Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Enima]

how could Gildarts survive that when a person who's said to be his equal cough* god serena *cough cant?

Gildarts surviving Acno's casual? the few chapters back we see his face getting messed up by a mere historia of Serena

maybe you've forgotten how weak a historia is, Hisotria Wahl went from being Laxus' level to a Minerva Level

and an alive version of that character who's messing up Gildarts' face got oneshotted by the same guy Jellal blocked.

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bullshit logic. the fight was offpaneled. August could've used 9999999999999999999999x10^9999999999999999999999999999999 localized ars magna jus so Jellal would look like that. you're also forgetting that GIldarts looked as bad him.

i stepped on a cockroach, i thought it died, so i went back watching One Piece. went to replenish my tea and saw the cockroach missing, but noticed a trail of blood going to a small hole then i didn't bother to chase because Marinefor war's much more interesting than a cockroach. same logic with gildarts. he got wrecked in an "instant", while Jellal was able to buy quite a time facing Acno.

LOL when was it mentioned that Serena is Gildarts' equal?. Wahl was Laxus level?. He survived that long because of his immunity to lightning magic, kinda like how you can't kill Natsu using fire magic, Laxus couldn't kill him using normal lightning. Gildarts was playing with Serena, Srena isn't as strong as Gildarts. What's next? Natsu is Jacob level since Natsu was having trouble against him.

LOL, August looked like he's just been to a spa. He wouldn't look like that if the fight was long. Gildarts looked as bad as him? MY friend there's a huge difference between looking tired and having your head stepped on. Gildarts was just exhausted.

LOL, I saw a snake and a cockroach in my house. The snake was dangerous I instantly killed it, I didn't play around. The cockroach wasn't a big threat, so I took my time.

Snakes
Gildarts
Serena
Igneel

Cockroaches
Jellal

During Acno vs Igneel. We could tell Acno was serious, they were fighting toe to toe and Igneel was actually damaging Acno. It was mentioned that Acno was serious against Gildarts. He blitzed serena with such speed that even August couldn't do anything (he would've done something if he could). Jellal just provided Acno with some food. Jellal is no match for a guy who blitzed the guy that kicked Jellal's ass. Acno wasn't even threatened. And finally Acno gave Jellal a nickname "THE ONE WHO WANTS TO DIE"

 

[Loke]

I have my doubts about Wahl matching Laxus convincingly. He had to set up runes so drawing out the fight out seems ideal. It also wouldn't explain how he was helplessly one shot. Where were those CQC skills then? The malfunction didn't seem severe enough to where he couldn't boast about his immunity.

 

[Axiomus]

The only opponent that I would say Acnologia really struggled with is Igneel. Nobody else has really managed to actually damaged him, even superficially.

 

[LaGOAT]

Similar CQC means it ain't going to be easy, and Wall has better attack power than Laxus. Wall was keeping with Laxus just fine in the fight as well. Laxus ain't just that fast where Wall can't keep up and Wall has massive AoE attacks that would stop Laxus dead in his tracks.

Etherion does not have prep time. He was literally was about do the attack in two panels then Laxus put up the ruins. Where was the prep?

Wall was not serious in the entire fight seeing as he gave Laxus a lot of leeway in that fight. He missed an attack that would've done major damage to Laxus when he was only 20 feet away despite making a shot from 400 km away. He gave Laxus an amp. He agve Laxus time to put up the ruins. He was going crazy over a stupid miscalculation.

A serious Wall would've kept spamming fireballs or used Etherion from the get go. Not charge up the enemy and try to tank the enemy's attack (Wall didn't even try to dodge RL).

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No he wouldn't. Wall had a plethora of moves at his disposal that could majorly damage to Laxus yet he instead used a lightning attack on a Lightning DS. Instead of killing Laxus with Etherion from the get go or spamming his fireball that engulf the entire sky of Hargeon.

