You need to reread the post. Im sure its still up, I did not call anyone a brainless monkey. And if i did, the admins on here are great about quashing rude messages, giving warning, and the like. I was joking about people being high to begin with and it was sarcastic at best.
And in my final post on that thread i did apologize for my rudeness. I acknowledged that the forum was getting the best of me and politely left that section.
Meh, i didn't get the sarcasm in the post, and i also missed your apologies apparently. I'll admit that i'm not following the tournament thread that much anymore, especially considering some debates took dozens of pages that i was too lazy to read.
So i apologize for misunderstanding you :/
But yeah... I wish debates were less heated.
lol zeref won of course half of the voters didnt read the rules buts all good. maybe as well give it to natsu at this point POF oneshots every1 with no name chapter 1 casual laughable hahaha sprinkle with a basic punch
If Natsu and Gildarts tied, there's no way Natsu can beat August, who's clearly way above Gildarts. AT least biased voting towards Natsu (which happened whether you want to believe it or not) is actually legit if it comes to Natsu vs. Zeref as Zeref hasn't shown anything spectacular against Natsu without FH.
I knew Gildarts could pull through. I find it less likely that Natsu will win again this year. I'm all for Team SomeoneElseOtherThanNatsu so team August it is
I knew Gildarts could pull through. I find it less likely that Natsu will win again this year. I'm all for Team SomeoneElseOtherThanNatsu so team August it is
Surely you said your votes were well constructed, non biased arguments?
I wouldn't say that Irene's MP is comparable to August... as for Age Seal, the only person we know who has countered it was END.
I'm skeptical that Irene's MP is on the same level as END's MP. There has been no proof of how their MPs compare and their performances have been drastically different.
END did quite well for being at a Slayer Disadvantage, especially when he went against DeS Gray. Irene was shocked at Base Wendy + Erza's skills. I'd argue that END is far above Irene.
Eileen is stronger than END, there is no question. END couldnt break Erza's bare hands, Eileen shattered Benisakura along with all of Erza's bones. END's offence and speed are only on par with DeS Gray's, END is at best incredibly durable, all his other stats are mediocre.
Wendy+Erza's combined attack>>DeS Gray's Ice Cage(the only DeS spell he landed). And DS magic didnt defeat Eileen, no one defeated Eileen.
Anyway, yes there is proof that Eileen is immune to Age Seal, and its enchanted Neinhart resisting Command T. Both Age Seal and Command T were stated to be unable to work on END because of power, which means the criteria for bypassing them is the same. The fact that Eileen can enchant Neinhart to resist one confirms that she who is far greater than enchanted Neinhart, can resist the other.
Doesnt make a difference if switching bodies helped put down Wendy, because without enchanted Erza, Wendy wouldve had no chance anyway.
Eileen underestimated Wendy, sure, but so did the entire fanbase and we have an objective view of the battle. And sure, switching bodies was stupid, but Eileen wasnt fighting to win, having a human body was more important to Eileen than winning the fight.
Sure, it doesnt take that long to go invisible, but it also doesnt take that long to shoot off a roar.
Erza didnt tank Deus Sema, she destroyed it. Like i said before, the fact that Erza was so desperate to prevent Deus Sema from touching the ground confirms that the Meteor in the air isnt close to as dangerous as the Meteor hitting the ground.
I doubt Irene is stronger than END. Given raw power, END outclasses Irene by more than a mile. He was at least on par with DeS Gray while at a slayer disadvantage. Irene was a fool in front of Base Wendy + Erza.
Like I said, Irene only shattered Erza's bones because she had the body of a dragon.
It has to do with the weight and toughness of a dragon's body, not her MP or Power. The amount of energy she put in her "swing" was minimal.
Without the dragon's body, Irene would have failed just like she did when she fought them in her human form, canonically.
In other words, she didn't break any bones because she had a lot of magical power. She broke bones just like how a Sumo Wrestler would lazily lay flat on top of a skinny woman.
I beg to differ.
Without switching bodies, Wendy would never have been taken down. She can counter every single one of Irene's attacks. Irene's enchantments are practically useless against Wendy because Wendy is a better enchanter.
Like I said before, Irene switching bodies with Wendy helped her defeat Wendy because she was able to inflict self-damage... there's nothing Wendy can do about that.
After that, Irene cowardly switched back so that Wendy could have her trashed body back.
If they never switched, Irene has no way of nullifying Wendy's Sky Dragon Slaying Magic.
And if she activated DF and used a secret art spell, she would severely injure Irene. Especially since Human Irene's durability is extremely poor.
I would argue that Jacob could clap his hands faster than a roar, if he is fighting against Irene that is.
But I don't see her producing a roar faster than him turning invisible anyways.
Jacob is the best assassin alive, after all... without PiS of course.
I don't see much of a difference between tanking/destroying... you still have to touch the meteor.
But alright, I'll use the word 'destroyed' for simplicity sakes.
If Erza could destroy Deus Sema, how is it possible that Natsu, Laxus, God Serena, or Gajeel can't?
All of those dragon slayers have durability, strength, speed, and power above Erza's.
I don't see Deus Sema touching the ground at all... any healthy DS can destroy a falling meteor if a 95% broken boned person could.
I knew Gildarts could pull through. I find it less likely that Natsu will win again this year. I'm all for Team SomeoneElseOtherThanNatsu so team August it is
Surely you said your votes were well constructed, non biased arguments?
