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Hahahahaha! Sting stronger than Erza? You guys are hilarious!
Only due to being enchanted with DSM. Nobody could do that unless they have that requirement. Not to mention Irene just like stood there without defending herself when it was too late to do so thanks to Wendy enchanting her the last minutethat doesent matter Erza was able to damage Dragon Irene. no one else expect(Natsu) in this list has anything near that level off power..
Natsu--->Erza----->Others basically this
WSDM Sting definitely beats Erza. The ability to avoid attacks and boost maneuverability by turning into shadow + the ability to one shot characters by using rough silk to pierce their heart is a pretty hax combination that Erza can't deal with without any friendship B.S.Hahahahaha! Sting stronger than Erza? You guys are hilarious!
The thing's Sting is not THAT good using the shadows as Rogue, and we already saw that Rogue needs to get out to attack (against Gajeel). Also, i said it many times, WSD is no better than Sting+Rogue combo, so if Base Natsu hndled both of them, Erza would bang Sting's ass low diff.WSDM Sting definitely beats Erza. The ability to avoid attacks and boost maneuverability by turning into shadow + the ability to one shot characters by using rough silk to pierce their heart is a pretty hax combination that Erza can't deal with without any friendship B.S.
So Jellal was "pressuring" Acnologia?Ishgar Top Mages
1.Natsu(obviously Defeated Zeref)
2.Erza/Wendy(Defeated Irene with Teamwork)
3.jellal(Pressured Acnologia)
4.Gildarts(Lose against August)
5.Wdsm/Sting (Defeated Larcade with Power-up)
6.Gray/Devil Marks(Defeated Invel and was fighting against End/Natsu)
7.Laxus( Sick Laxus Defeated Wahl and Precht)
8.Gajeel(Defeated Bradman with Power-up)
9.Elfman/Lisanna/Kagura/Mirajane/
10.God Serena (Former strongest mage in all ishgar/ this is really sad i cant rate God Serena any higher because his character is lacking good feats )
only feats is considered in this list not Hype...
and no this is not trolling Wendy and Erza indeed defeated Irene live with that...

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Thanks man really this was heartbreaking momentmy boy @**Salty** broke
FT is gonna send many fans crazy.
@Stormsfury was the first, then me and now Salty.
when you see people saying base Natsu one shots Laxus, then it tells you volumes how good FT actually is.
haha you received followingyou can accept the facts or not.. yes Erza defeated Irene while being enchanted but that doesent chance the fact that Erza powerlvel is strong enough to even defeat Dragons..Only due to being enchanted with DSM. Nobody could do that unless they have that requirement. Not to mention Irene just like stood there without defending herself when it was too late to do so thanks to Wendy enchanting her the last minute
yeah Jellal pressured Acnologia read the panels again manSo Jellal was "pressuring" Acnologia?
Sting is above Laxus?
Gildarts below Jellal even after the fight against August?
God serena is 10 because he's featless but kagura has feats?![]()
You can't call that "pressuring Acnologia". He landed two hits with meteor and annoyed Acno a little bit. But that wasn't anything impressive.yeah Jellal pressured Acnologia read the panels again man
yes Sting is above Laxus Larcade---->Wahl accept it or not
Larcade is stronger than God Serena this means Kagura----->God Serena/ or atleast Mirajane and Elfman and lisanna is stronger than Serena
yes Pressuring Acnologia is more impressive than Gildarts losing to August...

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the august who fought august was nerfed as hell because of the plot, he suffered from both CIS and PIS. he literally didn't use a single spell against him. even cana was more impressive than CS combined as she landed a hit. he was using his stick even tho he's capable of more than that. after he countered gildarts the first time he should've cubed him back, but for same reasonThey both fought August. Gildarts was more impressive.
he didn't. that would make the fight one-sided curbstomp. and I don't have to remind you about the whole "why his majesty's child not loved?" . the only damage he could ever land was after figuring out that caster type magic doesn't work against. and when he landed the hit. august was remembering his past as a child
. he could've easily blocked it or dodge it ( he still has midnight's reflector after all or using racer's slow time magic + cobra's hearing ability combo).
