Quarterfinal Laxus vs Zeref

Who wins this QF battle?

  • Laxus

    Votes: 34 39.1%
  • Zeref

    Votes: 53 60.9%

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The paralysis technique he used on Natsu, which forced him to enter Dragon Force, a mode that's superior to FDKM, and which should be superior to anything Laxus has shown to date.
Zeref just sits there and waits all day for Laxus to try and break out of the spell, and once he'd tired he follows it up with another spell, just to be on the winning team.
Then he follows it up with a Death Pillar, how does Laxus counter that move when he's stopped in his tracks?
As I said before, lightning body is a pretty hard counter to that. He'd slip free of being bound by becoming intangible and then hurl nukes at Zeref. Seems pretty effective to me.
 

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Whoever is saying laxus isnt top tier is foolish

Hes a top 5 ishgar mage.

This is about wether he has the capacity and skill to defeat the darkest wizard ever, and THAT is a big NO.

You can be top tier and not zeref tier at the same time. Dont get the 2 confused
 

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As I said before, lightning body is a pretty hard counter to that. He'd slip free of being bound by becoming intangible and then hurl nukes at Zeref. Seems pretty effective to me.
Because Laxus's lightning body has been shown to escape binding techniques before? :-_-
Laxus doesn't even use that move as an elusive technique, he mostly uses it to dart around his opponent like he did with Tempesta and Hades, how exactly do you use that to escape paralysis?
This isn't One Piece with Logias and Haki
 

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Whoever is saying laxus isnt top tier is foolish

Hes a top 5 ishgar mage.

This is about wether he has the capacity and skill to defeat the darkest wizard ever, and THAT is a big NO.

You can be top tier and not zeref tier at the same time. Dont get the 2 confused
I agree he's top 5 Ishgar!

And frankly, I think Zeref is devoutly stronger, but sadly it's not about who is stronger, it's about who's shown more strength with the restrictions considered, and based on that standard I think Laxus has done more. If Zeref had been written better then this would be a stomp for him.

But he wasn't.
 

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I'd also argue that the attack that nearly murdered Ajeel is capable of significantly damaging Zeref on top of Red lightning. It wouldn't one-shot Zeref, but there's no need to finish with a named attack when you can just spam good, if nameless, nukes. Many of Laxus's mid tier attacks would eventually overwhelm the offensively unimpressive Zeref.
Red Lightning was aspull nothing else, but this doesent mean Laxus is weak, look the panels man Mavis stated Yuri is Like Laxus.... Precht said you have Yuri Blood in your veins. what this means? Laxus learned Red lightning from his ancestor..

do you wonder why Yuri was not introduce again??? because his Power Level is 2.0 ----->Laxus

Hype=God Serena --->Laxus
Feats =Laxus--->God Serena

Broken powerscaling Acnologia can literally one-shot Base August and God Serena tier characters...

But in the other Panel Jellal was pressuring Dragon Acnologia...

Btw... Laxus is till my top favorite 5 character list:)
 

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Whoever is saying laxus isnt top tier is foolish

Hes a top 5 ishgar mage.

This is about wether he has the capacity and skill to defeat the darkest wizard ever, and THAT is a big NO.

You can be top tier and not zeref tier at the same time. Dont get the 2 confused
It goes a little something like this in my book.

- God-tier (Natsu = FH Zeref > Acno)

- Top-tier (Igneel > Dragon Queen => Elder/Legendary Dragons > August the Destruction.....)

High-tier (normal Dragons > Larcade....)


For Laxus to be top tier in the FT Universe, he ought to be capable of fighting on equal footing with the likes of Irene, Elder Dragons, August etc.
 

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Because Laxus's lightning body has been shown to escape binding techniques before? :-_-
Laxus doesn't even use that move as an elusive technique, he mostly uses it to dart around his opponent like he did with Tempesta and Hades, how exactly do you use that to escape paralysis?
This isn't One Piece with Logias and Haki
Chapter 69 page 12. Laxus dodges a punch from Natsu by turning into lightning.
 

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Nope. Directly stated by the author himself, and has been stated numerous times to be top by top tiers. So no, Zeref has actual facts of being top tier not some deluded notion of portrayal from the very beginning of the series.

Laxus isn't top tier. His feats are lackluster and shows he doesn't even have the endurance to hang with high tiers let alone top tiers.

Why Natsu keeps being brought up is because you guys think bcs Natsu can do it Laxus can do it which is plain out wrong since Natsu would rekt Laxus.

Savage Emotion Natsu > Zeref > DF Natsu > FDKM IgNatsu > IgNatsu >>>>>> FDKM Natsu > Laxus. Laxus ain't messing with top tiers as he will get smashed. Immortality only gives Zeref longevity and regeneration it does not give him durability and he has tanked way stronger attacks than Laxus has dished out.