Again reread the chapter laxus was trashing him despite being nerfed he was able to take his hits becuase of his immunity. He was able to damage on laxus becuase the MBP started to reacting again. Hence why I said he was able keep up. That's like saying laxus could have use RL from the get go after founding his lighting didn't work. Wall has no proof that he has react speed to dodge laxus hits. He was saved by a non healthy laxus that he had the immunity to his lighting or else he getting low diff

 

[Xaos sama]

I wonder what will people say when

Spoiler

Minerva and others push back Acnologia a bit.

Makarov > Gildarts > Jellal

minerva and the others aren't trying to fight. she simply want to put him on the ship by using her terriority

LOL when was it mentioned that Serena is Gildarts' equal?. Wahl was Laxus level?. He survived that long because of his immunity to lightning magic, kinda like how you can't kill Natsu using fire magic, Laxus couldn't kill him using normal lightning. Gildarts was playing with Serena, Srena isn't as strong as Gildarts. What's next? Natsu is Jacob level since Natsu was having trouble against him.

LOL, August looked like he's just been to a spa. He wouldn't look like that if the fight was long. Gildarts looked as bad as him? MY friend there's a huge difference between looking tired and having your head stepped on. Gildarts was just exhausted.

LOL, I saw a snake and a cockroach in my house. The snake was dangerous I instantly killed it, I didn't play around. The cockroach wasn't a big threat, so I took my time.

Snakes
Gildarts
Serena
Igneel

Cockroaches
Jellal

During Acno vs Igneel. We could tell Acno was serious, they were fighting toe to toe and Igneel was actually damaging Acno. It was mentioned that Acno was serious against Gildarts. He blitzed serena with such speed that even August couldn't do anything (he would've done something if he could). Jellal just provided Acno with some food. Jellal is no match for a guy who blitzed the guy that kicked Jellal's ass. Acno wasn't even threatened. And finally Acno gave Jellal a nickname "THE ONE WHO WANTS TO DIE"

lmao, you are basically contradicting what was shown in the manga. stop this: acno was serious against that and wasn't serious against the other. it's not like you are seeing things from his POV.
the only oppenent who acnologia fought seriously is igneel, nothing else. stop putting him in a class with people who are fodders to him.
gildarts didn't say he was serious against him. he said he was playing with makarov.
we saw serena's & Eileen's & jellal's perfomance against acno. two hold their owns. the other got one-shotted like a scrub. that's a manga fact.
if god serena got one-shotted by human form acnologia, then gildarts will get even a worst treatement by his dragon form. and that will be pointless anyway since acnologia at that time wasn't as strong as he was when he fough those three.
we saw jellal actually fighting head on and pushed a stronger dragon acnologia for a time, and he even used his freaken roar at him that split the sea in two. while gildarts got finished in a moment.
it's funny how you were trying to refer that he meant by moment a short amount time when it obviously meant a spit of second. and like I said, it doesn't evne worth debating since that was weaken version of acnologia. probably weaker than ever tenrou's since it happened 3 years before that.

 

[Enima]

minerva and the others aren't trying to fight. she simply want to put him on the ship by using her terriority

lmao, you are basically contradicting what was shown in the manga. stop this: acno was serious against that and wasn't serious against the other. it's not like you are seeing things from his POV.
the only oppenent who acnologia fought seriously is igneel, nothing else. stop putting him in a class with people who are fodders to him.
gildarts didn't say he was serious against him. he said he was playing with makarov.
we saw serena's & Eileen's & jellal's perfomance against acno. two hold their owns. the other got one-shotted like a scrub. that's a manga fact.
if god serena got one-shotted by human form acnologia, then gildarts will get even a worst treatement by his dragon form. and that will be pointless anyway since acnologia at that time wasn't as strong as he was when he fough those three.
we saw jellal actually fighting head on and pushed a stronger dragon acnologia for a time, and he even used his freaken roar at him that split the sea in two. while gildarts got finished in a moment.
it's funny how you were trying to refer that he meant by moment a short amount time when it obviously meant a spit of second. and like I said, it doesn't evne worth debating since that was weaken version of acnologia. probably weaker than ever tenrou's since it happened 3 years before that.