Gildarts could probably nullify spells so August just decided to use physical attacks. "Because of the plot" well that defines everything that happens in this mangathe august who fought august was nerfed as hell because of the plot, he suffered from both CIS and PIS. he literally didn't use a single spell against him. even cana was more impressive than CS combined as she landed a hit. he was using his stick even tho he's capable of more than that. after he countered gildarts the first time he should've cubed him back, but for same reasonhe didn't. that would make the fight one-sided curbstomp. and I don't have to remind you about the whole "why his majesty's child not loved?" . the only damage he could ever land was after figuring out that caster type magic doesn't work against. and when he landed the hit. august was remembering his past as a child
. he could've easily blocked it or dodge it ( he still has midnight's reflector after all or using racer's slow time magic + cobra's hearing ability combo).
that's like saying both gildarts and jellal fought acnologia. jellal was more impressive, gildarts got one-shotted.
so it doesn't really matter. Both Jellal and Gildarts fought August, Gildarts did better.
. Jellal was trying to "buys some time by evading Acno's attacks" and had to be saved by Christina.
Truth is Gildarts didn't fight Acnologia as such.He himself admitted that he was one shotted amd it was over in a flash.Gildarts could probably nullify spells so August just decided to use physical attacks. "Because of the plot" well that defines everything that happens in this mangaso it doesn't really matter. Both Jellal and Gildarts fought August, Gildarts did better.
Gildarts fought a serious Acno (as mentioned by him) and made it out alive on his own pre-time skip. Jellal was trying to "buys some time by evading Acno's attacks" and had to be saved by Christina.
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He said it was over in a moment so it might've been a short fight. He made it out alive which means he wasn't really one shotted but he took too much damage and figured out that he couldn't win so he decided to escape.Truth is Gildarts didn't fight Acnologia as such.He himself admitted that he was one shotted amd it was over in a flash.
Gildarts didnt decide anything. Acnologia gutted him, tore off his arm and leg, and then left him for dead. Beside's, Jellal is still alive, but i think its safe to say that he was oneshotted too.He said it was over in a moment so it might've been a short fight. He made it out alive which means he wasn't really one shotted but he took too much damage and figured out that he couldn't win so he decided to escape.
august can nullify the magic overall, so gildarts crush won't work anyway. the fight btw CS & august was off-panel so we can't decide who's better.Gildarts could probably nullify spells so August just decided to use physical attacks. "Because of the plot" well that defines everything that happens in this mangaso it doesn't really matter. Both Jellal and Gildarts fought August, Gildarts did better.
Gildarts fought a serious Acno (as mentioned by him) and made it out alive on his own pre-time skip. Jellal was trying to "buys some time by evading Acno's attacks" and had to be saved by Christina.
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actually, no one can espace from acno with that much damage. one leg can't get you anywhere. I think gildarts play it dead as acnologia doesn't really care about human (like on jacob & august case)He said it was over in a moment so it might've been a short fight. He made it out alive which means he wasn't really one shotted but he took too much damage and figured out that he couldn't win so he decided to escape.
Of course he would've lasted longer. Gildarts was fighting Acnologia, Jellal was distracting Acnologia, there's a big difference. lol "he's the worst enemy for any magic user" so if that applies against the overpowered August, what can Jellal do?august can nullify the magic overall, so gildarts crush won't work anyway. the fight btw CS & august was off-panel so we can't decide who's better.
"pre-time skip". gildarts wasn't the only one who got better. the version jellal fought is more powerful than the one back in tenrou.
gildarts didn't even last one moment, if jellal didn't decide to push acno to the timelapse he'll gain more time.
anyway, we can't compare two characters based on their perfomance against a certain individual. gildarts's crush is very haxxed and he's basically another august without copying (or byro from KoSS arc). and he's the worst enemy for any magic user. jellal on the other hand still has big spells like abyss break,self destruction seal, altair, Sema and flame of rebuke (great energy capable of making any ds acheive df). gildarts is better for me because he's got experience on his side, but they are on the same tier overall, same with laxus.
. Well, Erza destroyed a better version of sema with her bones broken, so.....It was mentioned that Acno was serious against Gildarts. Acno does care about strong humans like Irene (he didn't know she was a dragon when she challenged him). He left August and Jacob alone because they didn't challenge him and therefore he didn't consider them a threat.actually, no one can espace from acno with that much damage. one leg can't get you anywhere. I think gildarts play it dead as acnologia doesn't really care about human (like on jacob & august case)
gildarts didn't fight acno. he got one-shotted in a mere sec ala serena style. it isn't a fight if it last a moment. when jellal decided to push acno to the timelapse he was no longer looking for buying just time. he was fighting him head on. and jellal lasted more than gildartsOf course he would've lasted longer. Gildarts was fighting Acnologia, Jellal was distracting Acnologia, there's a big difference. lol "he's the worst enemy for any magic user" so if that applies against the overpowered August, what can Jellal do?. Well, Erza destroyed a better version of sema with her bones broken, so.....