Laxus ain that strong in the verse. Their are several people who can beat him handily.
yo this guy said FDKM natsu>laxus even natsu fans such as @natsulucy @Axiomus @Daniel9dsi and @CaptainTorch doesn't believe it but somehow u believe that :nunoamaze:nunogasm:yodawg:yodawg lets wait for the tournament to finish so we argue this blasphemy. ''laxus isnt top tier he feats are lack busting'' :pogchamp

just because some people are stronger than him doesnt mean he isnt top tier ill just leave it at that.

@Emperor Spriggan u do realize that law=/=FL
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It goes a little something like this in my book.

- God-tier (Natsu = FH Zeref > Acno)

- Top-tier (Igneel > Dragon Queen => Elder/Legendary Dragons > August the Destruction.....)

High-tier (normal Dragons > Larcade....)


For Laxus to be top tier in the FT Universe, he ought to be capable of fighting on equal footing with the likes of Irene, Elder Dragons, August etc.
so ur making up characters so that laxus wouldnt be classified as a top tier :coolstory
 

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@Emperor Spriggan u do realize that law=/=FL
What's the difference, really? Mavis just used it at a time Fairy Tail wasn't formed, the 'Fairy' at the beginning just shows the spell is exclusive to Fairy Tail.
The spell is the same back then and now, even the workings are the same. It eliminates anything the caster sees as a threat.
 

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It goes a little something like this in my book.

- God-tier (Natsu = FH Zeref > Acno)

- Top-tier (Igneel > Dragon Queen => Elder/Legendary Dragons > August the Destruction.....)

High-tier (normal Dragons > Larcade....)


For Laxus to be top tier in the FT Universe, he ought to be capable of fighting on equal footing with the likes of Irene, Elder Dragons, August etc.
I would combine some of these tiers. For instance, I would add Igneel to the top tier, as well as August, since August's ability is stupid and seemingly infinite as long as he's getting hit by caster magic. I'd also drop Larcade because this is Fairy Tail where 90% of characters have broken degrees of willpower to overcome his abilities. I'd add several Spriggans and Ishgar mages to high tier as well, including Laxus. I generally leave dragons out altogether except for Irene because they're more events than actual opponents.
 

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yo this guy said FDKM natsu>laxus even natsu fans such as @natsulucy @Axiomus @Daniel9dsi and @CaptainTorch doesn't believe it but somehow u believe that :nunoamaze:nunogasm:yodawg:yodawg lets wait for the tournament to finish so we argue this blasphemy. ''laxus isnt top tier he feats are lack busting'' :pogchamp

just because some people are stronger than him doesnt mean he isnt top tier ill just leave it at that.

@Emperor Spriggan u do realize that law=/=FL
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so ur making up characters so that laxus wouldnt be classified as a top tier :coolstory
I didn't make the characters, Hiro did...duh
 

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What's the difference, really? Mavis just used it at a time Fairy Tail wasn't formed, the 'Fairy' at the beginning just shows the spell is exclusive to Fairy Tail.
The spell is the same back then and now, even the workings are the same. It eliminates anything the caster sees as a threat.
actually ur right i thought there were different. except that mavis the improved it. but zeref was said that he thought irene enchantment magic does that mean your gonna give him feats that he hasnt shown??
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I didn't make the characters, Hiro did...duh
who are the elder/legendary dragons??? who is the dragon queen (plz dont say irene that will be the joke of the day) who do u consider normal dragons????. who said natsu can beat dragons???? who said zeref has capable feats to take down dragons
 

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I would combine some of these tiers. For instance, I would add Igneel to the top tier, as well as August, since August's ability is stupid and seemingly infinite as long as he's getting hit by caster magic. I'd also drop Larcade because this is Fairy Tail where 90% of characters have broken degrees of willpower to overcome his abilities. I'd add several Spriggans and Ishgar mages to high tier as well, including Laxus. I generally leave dragons out altogether except for Irene because they're more events than actual opponents.
You can create 6 tiers or 14 tiers to classify the FT characters (i.e tier 0 > tier 1 > tier 2, tier 3 & so on) & characters in 4th & 5th can still both be considered as mid-tier or high-tier depending on how you rank em.
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actually ur right i thought there were different. except that mavis the improved it. but zeref was said that he thought irene enchantment magic does that mean your gonna give him feats that he hasnt shown??
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who are the elder/legendary dragons??? who is the dragon queen (plz dont say irene that will be the joke of the day) who do u consider normal dragons????. who said natsu can beat dragons???? who said zeref has capable feats to take down dragons
Elder/Legendary Dragons are those that taught DS like Wendy her DS ability. Among these guys exist Igneel who is the Dragon Flame King (& he is at least Top-tier).