How could Gildarts know that Acno was playing with Makarov if Acno wasn't serious against Gildarts, that doesn't make any sense.

Eileen held her own against Acno and he praised her. Acnologia searched for Serena because he was a threat and eliminated him. I already proved that Acno was serious agsinst Gildarts. Makarov didn't get one shotted either even though he took Acno head on. Jellal landed two hits on Acno, the first one was a surprise attack and it landed and nothing happened other than Acno eating Jellal's magic to get a boost. Acno then used roar to try and destroy the ship and Jellal but missed both. Jellal then landed a second hit which did nothing, but Jellal got caught and then Christina saved him. Held his own against Acno? I guess i can punch a heavyweight boxer two times, get knocked out and then tell everyone that I held my own against a heavyweight boxer.

So Acno was the only one who got stronger? At the time Gildarts faced Acno, Gildarts was a lot weaker than he is now. You should remember that it was around that time that Jellal got his ass kicked by Natsu. Everybody was weaker back then. Also, when Gildarts faced Acno, Acno had two hands.

You're making it sound as If Jellal's attacks actually had some effect. Remember, attacking a tiger is not hard, anyone can do it. But hurting a tiger by attacking it and staying alive after attacking a tiger is hard. Similarly, attacking Acno is not hard, but hurting Acno by attacking him and staying alive after attacking him is hard

 

[Xaos sama]

How could Gildarts know that Acno was playing with Makarov if Acno wasn't serious against Gildarts, that doesn't make any sense.

Eileen held her own against Acno and he praised her. Acnologia searched for Serena because he was a threat and eliminated him. I already proved that Acno was serious agsinst Gildarts. Makarov didn't get one shotted either even though he took Acno head on. Jellal landed two hits on Acno, the first one was a surprise attack and it landed and nothing happened other than Acno eating Jellal's magic to get a boost. Acno then used roar to try and destroy the ship and Jellal but missed both. Jellal then landed a second hit which did nothing, but Jellal got caught and then Christina saved him. Held his own against Acno? I guess i can punch a heavyweight boxer two times, get knocked out and then tell everyone that I held my own against a heavyweight boxer.

So Acno was the only one who got stronger? At the time Gildarts faced Acno, Gildarts was a lot weaker than he is now. You should remember that it was around that time that Jellal got his ass kicked by Natsu. Everybody was weaker back then. Also, when Gildarts faced Acno, Acno had two hands.

You're making it sound as If Jellal's attacks actually had some effect. Remember, attacking a tiger is not hard, anyone can do it. But hurting a tiger by attacking it and staying alive after attacking a tiger is hard. Similarly, attacking Acno is not hard, but hurting Acno by attacking him and staying alive after attacking him is hard

all what you said doesnt make any sense again, acnologia didn't search for GS because he's a threat, but because he wanted to kill all the DS. stop creating things from your owns. same for when he landed close to wendy's place and reconized her a dragon slayers. you are trying to make GS looks good that it isn't even funny anymore. jellal performed better than GS. end of discussion.
it's easy to see who's got a lot stronger than his past self. gildarts got handicapped after the fight, lost an arm, leg and organ. had a one year to improve himself after the tenrou island incident, acnologia had 8 years. and again, if acnolgoia improved by %10, that's far more magical power than anything gildarts can acheive in his lifetime.
jellal lost to eatherion DF natsu and he didn't get to cast AB at the end of the fight.
acnologia eating jellal's magic was proof that his perfomance was better. he never shows it before. jellal could've made things worse for acno if his magic wasn't being sucked. you are making it looks like that feeding him magic was a bad thing.
the conclusion is:
> GS achieved nothing.
> Eileen pushed him back and dodged one of his attack.
> jellal blocked one of his attack & blitzed him.

last but not least, dragon acno used his roar on jellal alone. at that time the ship was paralyzed because of acno's previous attack. it was easy to destroy it if he aimed at it. acno kept aiming at jellal but his roar didn't reach him.
you are contradicting again what's shown on the manga.

