Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[CaptainTorch]

Hmm, I wonder.. The Spriggan 12 were overhyped, but they were by no means weak. And even though Current Natsu could take almost all of them out, I am interested how would he manage with his other forms.
Natsu(base) vs Spriggan 12 and Natsu(FDKM) vs Spriggan 12. Obviously, one on one, not natsu vs all of them at once.
Who would win?
(Flames of Savage Emotions is obviously restricted)

 

[Jko]

Metalicana had already said Igneel's power was falling rapidly with every passage of time and he was just a shadow of his true self.


So maybe Prime Igneel could have defeated Acnologia.

Igneel already lost in his prime along with the 4 other Dragons. Acno beat half dead Igneel without even using his full power.

 

[Arjuna]

Igneel already lost in his prime along with the 4 other Dragons. Acno beat half dead Igneel without even using his full power.

Even that his half dead state was falling in power i.e. he couldn't keep his half dead powerlevel.He was becoming even weaker.

 

[Luca Blight]

Without cheats: Irene > August > Larcade >> Dimaria = Serena > the rest.

With cheats: I have no idea. It's possible Dimaria is the strongest, seeing as how Natsu only broke through her dimension due to E.N.D's convenient awakening.

 

[sharkai]

Without cheats: Irene > August > Larcade >> Dimaria = Serena > the rest.

With cheats: I have no idea. It's possible Dimaria is the strongest, seeing as how Natsu only broke through her dimension due to E.N.D's convenient awakening.

Let me fixe that for you
Without cheats:
Irene > August > Larcade >> Dimaria = Serena > the rest> zeref >> fh zeref

 

[Seven777]

Spoiler: Dragon Cry Movie

Is the movie canon? Kinda irks me that Erza has Grand Chariot, feels like Jellal's magic is getting shipped off to everyone. With August taking Meteor from him, Eileen using a better version of Sema somehow, and now Erza's gotten Grand Chariot? Poor old Jelly, Heavenly Body Magic used to be so awesome and unique, now everyone has some version of it.

 

[LaGOAT]

@MLG Bradman bro it's funny he wouldn't accept the laxus nuke. But accept that of Wendy's wasn't there to save erza ass Irene would have no-low diff her. Or bluenote can't no diff cana becuase gildartz saved her or Lucy couldn't beat the girl from RT if obra didn't erase her magic. Or acno wouldn't oneshot erza if jellal didn't save her like I use his logic against him but wouldn't accept it by his logic erza>anco becuase anco hasn't shown to bust a meteor

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Spoiler: Dragon Cry Movie

Is the movie canon? Kinda irks me that Erza has Grand Chariot, feels like Jellal's magic is getting shipped off to everyone. With August taking Meteor from him, Eileen using a better version of Sema somehow, and now Erza's gotten Grand Chariot? Poor old Jelly, Heavenly Body Magic used to be so awesome and unique, now everyone has some version of it.

Haven't watch the movie but I doubt it

 

[sharkai]

I sometime wonder if u can read properly. read ur post u just quoted and read my post again to get a full comprehension.

You lied about me saying laxus is not a springgan tier
I refuted that
And said you think laxus can solo 10 springgnas

Then you replied and i am assuming you replied to this part that you dont believe in the half those things.

So i gave a you your post where you think laxus can low low diff 8 springgans.
I am assuming low low diff is one shot kill. Interestingly raven tail were one shotted one member at a time
Rest is just connecting stuffs

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So calling Laxus "embarassing" and "completely useless" isnt trashing a character in your eyes? Haha, yeah, alright man.

And MLG Bradman already told you why he said "earn", because Laxus forced August to save Azir's life with a single casual attack(among other things), but since you have problems with people having their own opinions on the events of the manga you decided to taunt the guy and accuse him of not defending his point, all because he hadnt replied to you in less than a freaking days time. Pathetic.

Laxus having Erza's feats? DIdnt i just say that he beat Tempester, not Torafuzar? When did i mention any of Erza's feats?

No, im comparing Eileen to a beefed up Acnologia now .

I am comparing natsu with laxus.
And everyine is trash and embarrassing compared to natsu after he defeated zeref with infinit power

Lol that guy ran once before from me after one reply after i pointed his point of irene might not know th power of springgans since she hasnt seen them use magic for a while. And in the same post he said mira said mira plus erza might not be able to jura.
He vanished after i pointed out mira has never seen jura do magic before that hype.

You couldn't find speed feat for laxus so you gave erza feats to laxus
In laxus vs natsu thread. Recently

 

[LaGOAT]

You lied about me saying laxus is not a springgan tier
I refuted that
And said you think laxus can solo 10 springgnas

Then you replied and i am assuming you replied to this part that you dont believe in the half those things.

