Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Enima]

you are trying to explain things we didn't see. gildarts literally said everything ended in a moment. I won't going to debate on something so obvious.
acno fought him because he was strong? zeref said that acno doesn't give a crap about human. they are just Insects to him. gildarts stood on his way and acno ended him in a moment that's all we know. the same way jellal stood against acno who was trying to kill wendy. jellal actually dodged his roar and hit him.
serena who's gildarts equal got one shotted in a moment too. while jellal blocked one one of his attack and pushed him with one of his spells. it's clear to me who did better.

Yes, a short amount of time is called a moment. Gildarts could've hit Acnologia and then he might've lost and we could say it was over in a moment, can't we?. If Gildarts had landed a hit on Acno that made him bleed and then Acno Ripped Gildarts arm off and all of this happened in under three seconds then it could be called a moment. It's unclear who did better against Acno, so we can't decide anything based on that. But it was clear who did better against August and that was Gildarts.

He clearly cared about Irene after seeing her fighting prowess. Acnologia ended him? Gildarts is still alive. You keep repeating that Jellal hit Acno but why would Acno dodge any of his attacks. Remember, before time-skip every time Natsu challenged Gildarts for a fight and attacked him Gildarts wouldn't dodge it insted he would just take the attack, Why? because the attack is not going to damage him so there's no point in dodging it. It's the same with Acno why would he dodge an attack that's not going to damage him. Pushing something has nothing to do with fighting prowess. Even christina could push acno. The attack Jellal blocked was meant to kill wendy, it was much weaker than a regular attack from acno. For example the Natsu's against Ajeel's underlings was much weaker than Natsu's attack against Zeref. They don't use the same amount of power against all opponents.

 

[**Silver**]

You can't call that "pressuring Acnologia". He landed two hits with meteor and annoyed Acno a little bit. But that wasn't anything impressive.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?. Larcade's magic worked against Irene, Gildarts and Zeref because they weren't expecting it. Even August got stabbed by a knife when he wasn't prepared, so cheap shots don't count. Laxus did significantly better against wahl even with his sickness than Sting did against Larcade. Sting had a type advantage against larcade, it was like Natsu fighting against a fire mage and yet he needed help while Laxus beat Wahl even with a disadvantage. In fact Laxus was doing better after the fight than he was before the fight

First of all Larcade has no real feats that put him above God serena even if he did how does that make kagura stronger than God Serena. You're putting Elfman and Lisanna above God S (a spriggan who beat the four gods of Ishgar without breaking a sweat) because they barely managed to beat Ajeel (Who hasn't won a single battle). Mirajane barely managed to beat a spriggan who had his eyes closed during the whole fight, wow that must've been tough.

They both fought August. Gildarts was more impressive.

lol why Acnologia was eating Jellal magic instead off tanking it? so yes Jellal pressured Acnologia why eat magaic when yo can tank it without any effort?

Larcade is the second strongest Demon so yes Larcade is stronger than Bloodman/Bradman... Bradman---->God Serena

what good feats God Serena exactly has? The Goi feats is even Below Tartaros demons Jura is the only expection and with current power levels Jura is Low-tier mage...

yes Elfman/lisanna DEFEATED SPRIGGAN TIER OPPONENT

Spriggans--->Mard/Hades and even Mard can solo God of Ishgars...

Kagura is stronger than Tartaros demons and Tartaros Demons--->God of Ishgars

 

[Xaos sama]

Yes, a short amount of time is called a moment. Gildarts could've hit Acnologia and then he might've lost and we could say it was over in a moment, can't we?. If Gildarts had landed a hit on Acno that made him bleed and then Acno Ripped Gildarts arm off and all of this happened in under three seconds then it could be called a moment. It's unclear who did better against Acno, so we can't decide anything based on that. But it was clear who did better against August and that was Gildarts.

He clearly cared about Irene after seeing her fighting prowess. Acnologia ended him? Gildarts is still alive. You keep repeating that Jellal hit Acno but why would Acno dodge any of his attacks. Remember, before time-skip every time Natsu challenged Gildarts for a fight and attacked him Gildarts wouldn't dodge it insted he would just take the attack, Why? because the attack is not going to damage him so there's no point in dodging it. It's the same with Acno why would he dodge an attack that's not going to damage him. Pushing something has nothing to do with fighting prowess. Even christina could push acno. The attack Jellal blocked was meant to kill wendy, it was much weaker than a regular attack from acno. For example the Natsu's against Ajeel's underlings was much weaker than Natsu's attack against Zeref. They don't use the same amount of power against all opponents.