Spoiler

 

[**Silver**]

LoL Acnologia even speed blized the Guy who stomped Jellal...

Base august barrier was faster than Laxus Nuke...

Jellal performed better against Acnologia because the Story demanded it...

 

[Enima]

all what you said doesnt make any sense again, acnologia didn't search for GS because he's a threat, but because he wanted to kill all the DS. stop creating things from your owns. same for when he landed close to wendy's place and reconized her a dragon slayers. you are trying to make GS looks good that it isn't even funny anymore. jellal performed better than GS. end of discussion.
it's easy to see who's got a lot stronger than his past self. gildarts got handicapped after the fight, lost an arm, leg and organ. had a one year to improve himself after the tenrou island incident, acnologia had 8 years. and again, if acnolgoia improved by %10, that's far more magical power than anything gildarts can acheive in his lifetime.
jellal lost to eatherion DF natsu and he didn't get to cast AB at the end of the fight.
acnologia eating jellal's magic was proof that his perfomance was better. he never shows it before. jellal could've made things worse for acno if his magic wasn't being sucked. you are making it looks like that feeding him magic was a bad thing.
the conclusion is:
> GS achieved nothing.
> Eileen pushed him back and dodged one of his attack.
> jellal blocked one of his attack & blitzed him.

last but not least, dragon acno used his roar on jellal alone. at that time the ship was paralyzed because of acno's previous attack. it was easy to destroy it if he aimed at it. acno kept aiming at jellal but his roar didn't reach him.
you are contradicting again what's shown on the manga.

Spoiler

He searched for wendy because only Dragon slayer can become potential threats. Why did they send the DS to the future?, to test their time machine? They sent the DS to kill Acno. A normal person cannot potentially grow strong enough to kill Acno and the best example for that is August. DS are Erza is stronger than Wendy and even she wouldn't have won against Irene if it wasn't for wendy's DS magic.

Acnologia lost his arm. The time doesn't really matter in FT verse anyway. Because by that logic Jura should be leagues ahead of Natsu.

He lost to DF etherion Natsu when at a time when Natsu was fodder. Not impressive. He didn't get to cast AB at the end of the fight? That basically means he got beaten before he could cast a certain spell.

How does Acno eating Jellal's magic make Jellal's performance better.

Things Jellal did against Acno
Attacking Acno without doing any damage: Gajeel has done it, the tenrou team has done it, Makarov has done it.

Blocking his attacks: Pretty much everyone took a hit from enhanced Acno's attack and survived

Spoiler

Dodging his attacks: Again, Acno wasn't serious against Jellal. Acno blitzed August, do you think he can't do it against Jellal. But here are some other people who have dodged Acno's attacks.

Spoiler

Juvia can do it

Spoiler

Looks like Laxus managed to dodge Acno Before the time skip. Impressive huh?

 

[Xaos sama]

Man, those arguments , anyway that would be my last reply. forgive me.
i'll only say one thing. Df eatherion natsu who you just called a fodder. destroyed TOH with a mere punch. not even a spell.
jellal failed to cast AB because of erza's slash in red pants. not because of what you said.

 

[King of kings]

Man, those arguments , anyway that would be my last reply. forgive me.
i'll only say one thing. Df eatherion natsu who you just called a fodder. destroyed TOH with a mere punch. not even a spell.
jellal failed to cast AB because of erza's slash in red pants. not because of what you said.