So i gave a you your post where you think laxus can low low diff 8 springgans.
I am assuming low low diff is one shot kill. Interestingly raven tail were one shotted one member at a time
Rest is just connecting stuffs

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I am comparing natsu with laxus.
And everyine is trash and embarrassing compared to natsu after he defeated zeref with infinit power

Lol that guy ran once before from me after one reply after i pointed his point of irene might not know th power of springgans since she hasnt seen them use magic for a while. And in the same post he said mira said mira plus erza might not be able to jura.
He vanished after i pointed out mira has never seen jura do magic before that hype.

I'll repeat this one more time read my post again and try to read it one word at a time if u till don't understand and if u don't till don't comprehend what I said let me know

 

[sharkai]

/sigh

this is how I rate Laxus and Erza compared to each other

Attack Power - Laxus > Erza (almost twice as much)
Durability - Laxus > Erza (close)
Endurance - Erza >>>> Laxus (way beyond)
Speed - Laxus >>> Erza (way beyond)
AoE - Laxus >>> Erza (way beyond, unless you count her attack from the movie)

Laxus > Erza - mid - high diff

THE END

Unfortunately that is more your point of view than anything else. And not very smart one at that.
Why?
Simple laxus has no attack power feat other than red lightening.
His nuke is featless
And all other attacks werent effective against wahl
So basically he is featless other than red lightening.
Compare red lightening to erza pof slash is a no brainer.
Irene being on a whole different level compared to wahl
And irene top tier move over powered
And possibilty of wahl being super weak to red lightening
Leaves a laxus far behind erza in attack power.
Its more like
Pof erza slash>Dues sema>> wahl etherion > red lightening

He also doesnt have much speed feat. He blitz wahl in lb
Erza kinda blitz ajeel in a normal armor.
And she also dodged irene spam in her faster armor. Including that huge nuke. Laxus lb is max as fast as red pant erza.

So these two are just made up
Pretty much equal to me saying
Erza mid high diff aconologia.
No feats. No reason. Just wank

The rest seems valid. Though no way to know durability either. Laxus organs were in bad state

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I'll repeat this one more time read my post again and try to read it one word at a time if u till don't understand and if u don't till don't comprehend what I said let me know

Just save me the problem say what you meant man

 

[LaGOAT]

When did I say laxus>>>>>>>>>erza? When did I say laxus solo 10 spriggan at the same time? Ur assuming a low diff=oneshot that's a no diff genius. Laxus didnt low diff tempesta What else do u have to downgrade about laxus come on now give me more

 

[Luca Blight]

It surprises me that people still debate powerlevels with so much passion. I find Fairy Tail's powerleveling so screwed up, that it's impossible to reach a logical conclusion.

Thousands of opinions are simultaneously valid and invalid in near equal measures, because the manga is poorly-written and is full of contradictions. I can go ahead and claim that Lisanna or Elfman are each comparable to Erza, and it wouldn't be a terrible argument, since they clearly fared much better against Ajeel. (Most readers back then believed that without Convenience/PIS/CIS, it would require 3 Erza-level characters to defeat Ajeel fair and square) It can also be argued that at least in Attack Power, Cana is FAR above current Kagura. But I still retain the right to reject these claims by providing a different passage.

Larcade's durability feat is by a landslide above August. Either that, or current Kagura's best slash is well below Cana's basic cards in power due to Archenemy-nerfing. Which doesn't make sense either way, because she casually slashed a small hill with it "nerfed"

Cana' Fairy Glitter was hinted to deal significant damage on August if it wasn't for his hax, an argument that is backed by Cana's base cards hurting August.

What baffles me more than anything is when you powerscale characters without factoring in inflation and nonsensical jumps.

"Erza broke a meteorite! Therefore Laxus should too!"

That's not really so different from saying:

"Erza broke a meteorite! Therefore Ikaruga can too!"

As you all are aware, Ikaruga's Historia overpowered a much healthier Erza equipped with RedPants/Benizakura. When Azuma joined, it turned into a one-sided bullying. Having Kyouka join was an overkill. Wankers back then argued that "she was injured" but that is no longer a valid excuse when she can destroy a meteorite despite all of her bones being crushed. Although personally, I'm not that annoyed by Erza's meteorite feat simply because we already know how ridiculous Erza's endurance is, as well as the fact that she was enchanted by a high-enchanter. Keep in mind that the mass-produced Enchanted-Fodder summoned by Irene were wrecking Erza pretty bad.

I'm also in the opinion that Erza and Natsu can't really unlock their full potential until they get the living crap beaten out of them. So Erza handling a meteorite, or base Natsu destroying FH Zeref, does not inherently mean they can take anyone without any difficulty. It's because you have to actually damage them bad before they can pull such feats. In other words: it isn't really a case of "They did this DESPITE being injured" but one of "They did this BECAUSE they were injured" You see.. base Nastu somehow ended up much more impressive than DF Natsu against FH Zeref...