i could say the same for jellal against august. how gildarts even did better than jellal? the only way he could do better is after knowing the only kind of magic that can work against august is holder type. jellal didn't have that kind of advantage because he didn't have any holder type mage by his side. before getting that advantage gildarts couldn't even touch august and he was getting his ass kicked. we didn't see what happened with gildarts and acno, as we didn't see what happened between august and jellal. you can create a lot of scenarios to make one looks bad, while the other looks good. "even christina could push acno" you say it like it is actually easy to push. that's proof of christina strong. actually pushing acno while getting your magic sucked is a great feat. you are trying to explain things from your point of view. there was no need for acno to held back just because the enemy is weak. the attack aimed to annihilate erza too. is she also weak?

 

[Enima]

i could say the same for jellal against august. how gildarts even did better than jellal? the only way he could do better is after knowing the only kind of magic that can work against august is holder type. jellal didn't have that kind of advantage because he didn't have any holder type mage by his side. before getting that advantage gildarts couldn't even touch august and he was getting his ass kicked. we didn't see what happened with gildarts and acno, as we didn't see what happened between august and jellal. you can create a lot of scenarios to make one looks bad, while the other looks good. "even christina could push acno" you say it like it is actually easy to push. that's proof of christina strong. actually pushing acno while getting your magic sucked is a great feat. you are trying to explain things from your point of view. there was no need for acno to held back just because the enemy is weak. the attack aimed to annihilate erza too. is she also weak?

He tanked August's attacks and he didn't end up like this

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Yes we didn't see what happened between them but we know how it ended don't we. Gildarts survived by himself Jellal got saved.

He was aiming for Erza too? I'm pretty sure he was aiming to kill Wendy, the dragon slayer.

lol why Acnologia was eating Jellal magic instead off tanking it? so yes Jellal pressured Acnologia why eat magaic when yo can tank it without any effort?

Larcade is the second strongest Demon so yes Larcade is stronger than Bloodman/Bradman... Bradman---->God Serena

what good feats God Serena exactly has? The Goi feats is even Below Tartaros demons Jura is the only expection and with current power levels Jura is Low-tier mage...

yes Elfman/lisanna DEFEATED SPRIGGAN TIER OPPONENT

Spriggans--->Mard/Hades and even Mard can solo God of Ishgars...

Kagura is stronger than Tartaros demons and Tartaros Demons--->God of Ishgars

Maybe to replenish energy. He was chasing christina after all why not eat some food that's right in front of you.

Larcade is the second strongest demon? and Bloodman is above God serena what feats do they have?

Jura was pretty much Laxus tier pre time-skip and Laxus was well above every demon other than Mard geer and therefore Jura could've easily beaten any demon other than Mard geer. Kagura couldn't beat Erza who was well below Laxus. So... yeah since God S is leagues above Jura and Jura was stronger than Kagura. God S is stronger.

 

[Xaos sama]

He tanked August's attacks and he didn't end up like this

Spoiler

Yes we didn't see what happened between them but we know how it ended don't we. Gildarts survived by himself Jellal got saved.

He was aiming for Erza too? I'm pretty sure he was aiming to kill Wendy, the dragon slayer..

if august wasn't retarded enough to commit suicide using ars magia. gildarts state won't be any better.
tanking his stick? while jellal tanked a stronger spiral pain by august's MP. // you really think gildarts with those injury will survive against acno? lmao. without a leg and an arm & an organ? what can gildarts do? don't make it sounds ridiculous.
yeah, he obviously aimed for both of them. specially erza. he wouldn't stood in front of her if that wasn't the case

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anyway things are so obvious. there's no need to make gildarts's situation looks good while jellal's looks bad.

 

[Enima]

if august wasn't retarded enough to commit suicide using ars magia. gildarts state won't be any better.
tanking his stick? while jellal tanked a stronger spiral pain by august's MP. // you really think gildarts with those injury will survive against acno? lmao. without a leg and an arm & an organ? what can gildarts do? don't make it sounds ridiculous.
yeah, he obviously aimed for both of them. specially erza. he wouldn't stood in front of her if that wasn't the case

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anyway things are so obvious. there's no need to make gildarts's situation looks good while jellal's looks bad.

He tanked a stronger meteor.

Well he escaped by himself while Jellal couldn't.
Ok Jellal tanked an attack that was meant to kill Erza. Gildarts can't stop that?

 

[Skibbie]

He tanked a stronger meteor.

