Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Mammo]

Viz better pick up the series next week. I don't want to wake up in a cold sweat and see We Can't Study...

someone is setting himself up for disappointment

Here were the final results for Manga Taisho 2017.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...ru-hoho-wins-10th-manga-taisho-awards/.114009
1. Hibiki: Shosetsuka ni Naru Hoho - 67 pts
2. Kin no Kuni Mizu no Kuni - 64 pts
3. Dungeon Meshi - 63 pts
4. Aoashi - 60 pts
5. Nami yo Kiite Kure./Wave, Listen to Me. - 48 pts
6. The Promised Neverland - 43 pts
7. Golden Gold - 42 pts
8. Fire Punch - 37 pts
9. Hi Score Girl - 33 pts
10. Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san - 30 pts
11. Watashi no Shonen - 20 pts
12. Tokyo Tarareba Musume - 18 pts
13. Kutei Dragons - 9 points

Congrats to Hibiki

I don't think Neverland should've been nominated in the first place, it was too early for it to win awards

Fire Punch loss and its only seven? wtf

*insert Star Wars Sad Medley theme here*

 

[Halloween]

I don't think Neverland should've been nominated in the first place, it was too early for it to win awards

This manga award was specifically for new manga, though. "Too early" doesn't matter in this instance.

 

[G_I_A]

I don't follow all this manga, but Ao Ashi is a soccer manga... They are ALL... ALL worse than Captain Tsubasa... How da hell can this shit be better than TPN?

This makes no sense.

 

[Nakura]

At what point did Haikyu's art style begin to shift? I'm reading my volume 9 and I love the art, so it just made me curious.

 

[TyVip]

At what point did Haikyu's art style begin to shift? I'm reading my volume 9 and I love the art, so it just made me curious.

Around chapter ~110-ish, but you can SEE the shift is around chapter ~120, so volume 14.

So volume 13~14 onward?

 

[Nakura]

Around chapter ~110-ish, but you can SEE the shift is around chapter ~120, so volume 14.

So volume 13~14 onward?

Thank you! I'm just getting depressed reading this because I'm not a fan of the current art style at all.

 

[TyVip]

I strongly believe the Taisho Award is based more on enjoyment instead of quality. More like 60% enjoyment 40% quality. Since the bookstore staffs are the judges/committees, these manga are the one they want to introduce to readers.

TPN is still qualify for 2018 Manga Taisho Award, so if it keeps up the quality/enjoyment then it will land a nomination.

Also, does TPN qualify for the Tezuka Award? I only read Phoenix and Black Jack so I am still not sure about "recognizing the manga that best follow his tradition."

 

[SharkBait]

I hope the newest promised neverland chaptera ranks incredibly low. The writer seems inspired by kill em all iseyama.

I wish we got more mangas like BLack Clover, stuff that doesnt make me cry and feels emotions. I hate neverland.

 

[Xzone]

That look more a joke than a bait.
You need to become a comedian, sharkbait.

PD:Except the part you write "mangas" , that make me rage.

 

[tirakai]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...onen-jump-50th-anniversary-exhibition/.113988

Small bit of info on the first 50th anniversary exhibition (the one covering the magazine's launch up into the 80s).

I've never heard of Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho before, though it seems to have been a series from almost the very beginning of wsj and all I know from that era is the Go Nagai stuff.

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[Mammo]

This manga award was specifically for new manga, though. "Too early" doesn't matter in this instance.

I didn't know that

but still even for a new manga it's still too early for the work to win any awards imo, the first arc isn't even over

 

[TyVip]

I didn't know that

but still even for a new manga it's still too early for the work to win any awards imo, the first arc isn't even over

Weekly manga only have 1 year to ~1.5 years to be qualify (4~5 volumes/year). Taisho Award only take less than 8 volumes published, so TPN can qualify for 2018 Taisho Award and that's it.

As I said above, they probably judge the manga based on the volumes published that year and not current chapters, and probably enjoyment > quality (imo) since the judges are bookstores staffs. You only need 1 volume published to get a nomination (Ryuu no Kawaii Nanatsu no Ko,Hikidashi ni Terrarium)

 

[iceemperor]

I strongly believe the Taisho Award is based more on enjoyment instead of quality. More like 60% enjoyment 40% quality. Since the bookstore staffs are the judges/committees, these manga are the one they want to introduce to readers.

