn't enough?

 

[WyldViolet]

Hungry Marie is comedy but it's also described as an action series. So it seems like it'll fall more in line with series like Dragon Ball and One Piece that blend comedy and action.

...or it may have a similar structure to Beelzebub and alternate between and/or blend genre's by arc.

 

[G_I_A]

...or it may have a similar structure to Beelzebub and alternate between and/or blend genre's by arc.

It most certainly will be that. Beelzebub was awesome... I still don't get it why it was canceled...

 

[WyldViolet]

It most certainly will be that. Beelzebub was awesome... I still don't get it why it was canceled...

I don't either. Probably the cancelled anine affected it's popularity.
The tissue arc is one of my all time favorite Jump arcs though and the series still had tons of potential.
At least the Gaiden works pretty well as an ending.

 

[savethecat]

...or it may have a similar structure to Beelzebub and alternate between and/or blend genre's by arc.

I never read Beelzebub

 

[WyldViolet]

I never read Beelzebub

Okay, think a more grounded Gintama then.

 

[tirakai]

are the veterans really that big of a deal this time around though?

Beel never went above mid-magazine level popularity and dropped off towards the end, Tsutsui's only well known series is a spin-off of another mid-magazine series that dropped off towards the end, Boichi only big thing is a seinen series from a different publisher with no adaptations, and Murata was always the one in the spotlight for Eyeshield 21 rather than the writer.

Fujimaki's the only massively popular returning creator when you really think about it.

 

[WyldViolet]

are the veterans really that big of a deal this time around though?

Beel never went above mid-magazine level popularity and dropped off towards the end, Tsutsui's only well known series is a spin-off of another mid-magazine series that dropped off towards the end, Boichi only big thing is a seinen series from a different publisher with no adaptations, and Murata was always the one in the spotlight for Eyeshield 21 rather than the writer.

Fujimaki's the only massively popular returning creator when you really think about it.

I also don't think Fujimaki is going to find success this time around.
If it wasn't for the fujo's and a popular sport KnB would have been dead like it's early rankings made seem like would happen.

 

[tirakai]

Golf is a lot more popular than basketball in Japan, but how popular the sport is doesn't make much of a difference anyway. The second biggest series in Jump right now is about volleyball.

 

[G_I_A]

are the veterans really that big of a deal this time around though?

Beel never went above mid-magazine level popularity and dropped off towards the end, Tsutsui's only well known series is a spin-off of another mid-magazine series that dropped off towards the end, Boichi only big thing is a seinen series from a different publisher with no adaptations, and Murata was always the one in the spotlight for Eyeshield 21 rather than the writer.

Fujimaki's the only massively popular returning creator when you really think about it.

Beel received an anime. None of the "mid magazine level popularity" series nowadays got one. Ok, Tsutsui is NO Veteran... Plz stop this... None of his works are relevant whatsoever... And don't come to me with the "Nisekoi spin off" thing...

Boichi is Boichi... We don't need to discuss this... And come on, despite Murata being himself, Eyeshield 21 is not only good because of it's art... Not at all.

Fujimaki is the main issue right now. We don't know a thing about his series... But I don't think it will be bad.

 

[jagman1x3]

I also don't think Fujimaki is going to find success this time around.
If it wasn't for the fujo's and a popular sport KnB would have been dead like it's early rankings made seem like would happen.

He's got the fujos automatically, and golf is way more popular than you'd think in Japan. There's literally a monthly magazine just for golf manga, it'll take a lot for it to not get an audience.

 

[WyldViolet]

Golf is a lot more popular than basketball in Japan, but how popular the sport is doesn't make a difference anyway. The second biggest series in Jump right now is about volleyball.

Is it popular with 12 year olds though?
The only mangaka who managed to make a popular golf manga in Jump was Nakaba Suzuki.
Fujimaki is no Nakaba.

 

[IHateAsta]

Beelzebub : Great characters , nice action + lots of laughs
why would anyone not read it? <3

 

[WyldViolet]

He's got the fujos automatically, and golf is way more popular than you'd think in Japan. There's literally a monthly magazine just for golf manga, it'll take a lot for it to not get an audience.

Meh, I'll take your word for it.
I still feel like he's such a poor writer that it might count against a new serialization.
He doesnt have art as a crutch like Tabata.

 

[jagman1x3]

Meh, I'll take your word for it.
I still feel like he's such a poor writer that it might count against a new serialization.
He doesnt have art as a crutch like Tabata.

I mean, going by the average actual yaoi series, I highly doubt the fujos are reading for the art unless every single one of them has some bizarre fetish for pointy chins and enormous hands and I'm just going to stop thinking about this now.