That is her talking about Master Enchantment, she can only do it when in Dragon Form because Master Enchant is needed.
EDIT : Add to that, Deus Sema is made of enchantment, not normal heavenly body magic. Jellal's Sema is different than that as its not enchantment., what Irene did was enchant a meteor, not create it.
Ok so how exactly is August going to counter Irene's master enchant if that's the case? If her power is such that she enchants actual meteors which is > the regular sema he most likely copied from Jellal, do you think him using regular meteor will be able to do much damage if anything? Like the panels you posted mention, she transcends everything in that form.
Ok so how exactly is August going to counter Irene's master enchant if that's the case? If her power is such that she enchants actual meteors which is > the regular sema he most likely copied from Jellal, do you think him using regular meteor will be able to do much damage if anything? Like the panels you posted mention, she transcends everything in that form.
Well Irene's Breath looked exactly like Natsu's but anyway there is no hard evidence.
But when Hyberion used Vampire Magic August complimented it and said,"Vampire Magic.Interesting"... or something along this line.If he can just copy just by standing in front of a mage then he would have said to Hyberion as soon as he met him that,"You seem to possess an interesting variety of magic" not after actually seeing him casting.Infact August was surprised or amazed on seeing Hyberion using this magic.This proves he needs to see it before casting.
And why can't there be a case where August copied Melt from some other Mage.And August is an intelligent man.Him attacking a group consisting of a Fire Dragon Slayer with Fire DS Magic doesn't fit him.
Sure, and logically he would have said the same to Gildarts when he actually witnessed Gildarts magic, but he didnt. So no, it doesnt prove he needs to see something before casting, because he saw Gildart's magic, and still only commented several attacks later. Like i said before, August probably just hadnt chosen to copy their magic at that point. We know it can be turned off and on(Brandish healing him, Cobra hearing his thoughts etc.)
It cant be a case because every other panel in Gildart's explanation was of August copying something from the mage in front of him, if it was a spell from some other random mage there would be no point in including it. Its connection to Natsu is the only thing that distinguishes it from other random spells like Sleep and its why it was included.
Yeah, and Wahl attacking a Lightning Dragon Slayer with Lightning Magic doesnt fit him either. Beside's, I doubt one Fire DS being among the group factored into his decision, as long as Mest died he'd probably be satisfied.
Sure, and logically he would have said the same to Gildarts when he actually witnessed Gildarts magic, but he didnt. So no, it doesnt prove he needs to see something before casting, because he saw Gildart's magic, and still only commented several attacks later. Like i said before, August probably just hadnt chosen to copy their magic at that point. We know it can be turned off and on(Brandish healing him, Cobra hearing his thoughts etc.)
It cant be a case because every other panel in Gildart's explanation was of August copying something from the mage in front of him, if it was a spell from some other random mage there would be no point in including it. Its connection to Natsu is the only thing that distinguishes it from other random spells like Sleep and its why it was included.
Yeah, and Wahl attacking a Lightning Dragon Slayer with Lightning Magic doesnt fit him either. Beside's, I doubt one Fire DS being among the group factored into his decision, as long as Mest died he'd probably be satisfied.
But anyway it seems we will not agree but i always love debating with you.
Just one last words.If you skip Gildarts part,and focus completely on Hyberion part then you will see August didn't know him using Vampire Magic.So this proves that he can't copy a magic just by meeting a mage.
How do you know that? Deus Sema is the advanced form of a regular sema, so are you saying she skips right past learning the actual magic to just doing a random OP version?
If you ask me, her version of sema works completely different. If you focus on Jellal's Sema, he actually produces a cyclone of sorts and creates a meteor in the center of it, then causes it to fall. In other words Jellal's magic allows him to create a meteor and replicate the falling of a meteor from space, but in reality it only falls from the sky.
Meanwhile Irene has never been shown to use Heavenly body magic, and her spell was simply called Dues Sema, as opposed to Jellal's version which made it clear that it was heavenly body magic "True Heavenly Body Magic: Sema". Also, Irene doesn't produce a meteor herself, she enchants an already existing one from space.
So in conclusion, Irene's spell has nothing to do with heavenly body magic which Jellal manipulates.
But anyway it seems we will not agree but i always love debating with you.
Just one last words.If you skip Gildarts part,and focus completely on Hyberion part then you will see August didn't know him using Vampire Magic.So this proves that he can't copy a magic just by meeting a mage.
To simplify what i said before, didnt =/= cant. He didnt copy Hyberion's magic at that point, but that doesnt mean he couldnt have. August magic isnt always on, as shown by him seeing Crash, but not commenting on it til later(and by Brandish being able to heal him).
Melt's inclusion in Gildart's explanation is what really solidifies it for me. And i cant really think of any other way to interpret August saying that God Serena is "with him" as his tattoo fizzles.
But yes, we probably wont agree, it was a good debate as always.
One thing I feel that needs to be considered in this fight, is Irene's method of battle. She uses enchantments to fight,but how does she cast these enchantments? Through her staff. Which would qualify as a holder item, right? From her introduction:
Among other uses of her enchantments in battle (Along with the Berserker enchantment I had posted earlier). So if we assume that her staff is in itself a Caster weapon, August can't copy it. Negate it, yes, but he shouldn't be capable of reproducing the same spells as Irene.
Food for thought, yes?
And Cana blitzed August and littered him up with those dang cards lol. Getting tagged by fodder Cana is way more of a poor showing than getting blitzed by a speedster type character lol. Wendy so fast she actually can disappear like a DBZ character and she has created trails of speed. Also Irene caught Acno by surprise while August got blitzed and shatted his pants in front of Acno.
Laxus thunder nuke was city-mountain level. Irene's Deus Sema was Island+ -Country level. Those two spells arent even in the same ballpark.
August beat CS so what? A handful of S12s can do that too lmao. Irene would just hand swipe and kill them or turn them into her man slaves. Irene wiped out the northern fleet and wiping out Sabertooth is a lot higher feat than wiping out CS who have literally only one non-fodder mage in their guild.
One thing I feel that needs to be considered in this fight, is Irene's method of battle. She uses enchantments to fight,but how does she cast these enchantments? Through her staff. Which would qualify as a holder item, right? From her introduction:
Among other uses of her enchantments in battle (Along with the Berserker enchantment I had posted earlier). So if we assume that her staff is in itself a Caster weapon, August can't copy it. Negate it, yes, but he shouldn't be capable of reproducing the same spells as Irene.
Food for thought, yes?
This argument is sound, but I don't believe it's a valid reason as to why Irene wins. However it is indeed evidence that proves August can't copy everything Irene dishes out.
I myself am stuck in the middle here. I was going into this thinking August but after reading some arguments I might change my mind.
and engage in CQC where August gets stomped to oblivion.
no need to use magic.
its up to you guys to decide whetever or not can August use DS magic or not or if you rate his DS attack above Erza' which is, look more carefully, piercing attack.