The Dragon Queen is Irene (why won't I say it when it's the truth & her title lol).

Examples of Normal Dragons is Atlas flame (& the like).

Anyway, this is pointless talk.
 

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You can create 6 tiers or 14 tiers to classify the FT characters (i.e tier 0 > tier 1 > tier 2, tier 3 & so on) & characters in 4th & 5th can still both be considered as mid-tier or high-tier depending on how you rank em.
You're right, the semantics aren't important. Regardless, and to stay on topic, nerfed Zeref falls considerably from top tier.
 

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yo this guy said FDKM natsu>laxus even natsu fans such as @natsulucy @Axiomus @Daniel9dsi and @CaptainTorch doesn't believe it but somehow u believe that :nunoamaze:nunogasm:yodawg:yodawg lets wait for the tournament to finish so we argue this blasphemy. ''laxus isnt top tier he feats are lack busting'' :pogchamp

just because some people are stronger than him doesnt mean he isnt top tier ill just leave it at that.

@Emperor Spriggan u do realize that law=/=FL
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so ur making up characters so that laxus wouldnt be classified as a top tier :coolstory
Better feats are better feats. Natsu's FDKM doesn't instantly exhaust and has the power output to KO mid tier S12s lol. DF wouldn't be needed at this point.
 

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You can create 6 tiers or 14 tiers to classify the FT characters (i.e tier 0 > tier 1 > tier 2, tier 3 & so on) & characters in 4th & 5th can still both be considered as mid-tier or high-tier depending on how you rank em.
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Elder/Legendary Dragons are those that taught DS like Wendy her DS ability. Among these guys exist Igneel who is the Dragon Flame King (& he is at least Top-tier).

The Dragon Queen is Irene (why won't I say it when it's the truth & her title lol).

Examples of Normal Dragons is Atlas flame (& the like).

Anyway, this is pointless talk.
by ur logic 1.future rogue should be god tier since he has dragon manipulation :cookiehand
irene>august and the parent dragons :yodawg lol since when???? lol her feats were counter by wendy and a bit of DS magic with erza (who busted her strongest attack) to take down her dragon form. ya she is very powerful might as well say that wendy is always god tier :cookiehand

atlas flames=motherglare the same dragon that HF natsu took down. but let me guess non top tier like laxus and gildartz are not on HF natsu level eiher right? :invalid
 

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actually ur right i thought there were different. except that mavis the improved it. but zeref was said that he thought irene enchantment magic does that mean your gonna give him feats that he hasnt shown??
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who are the elder/legendary dragons??? who is the dragon queen (plz dont say irene that will be the joke of the day) who do u consider normal dragons????. who said natsu can beat dragons???? who said zeref has capable feats to take down dragons
Mavis never improved Fairy Law.
 

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Better feats are better feats. Natsu's FDKM doesn't instantly exhaust and has the power output to KO mid tier S12s lol. DF wouldn't be needed at this point.
ya cause he didnt get help from lucy and the guild to beat jacob :cookiehand and couldnt oneshot ajeel with his base mode punch like laxus could have done if august didnt save him. go reread laxus vs wahl i think u miss important details of why laxus struggled if u want i can give the chapter number so u can start reading :gar
 

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by ur logic 1.future rogue should be god tier since he has dragon manipulation :cookiehand
irene>august and the parent dragons :yodawg lol since when???? lol her feats were counter by wendy and a bit of DS magic with erza (who busted her strongest attack) to take down her dragon form. ya she is very powerful might as well say that wendy is always god tier :cookiehand

atlas flames=motherglare the same dragon that HF natsu took down. but let me guess non top tier like laxus and gildartz are not on HF natsu level eiher right? :invalid
Only parent Dragon that was above the pack was Igneel. Irene has solid feats that put her above the parent Dragons, and she didn't get beaten by Wendy so your point is dumb. Any parent Dragon can be hurt by Wendy bcs of her DS magic that doesn't mean they can be beat by her. There's a sheer difference between hurt and defeat.
 

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Mavis never improved Fairy Law.
if she didnt then makarov and laxus would have been curse like her genius
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Only parent Dragon that was above the pack was Igneel. Irene has solid feats that put her above the parent Dragons, and she didn't get beaten by Wendy so your point is dumb. Any parent Dragon can be hurt by Wendy bcs of her DS magic that doesn't mean they can be beat by her. There's a sheer difference between hurt and defeat.
go reread my post open ur eyes where did i say that irene was defeated??? parent dragons wouldnt have trouble no diff wendy and erza as much as irene did lol
 
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