Well he escaped by himself while Jellal couldn't.
Ok Jellal tanked an attack that was meant to kill Erza. Gildarts can't stop that?

how could Gildarts survive that when a person who's said to be his equal cough* god serena *cough cant?

Gildarts surviving Acno's casual? the few chapters back we see his face getting messed up by a mere historia of Serena

maybe you've forgotten how weak a historia is, Hisotria Wahl went from being Laxus' level to a Minerva Level

and an alive version of that character who's messing up Gildarts' face got oneshotted by the same guy Jellal blocked.

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He tanked August's attacks and he didn't end up like this

Spoiler

Yes we didn't see what happened between them but we know how it ended don't we. Gildarts survived by himself Jellal got saved.

He was aiming for Erza too? I'm pretty sure he was aiming to kill Wendy, the dragon slayer.


Maybe to replenish energy. He was chasing christina after all why not eat some food that's right in front of you.

Larcade is the second strongest demon? and Bloodman is above God serena what feats do they have?

Jura was pretty much Laxus tier pre time-skip and Laxus was well above every demon other than Mard geer and therefore Jura could've easily beaten any demon other than Mard geer. Kagura couldn't beat Erza who was well below Laxus. So... yeah since God S is leagues above Jura and Jura was stronger than Kagura. God S is stronger.

bullshit logic. the fight was offpaneled. August could've used 9999999999999999999999x10^9999999999999999999999999999999 localized ars magna jus so Jellal would look like that. you're also forgetting that GIldarts looked as bad him.

i stepped on a cockroach, i thought it died, so i went back watching One Piece. went to replenish my tea and saw the cockroach missing, but noticed a trail of blood going to a small hole then i didn't bother to chase because Marinefor war's much more interesting than a cockroach. same logic with gildarts. he got wrecked in an "instant", while Jellal was able to buy quite a time facing Acno.

 

[King of kings]

Natsu >>>>>>>Jiren

 

[Demon Hunter]

Natsu >>>>>>>Jiren

I wonder what will people say when

Spoiler

Minerva and others push back Acnologia a bit.

Makarov > Gildarts > Jellal

 

[Star Frost]

I wonder what will people say when

Spoiler

Minerva and others push back Acnologia a bit.

Makarov > Gildarts > Jellal

They'll probably say that makes them stronger than those 3

 

[Axiomus]

"even christina could push acno" you say it like it is actually easy to push. that's proof of christina strong.

Honestly, Christina was pretty impressive in this arc. Ichiya was able to use it to block Wall's cannon, and Wall arguably has the best firepower among the average Spriggans. In comparison, Natsu, Gajeel, and Wendy were oneshotting the Alvarez Airships. Credit where credit is due. If I'm being honest, the Trimens are below average as mages, even compared to fodder levels like Milliana and Meredy. Yet somehow Blue Pegasus is still a relevant guild compared to Lamia Scale and Sabertooth. I wouldn't be surprised if Christina (and Ichiya) is the only reason for this. So the airship is legit.

 

[King of kings]

Natsu is the strongest anime character all time above Kami Tenchi

 

[Loke]

aaaaand we have this. infinite amount of MP, and he's having such a nice reflex "boost", eh?

oh!oh! i know lets play a game, spot the difference between that pic and this(the pic bellow happened after Zeref said they can't play around anymore because Acno's here). i know this game is so easy because the difference between these two is sooooo obvious cough* Zeref's Reflex cough*. the one above(where zeref has INFINITE MP) he's having such an easy time dodging and has "GODLY" reflex, right?

Laxus with Wendy's Boost can't touch human Acno, while Jellal Blitzed him twice, and even outspeed him in his dragon form flight speed.

Blitzed him and did what? What'd he accomplish? Also using Zeref to prove a point, when I'm pretty sure he stood right there and took a Demolition Fist head on, kinda falls flat. Jellal is irrelevant now, in some sea somewhere while Laxus is facing a stronger incarnation of Acnologia. Let it go.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Laxus with Wendy's Boost can't touch human Acno, while Jellal Blitzed him twice, and even outspeed him in his dragon form flight speed.

"Can't touch human Acno" You talk like Acno has been dodging Laxus's attacks left and right despite the fact that he hasn't. Acno blew back Laxus and Cobra before they had a chance to even attack. Same with Sting and Rouge. He didn't dodge shit. Acno could dodge them (he's the fastest character in the series) but he didn't like you're implying.

