So a huge debate is finally over.We can finally say with full proof that August is > Gildarts.
Why do you put Ezel, who's pretty average, at Sayla level? Sayla who toyed with Mira.Etherious ranking:
1. END
2. Larcade
3. Bradman
4. Mard Geer Tartaros/Alegria
5. Kyouka/Silver Fullbuster
6. Sayla/Ezel/Torafuzar
7. Tempesta/Jackal
8. Franmalth
9. Keyes
Wait didn't Ezel and Jackal had lower Curse Power than Tempesta.Both of them had 600 each compared to Tempesta's 1200,infact he had more than Torafuza who had 1000.Etherious ranking:
1. END
2. Larcade
3. Bradman
4. Mard Geer Tartaros/Alegria
5. Kyouka/Silver Fullbuster
6. Sayla/Ezel/Torafuzar
7. Tempesta/Jackal
8. Franmalth
9. Keyes
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Happy was probably just the boundary of explosion so his hair only got grazed.Why do you put Ezel, who's pretty average, at Sayla level? Sayla who toyed with Mira.
Also, Why is Tempesta so low in the list? He stomped the Thunder Tribe and got low diffed by Laxus, i guess those feats are mediocre. But his showings against Natsu was the exact same than what Torafuzar showed against Gajeel, when Natsu and Gajeel were in competition to defeat their Etherious faster.
Imo Tempesta is similar to Torafuzar. Plus, despite losing against Laxus, he still managed to greatly sicken Laxus in the process, something that would have eventually killed him. That's a pretty decent feat.
Jackal also tried a suicidal move; however, this move was tanked by Happy. I mean, imo there's no way Tempesta is equal to Jackal.
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Yeah, I think Brandish and Dimaria's power have limits on who they can effect based on the amount of magical power. When it comes to Brandish and Dimaria versus eachother, I tend to think the victor is whoever makes the first move. Brandish can probbaly beat Dimaria if she casts her magic first and shrinks her (like the way she has her now). Jacob is another story. We don't know if there are limits on who he can transport (there probably is), but the bigger weakness is that you can intercept his transport by hitting him before he claps.Good list the problem is people with hax ablites like brandish Jacob and dimaria in a 1v1 fight they are almost unbeatable (they can't beat dragons,zeref,august and Irene.) but I thought about END when he was able to break though age seal. And brandish magic not working against enchanted nienhart Im guessing if you have more magic power u can break though the hax?? Or it's the same old FT the plot demands BS to happen.
Why do you put Ezel, who's pretty average, at Sayla level? Sayla who toyed with Mira.
Also, Why is Tempesta so low in the list? He stomped the Thunder Tribe and got low diffed by Laxus, i guess those feats are mediocre. But his showings against Natsu was the exact same than what Torafuzar showed against Gajeel, when Natsu and Gajeel were in competition to defeat their Etherious faster.
Imo Tempesta is similar to Torafuzar. Plus, despite losing against Laxus, he still managed to greatly sicken Laxus in the process, something that would have eventually killed him. That's a pretty decent feat.
Jackal also tried a suicidal move; however, this move was tanked by Happy. I mean, imo there's no way Tempesta is equal to Jackal.
Actually I wanted to only list high-ranked etherious demons such as END, Larcade, Bradman, Mirajane Alegria, and Mard Geer (maybe Silver and Kyouka too) but then I somehow changed my mind. Confused about where I should rank Mirajane Alegria. Thoughts?Wait didn't Ezel and Jackal had lower Curse Power than Tempesta.Both of them had 600 each compared to Tempesta's 1200,infact he had more than Torafuza who had 1000.
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Happy was probably just the boundary of explosion so his hair only got grazed.
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All facts are written here.
I forgot DelioraDeliora
Thanks. Great listWhere do you put Deliora though?Deliora was stronger than Ur who should be on the level of a Mid Tier Wizard Saint like Bluenote or bit stronger.Actually I wanted to only list high-ranked etherious demons such as END, Larcade, Bradman, Mirajane Alegria, and Mard Geer (maybe Silver and Kyouka too) but then I somehow changed my mind. Confused about where I should rank Mirajane Alegria. Thoughts?
Yeah I agree with you Takuan. And thanks for the pic natsulucy.