It was mentioned that Acno was serious against Gildarts. Acno does care about strong humans like Irene (he didn't know she was a dragon when she challenged him). He left August and Jacob alone because they didn't challenge him and therefore he didn't consider them a threat.
Again, he wasn't one shotted. He made it out alive and that means he survived against a serious Acno. The first time Jellal took Acno head on he was caught by the dragon and he would've been killed if Christina hadn't saved him. Gildarts took Acno head on too, only difference is he survived meanwhile Jellal was going to die.gildarts didn't fight acno. he got one-shotted in a mere sec ala serena style. it isn't a fight if it last a moment. when jellal decided to push acno to the timelapse he was no longer looking for buying just time. he was fighting him head on. and jellal lasted more than gildarts
you know well what Pof erza can do. one-shotting the strongest kyuukimon with sayla & face power-ups depsite being numb. one shotted dragon eileen while being enchanted with ds magic. stopped Des gray and End's punches with her bare hands. Sema had its hype. Eileen ( a living bieng for more 400 years) said that no human can stop a meteorite. erza said it could kill all the peope there (her included) if it landed. and we know how strong meteorites are. overall in fictions.
Again, he wasn't one shotted. He made it out alive and that means he survived against a serious Acno. The first time Jellal took Acno head on he was caught by the dragon and he would've been killed if Christina hadn't saved him. Gildarts took Acno head on too, only difference is he survived meanwhile Jellal was going to die.
Well looks like she seriously overestimated sema. It obviously wasn't going to kill everyone. Even Acno's eternal flare wasn't able to do that.
He said it all happened in a moment, which means everything happened in a small amount of time. Of course, I wasn't referring to a full on fight, but Gildarts probably avoided a couple of attacks before Acnologia took his arm. So you're telling me that Acno wasn't aiming to kill gildarts when he attacked him? lol what else was he trying to do? just a friendly slap on the arm?. It was already mentioned that Acno was serious aginst Gildarts, if Acno didn't care for gildarts he would've just flown away like he did with every other mage. Acno fought Gildarts because he was strong, Acno tried to kill Jellal because he kept annoying him. He literally says "you, the one who wants to die" does that sound like Acnologia thinks of Jellal as anything more than annoyance. Jellal kept bugging him so of course Acno wanted to kill Jellal, Acno isn't some kind of sage who just forgives everyone who get in his way. Jellal got saved by christina. Acno wanted to kill Gildarts but Gildarts escaped on his own.![]()
^this sums everything up... gildarts didn't even fight in the first. the only explanation of gildarts's words is. acno oneshotted him like a fly then
He went on his way. gildarts in that shape can't do anything. if acnologia cared for gildarts he would've finished him off. jellal's case is different. acno aimed to kill him when he was trying to push him.
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no human can survive against dragon acno anyway.
aaaaand we have this. infinite amount of MP, and he's having such a nice reflex "boost", eh?Irrelevant altogether. He's more powerful now than before, so I have no idea why you felt the need to bring Jellal, someone who just stupidly fed the guy his magic.
you are trying to explain things we didn't see. gildarts literally said everything ended in a moment. I won't going to debate on something so obvious.He said it all happened in a moment, which means everything happened in a small amount of time. Of course, I wasn't referring to a full on fight, but Gildarts probably avoided a couple of attacks before Acnologia took his arm. So you're telling me that Acno wasn't aiming to kill gildarts when he attacked him? lol what else was he trying to do? just a friendly slap on the arm?. It was already mentioned that Acno was serious aginst Gildarts, if Acno didn't care for gildarts he would've just flown away like he did with every other mage. Acno fought Gildarts because he was strong, Acno tried to kill Jellal because he kept annoying him. He literally says "you, the one who wants to die" does that sound like Acnologia thinks of Jellal as anything more than annoyance. Jellal kept bugging him so of course Acno wanted to kill Jellal, Acno isn't some kind of sage who just forgives everyone who get in his way. Jellal got saved by christina. Acno wanted to kill Gildarts but Gildarts escaped on his own.