Acnologia in dragon form got blitzed not because he wasn't fast enough to react but because in dragon form he never dodges attacks from lowly humans that don't use DS magic. He's never done it before in the series. He has scales so why would he need to dodge from a non DS character? In fact Ravines of Time powered human Acno got "blitzed" by Gajeel not because he couldn't dodge the attack but because he knew it wouldn't damage him just like he did with Jellal.

maybe you've forgotten how weak a historia is, Hisotria Wahl went from being Laxus' level to a Minerva Level

"Laxus' level"

Your excessive use of Jim Carrey gifs don't help prove your points mate.

The only time Wahl was fighting Laxus on an equal playing field was when Laxus was having heart attacks and couldn't use his normal lightning on him. The second Laxus cured himself and used a different type of lightning, he straight up one shot Wahl. And he was half dead by the time he started using RL. How in hell is that them being on the same level?

 

[LaGOAT]

1base natsu 2.BKDM 3.DF/ig base form 4.FKDM 5.LDFM base natsu pretty much oneshots evry1 except acno (for now) @Skibbie might as well say jellal>zeref

 

[Jko]

"Can't touch human Acno" You talk like Acno has been dodging Laxus's attacks left and right despite the fact that he hasn't. Acno blew back Laxus and Cobra before they had a chance to even attack. Same with Sting and Rouge. He didn't dodge shit. Acno could dodge them (he's the fastest character in the series) but he didn't like you're implying.

Acnologia in dragon form got blitzed not because he wasn't fast enough to react but because in dragon form he never dodges attacks from lowly humans that don't use DS magic. He's never done it before in the series. He has scales so why would he need to dodge from a non DS character? In fact Ravines of Time powered human Acno got "blitzed" by Gajeel not because he couldn't dodge the attack but because he knew it wouldn't damage him just like he did with Jellal.




"Laxus' level"

Your excessive use of Jim Carrey gifs don't help prove your points mate.

The only time Wahl was fighting Laxus on an equal playing field was when Laxus was having heart attacks and couldn't use his normal lightning on him. The second Laxus cured himself and used a different type of lightning, he straight up one shot Wahl. And he was half dead by the time he started using RL. How in hell is that them being on the same level?

Wall did have Etherion and he did match Laxus in CQC when he wasn't sick. Wall is not someone Laxus can easily win against especially if Wall doesn't go mental. He'll probably get killed if Wall uses Etherion. Laxus was going to get massive damage from just the fireball if he didn't "miss" the attack (from practically 20 feet despite making a shot from 400km away). Don't see Laxus oneshotting a serious Wall.

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@Skibbie bruh Acno didn't care for Jellal. Jellal didn't scratch Acno at all and was disregarded in the fight. He literally caught him like a mosquito, and could've crushed Jellal like Irene destroying Erza with a slap. Stop the Jellal overplay man. The guys isn't as strong as you state.

If Acno cared about Jellal he would've been Serena. Heck if Acno was a cent serious, he definetely wouldn't have let them get on the ship and runaway. He would have easily demolished the ship with a simple hand wave and killed them on the spot. Acno toyed with them, and it was pretty clear especially when he was amusing the Christina instead of destroying it from the get go.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Wall did have Etherion and he did match Laxus in CQC when he wasn't sick. Wall is not someone Laxus can easily win against especially if Wall doesn't go mental. He'll probably get killed if Wall uses Etherion. Laxus was going to get massive damage from just the fireball if he didn't "miss" the attack (from practically 20 feet despite making a shot from 400km away). Don't see Laxus oneshotting a serious Wall.

1st, having similar CQC to someone doesn't mean your on their level. 2nd, Wahl landed like 2 hits on healthy Laxus. Meanwhile healthy laxus countered most of his attacks and blitzed him a couple times. Laxus's CQC isn't way better than Wahl's but it's clear who the better is.

Etherion has prep time, Walh using that in a battle against a speedster like Laxus is suicide.

"Serious Wahl" was when he used his assault mode. That mode was still blitzed by healthy Laxus like twice and had all his attacks dodged. Walh in that fight never once dodged an attack from Laxus so unless ur telling me he was never serious in that fight there's no way he's dodging RL which one shots him.

 

[LaGOAT]

Wall did have Etherion and he did match Laxus in CQC when he wasn't sick. Wall is not someone Laxus can easily win against especially if Wall doesn't go mental. He'll probably get killed if Wall uses Etherion. Laxus was going to get massive damage from just the fireball if he didn't "miss" the attack (from practically 20 feet despite making a shot from 400km away). Don't see Laxus oneshotting a serious Wall.

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@Skibbie bruh Acno didn't care for Jellal. Jellal didn't scratch Acno at all and was disregarded in the fight. He literally caught him like a mosquito, and could've crushed Jellal like Irene destroying Erza with a slap. Stop the Jellal overplay man. The guys isn't as strong as you state.