I forgot DelioraThanks. Great list
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That's not bad of a list. Mine is somewhat similar.Etherious ranking:
1. END
2. Larcade
3. Bradman
4. Mard Geer Tartaros/Alegria
5. Kyouka/Silver Fullbuster
6. Sayla/Ezel/Torafuzar
7. Tempesta/Jackal
8. Franmalth
9. Keyes
Ur had the same hype as Tower of Heaven-arc Erza, as being recognized as potentially becoming a Wizard Saint. Bluenote would have been on to GMG-arc Jura's level, as Bluenote was going toe to toe with Tenrou-arc Gildarts and Jura was hyped to be a match for that version of Gildarts. This is top of the conventional Wizard Saints, right below an Ishgar Heavenly King. Deliora was probably on the level of a stronger 9 demon gate, like Silver or Kyouka.Where do you put Deliora though?Deliora was stronger than Ur who should be on the level of a Mid Tier Wizard Saint like Bluenote or bit stronger.
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END no doubt
Larcade
Bloodman
Mard Geer
Deliora
Kyoka
Silver (though not an Etherious)
Sayla
Tempesta
Torafuza
Franmalth
Jackal
Ezel
Keith
Lullaby
Irene is weaker than august how is ajeel stronger than Jacob? My list 1. August 2.Irene 3.lacarde 4.dimaria/brandish 5.god Serena 6.wahl 7.bradman 8.invel 9.jacob 10.ajeel 11.nienhartNow that they're all dead or KO :
1/ Eileen
2/ August
3/ Rakheid
4/ Dimaria & Brandish
5/ Invel, Wahl, God Serena, Bradman & Ajeel
6/ Jacob
7/ Neinhart
Why is Brandish high ranking?Irene is weaker than august how is ajeel stronger than Jacob? My list 1. August 2.Irene 3.lacarde 4.dimaria/brandish 5.god Serena 6.wahl 7.bradman 8.invel 9.jacob 10.ajeel 11.nienhart
My two major qualms with this overall good list are the placements of Natsu (Igneel's power) and Jellal.Dragon Kings:
Acnologia/Igneel
High Dragon:
Grandeeney/Metalicana/Skiadrum/Weisslogia/Natsu(Igneel's power)
Average Dragon:
Zeref/August/Irene/Motherglare/Atlas Flame
Low Dragon:
Gildarts/Natsu(FDKm)/Laxus/Zilconis
High Spriggan:
Larcade/Erza/Natsu(base/END)/Gray(DeS)/Gajeel/Sting(WSD)/Jellal
Average Spriggan:
Gray(base)/Mirajane/Chelia/God Serena/Jacob/Neinhart/Brandish/Dimaria/Bloodman/Invel/Ajeel
Ishgar Saints:
Hyperion/Wolfheim/Warrod/Makarov/Jura/Bluenote/Kagura/Sting/Rogue/Minerva
The reason I put Natsu on the same level as a parent dragon was because he had Igneel's power. Igneel's magical power is second to only Acnologia, and Natsu was using Igneel's power. Offensively, he has the means to kill Zeref. Zeref is also the exception in his tier in that he is immortal. Natsu would have a far easier time killing anyone else who is not immortal. Natsu can also burn away at Zeref's magic. In order for me to believe Zeref can beat Igneel-powered Natsu, I have to believe he can overpower Igneel's power. Right now, I have Zeref's offensive capabilities below August and Irene's. His most impressive feat is the blast he used against Larcade. I don't see that attack as being on a completely different level compared to the one he used against Natsu. Even if it stronger, I don't see the power difference between the two spells as greater than the power difference between "Natsu raising his hand" and the FDK mode finisher he used against Zeref. I could change my mind if Zeref starts showing stronger attacks in the current fight with Natsu. However, he would need to dominate Natsu in a pretty extreme fashion.My two major qualms with this overall good list are the placements of Natsu (Igneel's power) and Jellal.
It's difficult to judge Natsu(Igneel's power) vs Zeref.
We know that Natsu's final attack would've likely taken down Zeref
We know that Zeref was not even trying at all, against IgNatsu
So I can't really say that IgNatsu is a tier above Zeref just because he has an attack that can take him down.
If Zeref decided to get serious, IMO Natsu would've lost.
High Dragon
all characters you listed minus IgNatsu.