Natsu can one-shot Goku with flames of savage emotions

 

[Raven]

Same here i think the dragon physical power are stronger than their magical power. Igneel couldn't do much against Acnologia with magic power, His physical power did most of the dmg i guess. Mira in this chapter says physical things can work on Acnologia and i think it's supported since Christiana was able to push him back.
To conclude
Dragans have average magic power ( but still op against humans), High physical power
Dragons have high magical resistance, Average physical resistance

 

[Axiomus]

You can wrestle a dragon or push it back if you hit it with enough force, though you'll need the power of a dragon to actually damage them through their scales. That's what dragon slaying magic does, which is the power of a dragon enchanted into a human. You can also enchant a dragon's power into a sword, apparently. Though we don't know if Erza's sword still has Wendy's power.

Whether or not you can actually beat a dragon depends on the power level of the dragon. Acnologia is vulnerable to the attacks of another dragon or human dragon slayers, but he is so strong that he can tank most attacks from Igneel-level opponents. It takes Igneel going all out and sacrificing his arm to take Acnologia's arm.

 

[Star Frost]

You can wrestle a dragon or push it back if you hit it with enough force, though you'll need the power of a dragon to actually damage them through their scales. That's what dragon slaying magic does, which is the power of a dragon enchanted into a human. You can also enchant a dragon's power into a sword, apparently. Though we don't know if Erza's sword still has Wendy's power.

Whether or not you can actually beat a dragon depends on the power level of the dragon. Acnologia is vulnerable to the attacks of another dragon or human dragon slayers, but he is so strong that he can tank most attacks from Igneel-level opponents. It takes Igneel going all out and sacrificing his arm to take Acnologia's arm.

It doesn't, she pretty much confirmed it from the latest chapter when she explained that's what they need if they're gonna use a sword.

 

[Axiomus]

It doesn't, she pretty much confirmed it from the latest chapter when she explained that's what they need if they're gonna use a sword.

You mean Erza's sword containing Wendy's power? Yeah, I think it ran out as well.

 

[LaGOAT]

You can wrestle a dragon or push it back if you hit it with enough force, though you'll need the power of a dragon to actually damage them through their scales. That's what dragon slaying magic does, which is the power of a dragon enchanted into a human. You can also enchant a dragon's power into a sword, apparently. Though we don't know if Erza's sword still has Wendy's power.

Whether or not you can actually beat a dragon depends on the power level of the dragon. Acnologia is vulnerable to the attacks of another dragon or human dragon slayers, but he is so strong that he can tank most attacks from Igneel-level opponents. It takes Igneel going all out and sacrificing his arm to take Acnologia's arm.

It's even up to debate that if ingeel was in his prime could be match acno

 

[Arjuna]

It's even up to debate that if ingeel was in his prime could be match acno

Metalicana had already said Igneel's power was falling rapidly with every passage of time and he was just a shadow of his true self.


So maybe Prime Igneel could have defeated Acnologia.

 

[Invel > Zeref]

Metalicana had already said Igneel's power was falling rapidly with every passage of time and he was just a shadow of his true self.


So maybe Prime Igneel could have defeated Acnologia.

Didn't Igneel have the dragon slayers sent to the future because he was unable to defeat Acno? And didn't Acno steal the dragon's souls proving he is stronger?

 

[Arjuna]

Didn't Igneel have the dragon slayers sent to the future because he was unable to defeat Acno? And didn't Acno steal the dragon's souls proving he is stronger?

True because that era had very little had very little ethernano for the Dragons to fight Acnologia.

Even though Igneel sent them,in Tartaros he personally tried to kill Acnologia.

 

[Axiomus]

Didn't Igneel have the dragon slayers sent to the future because he was unable to defeat Acno? And didn't Acno steal the dragon's souls proving he is stronger?

The dragon slayers weren't meant to fight Acnologia. They were to serve as hosts for the dragons, so they can recover their powers. Acnologia stole their soul and the ethernano 400 years ago wasn't high enough for them to recover their power.