Don't misunderstand me. We can have fun and debate all we want. But there is no need to be so arrogant and condescending when someone presents a different point of view. It really rubs me the wrong way when someone projects their argument as the Obvious-Fact or the Final-Truth when the manga is infested with problems from head to toe, it speaks volumes of their ignorance and bias. It's like you're marketing a stinking piece of shit by decorating it and masking its smell in a way that suits your tastes, then expect the consumer to buy it without second thoughts.

You might as well found a school of science, based on a short story written by a 12 year old, for the 9 year old demographic.

 

[sharkai]

When did I say laxus>>>>>>>>>erza? When did I say laxus solo 10 spriggan at the same time? Ur assuming a low diff=oneshot that's a no diff genius. Laxus didnt low diff tempesta What else do u have to downgrade about laxus come on now give me more

Lol so basically connecting the dots

You know you keep on believing august silly hype right?
Where laxus can causally kill not one shot ajeel right.
Something he couldnt do to even raven tail members.

Your low low diff speaks volume.


And you also clearly said ajeel > erza.

 

[Seven777]

I am comparing natsu with laxus.
And everyine is trash and embarrassing compared to natsu after he defeated zeref with infinit power

Lol that guy ran once before from me after one reply after i pointed his point of irene might not know th power of springgans since she hasnt seen them use magic for a while. And in the same post he said mira said mira plus erza might not be able to jura.
He vanished after i pointed out mira has never seen jura do magic before that hype.

You couldn't find speed feat for laxus so you gave erza feats to laxus
In laxus vs natsu thread. Recently

Uhuh, and deciding to call it "embarrassing" instead of just "outclassed by Natsu" totally wasnt just a shot at Laxus, right? And how about you calling the guy "completely useless"?

That guy "ran away" from you did he? Conceited much? Ever considered the possibility that he was just busy at the time? Or that he didnt see your post? Or maybe just didnt want to read one of your long ass comments? Or he just got sick of crap like this. Those possibilities seem a lot more plausible than him just "running away cause your points were soooo amazing". And would it have killed you to wait at least a bloody day before calling him out for not replying? Oh, but of course the length of time isnt important, because all you really cared about was insulting him to belittle his argument, like you are trying to do in this very comment.

Who says Mira has never seen Jura use magic? You forgetting that unlike team Natsu, Mirajane and the rest of FT had 3 months training where plenty of things couldve happened. The fact that Mira decided to comment on Jura's power means we have to automatically assume that she knew how powerful Jura was, otherwise her explaining it to Gajeel wouldnt make sense.

Oh, you mean Laxus dodging nukes? Yeah, simple scaling. Its like Mirajane smashing Juliet and Hyne, has Erza done it? No, but she could, cause we can scale her. You can call that stealing feats if you like, but its simply power scaling.

 

[LaGOAT]

Lol so basically connecting the dots

You know you keep on believing august silly hype right?
Where laxus can causally kill not one shot ajeel right.
Something he couldnt do to even raven tail members.

Your low low diff speaks volume.


And you also clearly said ajeel > erza.

Connect what dots.?
Lol just how u believe Irene silly hype about the meteor

Lol so he didn't oneshot them all?? So what did he dothen plz elaborate?

Yep it does

Yes ajeel>erza canonally

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Hmm, I wonder.. The Spriggan 12 were overhyped, but they were by no means weak. And even though Current Natsu could take almost all of them out, I am interested how would he manage with his other forms.
Natsu(base) vs Spriggan 12 and Natsu(FDKM) vs Spriggan 12. Obviously, one on one, not natsu vs all of them at once.
Who would win?
(Flames of Savage Emotions is obviously restricted)

In my opinion, the most Base Natsu can beat are Neinhart, Jacob, Brandish, and Ajeel. FDKM Natsu should be able to beat all of them with the exception of August, Irene, and God Serena due to his elemental advantage. As for DF Natsu, I think every member of the Spriggan 12 would lose.

 

[**Silver**]

Laxus basically one-shotted wahl with his strongest move Red Lightning, and the spell was overpowered by the Power of Feelings towards Laxus deceaced ancestor Yuri Dreyar... so that was not easy victory or casual move

even hardcore Laxus fans accepts the fact August is still leagues above Laxus ...

 

[Demon Hunter]

In my opinion, the most Base Natsu can beat are Neinhart, Jacob, Brandish, and Ajeel. FDKM Natsu should be able to beat all of them with the exception of August, Irene, and God Serena due to his elemental advantage. As for DF Natsu, I think every member of the Spriggan 12 would lose.

Spoiler

enough said.

 

[Demon Hunter]

@**Salty** not a casual move but was necessary to beat Wall, because you know, he was completely immune to his powers.

if he wasn't then oh boy, Wall would have been beaten sooner unless Wall summoned Laxus' weakness which is Mirajane

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Spoiler

enough said.

Without Flames of Wild Emotions of course. PoF doesn't count in my book. But yes, I know you love to post that panel.