Sub Tier
Zeref
Average Dragon
Ig Natsu,
sub tier
August, Irene, Motherglare, Atlas Flame.
Jellal has been really underwhelming this arc, and I'd say his lover Erza even has better feats than him now, so I'd play him a sub tier below those guys (not much above Mira), or at the very least on Mirajane's level.
Also I'd put FDK Natsu below Gildartz and Laxus. Not on their tier.
Well where do you put Base Natsu now?Granted Zeref hasn't gone all out but Natsu too hasn't gone all out.But they are equal now.It seems to me that after the seeds broke,Natsu became stronger.The reason I put Natsu on the same level as a parent dragon was because he had Igneel's power. Igneel's magical power is second to only Acnologia, and Natsu was using Igneel's power. Offensively, he has the means to kill Zeref. Zeref is also the exception in his tier in that he is immortal. Natsu would have a far easier time killing anyone else who is not immortal. Natsu can also burn away at Zeref's magic. In order for me to believe Zeref can beat Igneel-powered Natsu, I have to believe he can overpower Igneel's power. Right now, I have Zeref's offensive capabilities below August and Irene's. His most impressive feat is the blast he used against Larcade. I don't see that attack as being on a completely different level compared to the one he used against Natsu. Even if it stronger, I don't see the power difference between the two spells as greater than the power difference between "Natsu raising his hand" and the FDK mode finisher he used against Zeref. I could change my mind if Zeref starts showing stronger attacks in the current fight with Natsu. However, he would need to dominate Natsu in a pretty extreme fashion.
Admittedly, Jellal is working off mostly hype right now. Still, Jellal oneshotted Neinhart with Grand Chariot. I'm a bit hesitant to put him on Mirajane's level because he seemed to be in perfect condition after his fight with Neinhart, whilst Jacob seemed to take a lot out of Mirajane. And there's the whole fighting blind thing that Jacob has going on.
On Gray/Gajeel/Erza's level. IMO, Zeref's strongest attribute his immortality, which translate into his durability and endurance. Zeref's offensive capabilities is on human Irene's level. He doesn't have the physical strength of Irene's dragon form or nukes like August's melt.Well where do you put Base Natsu now?Granted Zeref hasn't gone all out but Natsu too hasn't gone all out.But they are equal now.It seems to me that after the seeds broke,Natsu became stronger.
Well he could keep up with IgNatsu that time and infact injured IgNatsu few times,the most prominent being the scar on his face.So i don't think his offense is no less bad if he could injure a Dragon Powered Mage.On Gray/Gajeel/Erza's level. IMO, Zeref's strongest attribute his immortality, which translate into his durability and endurance. Zeref's offensive capabilities is on human Irene's level. He doesn't have the physical strength of Irene's dragon form or nukes like August's melt.
We all know how insignificant AoE is in this manga.Well he could keep up with IgNatsu that time and infact injured IgNatsu few times,the most prominent being the scar on his face.So i don't think his offense is no less bad if he could injure a Dragon Powered Mage.
What Zeref lacks is AOE.
I don't consider scratches as being that significant to be honest. Characters can get roughed up and dirty even if they are in tip-top fighting condition, and Natsu seemed more exhausted by using up Igneel's power than he was injured by Zeref's attacks. If cuts were anything to go off by, then Neinhart being able to cut up Natsu (and Brandish) is a greater offensive feat than Zeref's current attacks. August's melt nuke, on the other hand, was able to knock down Natsu. If Universe One didn't interfere, he would have been left vulnerable.Well he could keep up with IgNatsu that time and infact injured IgNatsu few times,the most prominent being the scar on his face.So i don't think his offense is no less bad if he could injure a Dragon Powered Mage.
What Zeref lacks is AOE.
She has an organ buster feat she has size magic she can reduce the rest of spriggans to an ant nienhart get fodderized the enchanted was a temporary power up dimaria is debatable is all about who make the first move either of them could winWhy is Brandish high ranking?
She get lose against Dimaria and Neinhart. For me she is the weakst spriggan.
High Top Tier(two-three league above other spriggans):
1.August
2.Irene
High Tier:
3.Larcarde
4/5.Dimaria
5/4.GodSerena
6.Invel
Mid Tier:
7.Whal
8.Bloodman
9.Jacob
10.Ajeel
11.Neinhart
12.Brandish