Aye, good to see that even tho the Laxus squad took an L to Zeref and his squd we're still going strong. Anyway, I would like to say Zeref wins cuz he knocked out my boy Laxus....
Team August for me, he easily stomps everyone other than Eileen and Gildarts. Curious to see who gets a three way battle, hopefully August is a part of it.
I wouldn't say that Irene's MP is comparable to August... as for Age Seal, the only person we know who has countered it was END.
I'm skeptical that Irene's MP is on the same level as END's MP. There has been no proof of how their MPs compare and their performances have been drastically different.
END did quite well for being at a Slayer Disadvantage, especially when he went against DeS Gray. Irene was shocked at Base Wendy + Erza's skills. I'd argue that END is far above Irene.
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I doubt Irene is stronger than END. Given raw power, END outclasses Irene by more than a mile. He was at least on par with DeS Gray while at a slayer disadvantage. Irene was a fool in front of Base Wendy + Erza.
Like I said, Irene only shattered Erza's bones because she had the body of a dragon.
It has to do with the weight and toughness of a dragon's body, not her MP or Power. The amount of energy she put in her "swing" was minimal.
Without the dragon's body, Irene would have failed just like she did when she fought them in her human form, canonically.
In other words, she didn't break any bones because she had a lot of magical power. She broke bones just like how a Sumo Wrestler would lazily lay flat on top of a skinny woman.
I beg to differ.
Without switching bodies, Wendy would never have been taken down. She can counter every single one of Irene's attacks. Irene's enchantments are practically useless against Wendy because Wendy is a better enchanter.
Like I said before, Irene switching bodies with Wendy helped her defeat Wendy because she was able to inflict self-damage... there's nothing Wendy can do about that.
After that, Irene cowardly switched back so that Wendy could have her trashed body back.
If they never switched, Irene has no way of nullifying Wendy's Sky Dragon Slaying Magic.
And if she activated DF and used a secret art spell, she would severely injure Irene. Especially since Human Irene's durability is extremely poor.
I would argue that Jacob could clap his hands faster than a roar, if he is fighting against Irene that is.
But I don't see her producing a roar faster than him turning invisible anyways.
Jacob is the best assassin alive, after all... without PiS of course.
I don't see much of a difference between tanking/destroying... you still have to touch the meteor.
But alright, I'll use the word 'destroyed' for simplicity sakes.
If Erza could destroy Deus Sema, how is it possible that Natsu, Laxus, God Serena, or Gajeel can't?
All of those dragon slayers have durability, strength, speed, and power above Erza's.
I don't see Deus Sema touching the ground at all... any healthy DS can destroy a falling meteor if a 95% broken boned person could.
Yep, not arguing this anymore. Eileen made it through so im satisfied(not that i ever doubted she would).
All i'll say is that Eileen>>>END as shown by the difference in their performance against Erza, and Dimaria<<<END since she got her ass kicked by him, which means Dimaria<<<<<<Eileen.
I wouldn't say that Irene's MP is comparable to August... as for Age Seal, the only person we know who has countered it was END.
I'm skeptical that Irene's MP is on the same level as END's MP. There has been no proof of how their MPs compare and their performances have been drastically different.
END did quite well for being at a Slayer Disadvantage, especially when he went against DeS Gray. Irene was shocked at Base Wendy + Erza's skills. I'd argue that END is far above Irene.
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I doubt Irene is stronger than END. Given raw power, END outclasses Irene by more than a mile. He was at least on par with DeS Gray while at a slayer disadvantage. Irene was a fool in front of Base Wendy + Erza.
Like I said, Irene only shattered Erza's bones because she had the body of a dragon.
It has to do with the weight and toughness of a dragon's body, not her MP or Power. The amount of energy she put in her "swing" was minimal.
Without the dragon's body, Irene would have failed just like she did when she fought them in her human form, canonically.
In other words, she didn't break any bones because she had a lot of magical power. She broke bones just like how a Sumo Wrestler would lazily lay flat on top of a skinny woman.
I beg to differ.
Without switching bodies, Wendy would never have been taken down. She can counter every single one of Irene's attacks. Irene's enchantments are practically useless against Wendy because Wendy is a better enchanter.
Like I said before, Irene switching bodies with Wendy helped her defeat Wendy because she was able to inflict self-damage... there's nothing Wendy can do about that.
After that, Irene cowardly switched back so that Wendy could have her trashed body back.
If they never switched, Irene has no way of nullifying Wendy's Sky Dragon Slaying Magic.
And if she activated DF and used a secret art spell, she would severely injure Irene. Especially since Human Irene's durability is extremely poor.
I would argue that Jacob could clap his hands faster than a roar, if he is fighting against Irene that is.
But I don't see her producing a roar faster than him turning invisible anyways.
Jacob is the best assassin alive, after all... without PiS of course.
I don't see much of a difference between tanking/destroying... you still have to touch the meteor.
But alright, I'll use the word 'destroyed' for simplicity sakes.
If Erza could destroy Deus Sema, how is it possible that Natsu, Laxus, God Serena, or Gajeel can't?
All of those dragon slayers have durability, strength, speed, and power above Erza's.
I don't see Deus Sema touching the ground at all... any healthy DS can destroy a falling meteor if a 95% broken boned person could.
buts all good. maybe as well give it to natsu at this point POF oneshots every1 with no name chapter 1 casual laughable hahaha sprinkle with a basic punch
