Final August vs Irene

[**Silver**]

plus, Irene can just go dragon form.

and engage in CQC where August gets stomped to oblivion.

no need to use magic.

its up to you guys to decide whetever or not can August use DS magic or not or if you rate his DS attack above Erza' which is, look more carefully, piercing attack.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 11, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 11, 2017 ---

nice joke

I just told you the truth.

Gildarts has been stated to be the strongest character Faitytail guild has to offer and August was overpowering Gildarts.. so i have to guess Erza is stronger than Gildarts???

but sure you can even ignore this and say Erza and Wendy is stronger than Gildarts

 

[EmptySoul]

lol your personal Hate against August is nice and all but still August has better feats than Irene...

Indeed
Like poking Gildarts with his stick and using a suicide attack that didnt do shit but then still die
Such feats much wow

 

[Jko]

One thing I feel that needs to be considered in this fight, is Irene's method of battle. She uses enchantments to fight,but how does she cast these enchantments? Through her staff. Which would qualify as a holder item, right? From her introduction:

Spoiler: Irene enchants the weather in the North

Spoiler: Preparing for Universe One

Spoiler: Fighting Acnologia

Spoiler: Casting Universe One

Among other uses of her enchantments in battle (Along with the Berserker enchantment I had posted earlier). So if we assume that her staff is in itself a Caster weapon, August can't copy it. Negate it, yes, but he shouldn't be capable of reproducing the same spells as Irene.
Food for thought, yes?

He needs to copy the magic to nullify it. True point though. Gild used his mechanical arm to use his Crash magic and that stopped August from nullifying it. Irene can do the same thing, but her staff won't break because she has better control of her magic. I don't think he can counter her DS magic or enchantments as they are different then regular caster magic but I think this is solidly way to say he can't for the people who think he can copy all caster magic.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Gildarts has been stated to be the strongest character Faitytail guild has to offer and August was overpowering Gildarts.. so i have to guess Erza is stronger than Gildarts???

Gildarts is obviously stronger lol.

difference is August was countering Gildarts hard.

basically, Laxus vs Wall 2.0.

plus, I doubt he is the strongest anymore to begin with.

 

[EmptySoul]

Indeed
Like poking Gildarts with his stick and using a suicide attack that didnt do shit but then still die
Such feats much wow

Are u kidding?
We all know Natsu is the strongest charc in FT
Gildarts would never be able to defeat FH Zeref

 

[**Silver**]

Are u kidding?
We all know Natsu is the strongest charc in FT
Gildarts would never be able to defeat FH Zeref

yeah August beat Natsu in the tournament but cant Defeat Irene??? so how this makes any sense???

cant wait for someone to imply that Irene is stronger than Igneel...

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

One thing I feel that needs to be considered in this fight, is Irene's method of battle. She uses enchantments to fight,but how does she cast these enchantments? Through her staff. Which would qualify as a holder item, right? From her introduction:

Spoiler: Irene enchants the weather in the North

Spoiler: Preparing for Universe One

Spoiler: Fighting Acnologia

Spoiler: Casting Universe One

Among other uses of her enchantments in battle (Along with the Berserker enchantment I had posted earlier). So if we assume that her staff is in itself a Caster weapon, August can't copy it. Negate it, yes, but he shouldn't be capable of reproducing the same spells as Irene.
Food for thought, yes?

One thing with this is that she has used Enchantment without her staff before, and that each time she does it the magic doesn't go through the staff and it doesn't come from the staff itself, look at Irene preparing for U1, you can see the magical aura around her. When she was attacking Acno, the magic is coming from her hand.
Enchantment was also used before by others , like Zeref and Wendy, so Enchantment is caster magic.

 

[Jko]

Spoiler

So what is the truth?

Maybe read a little ahead...

POF Erza w/enchanted stats and a DS sword + Wendy a Dragon Slayer who has achieved DF couldn't take her down. She had too catch sentimental feelings and suicide because they weren't close to taking her down yet a mage with zero DS magic is supposed to take her down?

Tell me when August can stand over the Queen of fudging plot force then we can talk. POF Erza has won every battle but this one that says how powerful dragons as even POF Erza can't even come close to beating one even with a DS sword.

 

[EmptySoul]

yeah August beat Natsu in the tournament but cant Defeat Irene??? so how this makes any sense???

Natsu > August
Everyone here hates Natsu which is why he lost,if we actually considered his feats youd see that hes stronger and has better feats e.g Burning time,Savage flames

Buuuttttt nobody wanted Natsu in the finals,August is actually lucky everyone hates Natsu so much,his old ass wouldve been curbstomped into oblivion

 

[Orgastthemage]

@Jean Grey August's two biggest fears.

1.

2.

He dodge dem cards like those things could destroy countries or God Ankhseram himself threw those dang things

At least he dodged them. Wendy opened up Irene' s stomach with her scratching.

 

[Static]

Can't believe people are voting for Irene Belshitrion. Totally not baiting @Belserion

Then again, both are trash.

EDIT : Also to all those saying August needed to dodge Cana's cards...seriously ? Dude tanked Gildart's strongest move and only had blood trickling down his beard and people are saying he can't take on Cana's attack .

 

[Hermit]

This argument is sound, but I don't believe it's a valid reason as to why Irene wins. However it is indeed evidence that proves August can't copy everything Irene dishes out.

I myself am stuck in the middle here. I was going into this thinking August but after reading some arguments I might change my mind.