If Acno cared about Jellal he would've been Serena. Heck if Acno was a cent serious, he definetely wouldn't have let them get on the ship and runaway. He would have easily demolished the ship with a simple hand wave and killed them on the spot. Acno toyed with them, and it was pretty clear especially when he was amusing the Christina instead of destroying it from the get go.

Wall was able toe to toe laxus because his immunity to lighting or else he getting stomp/low diff wall only had a chance becuase laxus was nerfed

 

[Jko]

1st, having similar CQC to someone doesn't mean your on their level. 2nd, Wahl landed like 2 hits on healthy Laxus. Meanwhile healthy laxus countered most of his attacks and blitzed him a couple times. Laxus's CQC isn't way better than Wahl's but it's clear who the better is.

Etherion has prep time, Walh using that in a battle against a speedster like Laxus is suicide.

"Serious Wahl" was when he used his assault mode. That mode was still blitzed by healthy Laxus like twice and had all his attacks dodged. Walh in that fight never once dodged an attack from Laxus so unless ur telling me he was never serious in that fight there's no way he's dodging RL which one shots him.

Similar CQC means it ain't going to be easy, and Wall has better attack power than Laxus. Wall was keeping with Laxus just fine in the fight as well. Laxus ain't just that fast where Wall can't keep up and Wall has massive AoE attacks that would stop Laxus dead in his tracks.

Etherion does not have prep time. He was literally was about do the attack in two panels then Laxus put up the ruins. Where was the prep?

Wall was not serious in the entire fight seeing as he gave Laxus a lot of leeway in that fight. He missed an attack that would've done major damage to Laxus when he was only 20 feet away despite making a shot from 400 km away. He gave Laxus an amp. He agve Laxus time to put up the ruins. He was going crazy over a stupid miscalculation.

A serious Wall would've kept spamming fireballs or used Etherion from the get go. Not charge up the enemy and try to tank the enemy's attack (Wall didn't even try to dodge RL).

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Wall was able toe to toe laxus because his immunity to lighting or else he getting stomp/low diff wall only had a chance becuase laxus was nerfed

No he wouldn't. Wall had a plethora of moves at his disposal that could majorly damage to Laxus yet he instead used a lightning attack on a Lightning DS. Instead of killing Laxus with Etherion from the get go or spamming his fireball that engulf the entire sky of Hargeon.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Similar CQC means it ain't going to be easy, and Wall has better attack power than Laxus. Wall was keeping with Laxus just fine in the fight as well. Laxus ain't just that fast where Wall can't keep up and Wall has massive AoE attacks that would stop Laxus dead in his tracks.

Similar CQC only means it's not going to be easy if you fight only in CQC. Laxus has better attack power than Wahl. His casual nuke can one shot spriggans like Ajeel while Wahl's barrage of attacks against SICK Laxus didn't even take him out. If Wahl can keep up then why couldn't he dodge any of Laxus's blitzes in the entire fight?

Etherion does not have prep time. He was literally was about do the attack in two panels then Laxus put up the ruins. Where was the prep?

If Laxus had time to make a jutsu shiki circle while Wahl was powering up his etherion then he has time to blitz him while he's powering it up. Wahl's etherion is also featless so I don't know why your hyping it up.

Wall was not serious in the entire fight seeing as he gave Laxus a lot of leeway in that fight. He missed an attack that would've done major damage to Laxus when he was only 20 feet away despite making a shot from 400 km away. He gave Laxus an amp. He agve Laxus time to put up the ruins. He was going crazy over a stupid miscalculation.

Wahl missing an attack doesn't mean he wasn't serious, it means Laxus's reaction is that good. You saying that he gave Laxus time to put up the ruins proves my point that etherion has prep. Wahl didn't amp Laxus on purpose lmao.

A serious Wall would've kept spamming fireballs or used Etherion from the get go. Not charge up the enemy and try to tank the enemy's attack (Wall didn't even try to dodge RL).

The fact that he didn't use etherion from the get go and only used it when Laxus couldn't move implies it has prep lol. Wahl was spamming attacks on Laxus so not sure what your point on "spamming fireballs" is? Wahl didn't dodge because he couldn't not because he didn't try to. Again, Wahl couldn't dodge Laxus's attached once in this fight.

EDIT: Actually screw everything I said. I promised myself to stop arguing power ranking in this manga because of how bad the power ranking is. I'm already getting a headache from this debate so I'm out