TPN is still qualify for 2018 Manga Taisho Award, so if it keeps up the quality/enjoyment then it will land a nomination.

Also, does TPN qualify for the Tezuka Award? I only read Phoenix and Black Jack so I am still not sure about "recognizing the manga that best follow his tradition."

Pretty much every manga can qualify for the Tezuka Cultural Prize, though the closest a Shonen jump series got to the grand prize was Hikaru no Go where it got the newcomer/creative prize. One piece was a finalist in 2000 but ultimately didn't win.


Last week's TV Ratings (yet to be confirmed on the official site but has been accurate for the past few months) have been posted on 2ch:

サザエさん放送２４００回記念スペシャル フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 18:00 - 60 10.6
名探偵コナン 日本テレビ '17/03/25(土) 18:00 - 30 6.8
ワンピース フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 9:30 - 30 6.6
ドラゴンボール超 フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 9:00 - 30 5.5
ポケットモンスターサン＆ムーン テレビ東京 '17/03/23(木) 18:55 - 30 4.4
僕のヒーローアカデミア 日本テレビ '17/03/25(土) 17:30 - 30 3.3
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ疾風伝・最終回 テレビ東京 '17/03/23(木) 19:25 - 28 3.2
アニメおさるのジョージ ＮＨＫＥテレ '17/03/25(土) 8:35 - 25 3.1
アニメひつじのショーン ＮＨＫＥテレ '17/03/25(土) 9:00 - 20 2.9
妖怪ウォッチ テレビ東京 '17/03/24(金) 18:25 - 30 2.7

 

[TyVip]

Pretty much every manga can qualify for the Tezuka Cultural Prize, though the closest a Shonen jump series got to the grand prize was Hikaru no Go where it got the newcomer/creative prize. One piece was a finalist in 2000 but ultimately didn't win.

Tezuka's Grand Prize winners are usually seinen/josei work.

I just look a little bit further. WSJ series have a higher chance of winning the Shogakukan Award. Dr Slump , Kinnikuman, Yu Yu Hakusho, Slam Dunk, Hikaru no Go, Leader den Takeshi, Bleach, Sket Dance and finally Haikyuu (2015).

 

[savethecat]

Pretty much every manga can qualify for the Tezuka Cultural Prize, though the closest a Shonen jump series got to the grand prize was Hikaru no Go where it got the newcomer/creative prize. One piece was a finalist in 2000 but ultimately didn't win.


Last week's TV Ratings (yet to be confirmed on the official site but has been accurate for the past few months) have been posted on 2ch:

サザエさん放送２４００回記念スペシャル フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 18:00 - 60 10.6
名探偵コナン 日本テレビ '17/03/25(土) 18:00 - 30 6.8
ワンピース フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 9:30 - 30 6.6
ドラゴンボール超 フジテレビ '17/03/26(日) 9:00 - 30 5.5
ポケットモンスターサン＆ムーン テレビ東京 '17/03/23(木) 18:55 - 30 4.4
僕のヒーローアカデミア 日本テレビ '17/03/25(土) 17:30 - 30 3.3
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ疾風伝・最終回 テレビ東京 '17/03/23(木) 19:25 - 28 3.2
アニメおさるのジョージ ＮＨＫＥテレ '17/03/25(土) 8:35 - 25 3.1
アニメひつじのショーン ＮＨＫＥテレ '17/03/25(土) 9:00 - 20 2.9
妖怪ウォッチ テレビ東京 '17/03/24(金) 18:25 - 30 2.7

What are the highlighted things(excluding Naruto)

 

[Scruffy8642]

What are the highlighted things(excluding Naruto)

Top to bottom:
One Piece
Dragon ball Super
MHA

 

[savethecat]

Top to bottom:
One Piece
Dragon ball Super
MHA

Oooh awesome. So I guess it's safe to say MHA will at least get decent ratings this season?

 

[Nakura]

Oooh awesome. So I guess it's safe to say MHA will at least get decent ratings this season?

It's not guaranteed, but it's a popular slot. 3.3 isn't a bad start, especially for a recap episode.

 

[savethecat]

It's not guaranteed, but it's a popular slot. 3.3 isn't a bad start, especially for a recap episode.

True. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out

 

[G_I_A]

There's no way that MHA will stay on top like Dragon Ball Super and One Piece. Forget it.