Oh, it wasn't an argument for why she wins, it was more of a point to consider about the whole 'August can copy her enchantments' point, somehow that just doesn't resonate home with me. I don't think August can exactly copy her spells, but I can see her dodging them like he did to Cana's cards or just using Meteor.
Imo a fight between August and human Irene would end with August as the winner in a very, very extreme high diff fight. Her Dragon form is the game changer in this fight. I take it to be what gives her the edge over August. A magic battle between this too is going to end a stalemate.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Natsu > August
Everyone here hates Natsu which is why he lost,if we actually considered his feats youd see that hes stronger and has better feats e.g Burning time,Savage flames

Buuuttttt nobody wanted Natsu in the finals,August is actually lucky everyone hates Natsu so much,his old ass wouldve been curbstomped into oblivion

What...how natsu is stronger than august ?? August litteraly beats him..natsu's only feats is beating fh zeref by the nakama power..

 

[NeoChrome]

So what? She obviously said she didn't want to disgrace August too so she definitely thinks she's above him. And she called herself the strongest woman in Alvarez which is true as Zeref is the definitively the strongest person in Alvarez.

Her physicals can be judged to be above average as even the 7 Dragons a year ago couldn't break the bones of mages body in one blow let alone post skip Erza who's a S12 tier.

Cana and Gild definetely aren't greater opponents. Cana is useless, and Gild ain't greater than DF Wendy+Enchanted Erza. Not only that but Wendy had Irene's weakness and had counter to Irene's spells. So Irene beat harder opponents who had an advantage on her.

Erza couldn't beat Ajeel alone and was completely decimated by Neinhart,albeit she wasn't at 100% he still casually dealt with her. Saying "DF Wendy+enchanted Erza" is redundant and unreasonably attempting to over exaggerate the threat Irene was facing. Erza being enchanted was the aid Wendy was providing, and Wendy was only in DF during a short fraction of the fight. The fact Wendy's magic was able to damage dragon Irene is heavily degrading no matter how you crunch it. Laxus' DS attacks 1 year ago didnt inflict any damage on any dragon, even if you assume that Wendy is somehow multiple times stronger than GMG Laxus(which is extremely far fetched, especially considering she couldn't get past Bluenote's gravity field), she was still both injured and heavily fatigued, and also, she wasn't using DF when she enchanted Erza.

 

[Static]

Maybe read a little ahead...

Spoiler

Yeah, maybe read a little ahead...

 

[Jko]

At least he dodged them. Wendy opened up Irene' s stomach with her scratching.

He didn't dodge all of them

And he was hurt so...

 

[Ebony Maw]

I'm not really sure who to vote for right now, both sides are making some good points. I'll remain undecided for now.

One thing I feel that needs to be considered in this fight, is Irene's method of battle. She uses enchantments to fight,but how does she cast these enchantments? Through her staff. Which would qualify as a holder item, right? From her introduction:

Spoiler: Irene enchants the weather in the North

Spoiler: Preparing for Universe One

Spoiler: Fighting Acnologia

Spoiler: Casting Universe One

Among other uses of her enchantments in battle (Along with the Berserker enchantment I had posted earlier). So if we assume that her staff is in itself a Caster weapon, August can't copy it. Negate it, yes, but he shouldn't be capable of reproducing the same spells as Irene.
Food for thought, yes?

As @MonkeyD-Dragon mentioned, she's also been shown to use her hands to cast enchantment blasts, and she does this a fair amount:

Spoiler

She didn't need the staff for Deus Zero, not to mention possessing Wendy. So really, if she even does this once against August, he should be able to replicate her magic. That said, you could argue about the probability of her launching these kinds of attacks without channeling it through her staff.

 

[Jko]

Spoiler

Yeah, maybe read a little ahead...

One page later bruh...

This is all while she having an inner turmoil in herself because she doesn't want to actually kill her daughter.

 

[Static]

One page later bruh...

This is all while she having an inner turmoil in herself because she doesn't want to actually kill her daughter.

Got me there, but you can't deny Erza headbutting Irene and causing her to spit so much blood...is not really a good durability feat.

 

[Jko]

Erza couldn't beat Ajeel alone and was completely decimated by Neinhart,albeit she wasn't at 100% he still casually dealt with her. Saying "DF Wendy+enchanted Erza" is redundant and unreasonably attempting to over exaggerate the threat Irene was facing. Erza being enchanted was the aid Wendy was providing, and Wendy was only in DF during a short fraction of the fight. The fact Wendy's magic was able to damage dragon Irene is heavily degrading no matter how you crunch it. Laxus' DS attacks 1 year ago didnt inflict any damage on any dragon, even if you assume that Wendy is somehow multiple times stronger than GMG Laxus(which is extremely far fetched, especially considering she couldn't get past Bluenote's gravity field), she was still both injured and heavily fatigued, and also, she wasn't using DF when she enchanted Erza.

Erza couldn't beat Ajeel bcs of his evasiveness and his hard counter to his armor and guess what she did end up beating him. Also she had multiple openings to kill him. She couldve slashed his neck rather than his chest if she wanted him dead. She was also restricted half the fight by Marin's magic, which led to Ajeel dehydrating her.

Current Wendy is stronger than Pre-TS Laxus. A half dead Wendy oneshotted a 9D.

She got pinned w/o DF. In DF she would've curbed. And Wendy got an amp in power throughout the war.