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[Jammiin]

Dude why is Ezel out Before Franmalth, Jackal and Cobra?

 

[Seraph]

I honestly think i am psychic now,another Prediction of mine came true?!

Well its easy once you grasped the Gist of it honestly,next bet would be either Cobra from the Oracion Seis or Jackal from Tartaros if its not either of them its probably gonna be either Ultear or Azuma from the 7 Kin of Purgatory.
Such a shame that the Demon Gates have to pack their Stuff so early but what can you do?

 

[Seven777]

Franmalth before Cobra? Second origin Natsu couldnt solo Franmalth yet people think fodder like Cobra can do shit to him? Ridiculous.

 

[Tirl]

Franmalth before Cobra? Second origin Natsu couldnt solo Franmalth yet people think fodder like Cobra can do shit to him? Ridiculous.

Natsu can't only bc Franmalth almost immune to magic. Everybody can oneshot him with single rock strike.
SO Natsu is just 2 times stronger than he was. 2*Natsu < Cobra in the past.

 

[Ebony Maw]

"My prayer... I just wanted to hear..."








"The voice of my one friend... Cubellious"

​

Only one prayer remains.








#15

Erik​

Affiliation: Oracion Seis
Magic: Poison Dragon Slayer Magic, Sound Magic
Score: 6.839

Highest Score: 10 x 1(@Zeref Spriggan)
Lowest Score: 2.5 x 1(@Jko)

My Score: 7.5/10

Like his fellow guild mates, Erik was a slave at the Tower of Heaven, being "rescued" by Brain and becoming a member of the Oracion Seis, having a Poison Dragon Slayer lacrima implanted into his body at some point prior to this.. One of the more easy going villains, now known as "Cobra", he was very confident in battle and enjoyed seeing his opponents suffer, much like his brothers and sisters in the Seis. This somewhat changed post-time-skip though, and he is easier to anger. Being a 2nd Generation Dragon Slayer, Erik wields the element of poison, which makes his close combat skills much deadlier, as a single hit can make limbs go numb. Although we never see this, Cobra goes as far to say that the poison will eventually kill the victim. Cobra augments this lethal mix of skills by using Sound magic, utilizing the ability to listen to his opponent's thoughts in combat. When used in conjunction with his Poison Dragon Slaying magic, this is a deadly technique.​

 

[Xaos sama]

at least he's a better character than those srubs of tartaros (except for silver, of course)

 

[Ebony Maw]

at least he's a better character than those srubs of tartaros (except for silver, of course)

What about my boi Keyes?

Tbh I agree with you though, the Oracion Seis had awesome characterization, and their development has been great too.

 

[Seraph]

Another Prediction of mine came true?

I don't know what to say,i actually expected Cobra to be eliminated quite soon despite the High Rating i gave him(It's a biased Rating i like Cobra Guys.)
Considering how Fodderized he became both in the Current Storyline and the one from Pre TS he really could never been called a Monster of sorts,but IMO he was the Strongest Oracion Seis Member right after Zero probably.
Anyway next Bet is on either Jackal,Ultear or Azuma.
Let's see if my Luck finally runs out.

 

[Arjuna]

Well finally Erik gone.

Now i feel either Macbeth or a wild card like Tempesta or Torafuza.

 

[Ebony Maw]

"Humans are not capable..."








"Of besting demons like us!"

​

- Jackal, just before he was bested. By a human.








#14

Jackal​

Affiliation: Tartaros
Curse: Bomb Curse
Score: 6.929

Highest Score: 8.5 x 1(@BluePegasus)
Lowest Score: 5.5 x 1(@Costanza)

My Score: 7/10

A member of the Tartaros guild, Jackal is an Etherious who sent ripples throughout the magic world when he annihilated the Magic Council in X791. A particularly cruel and sadistic character, Jackal likes to play with his victims before killing them and will sometimes cause collateral damage for no reason at all other than to hurt more people with his Bomb curse. This curse, as the name implies, gives Jackal the ability to cause explosions of varying size and power. He has used this to create general explosions, mines and even explosive bubbles which he can trap people in. He can also use these explosions in a defensive manner by using the blasts to tear spells apart before they hit him. Another powerful factor of this curse is that if someone hits Jackal, it will plant a bomb on them, so if an opponent hits Jackal numerous times, they will have dozens of bombs on them. When Jackal enters his Etherious form this curse grows even more powerful, with Jackal being able to make his hands glow orange as he's about to hit the enemy, which will then release a powerful explosion upon contact.​

 

[Arjuna]

Another 9 DG

Well i don't know what to say anymore

 

[Seraph]

@MLG Bradman proving another one of my Predictions to be true?How kind.
I saw it coming honestly it had to be Jackal or one of the 7 Kin at this Point IMO.
Let's see if this comes true as well,my next bet would be either Ultear or Azuma,but not sure why but i can also see Kyouka here for some reason its a Feeling i'd say.
Looking forward to the Next Elimination,but tbh i thought that Jackal would fare better at first considering how he gave Natsu a run for his Money at first and in FT that's actually something to be proud off as we all know and Love/Hate.

 

[Jko]

Franmelth, Jackal, and Ezel >>>>>> Cobra and Midnight. Cobra himself knew not fudge with the Tartarus.

This is a sham.

@Xaos sama
Physical attacks that looked like that.

Spoiler

It was stated at the end of the filler they lost all their filler powers.

 

[Tirl]

Another 9 DG

Well i don't know what to say anymore

May I ask you? Why you think 9G should be stronger than OS and GH? Only bc they were after them?
Yes, some demons are really strong. Mard, Seilah, Silver, Kyoka. But others? I don't think so. They never show any impressive power.
Franmalth just immune to magic a little but can be oneshotted by casual non magic\human strike. Shot him with small rock and he will be done.
Keis was killed by water blow, As fighter he is cool, but his actual lvl... no, he is not a strong character.
Ezel. Physically strong enough to fight Gajeel or same mages, has high speed and penetration damage. Ezel is cool. But is he stronger than Azuma, Bluenote? I don't think so. Is he stronger than Cobra was in past? Maybe, but no so much. Is he stronger than Cobra in their arc? No. He was defeated by Wendy's attack (really strong attack, but this is still Wendy). Don't forget, FT's main party didn't up too many times, they are just got SO which means they become 2 times stronger.
Torafusa has no feats except his underworld. His attack power not so good, his defense without his curse water also not so good. He is just mid tier fighter. He stronger than more of OS and GH, but he is just physical fighter. What can he do against Rose, Ultear or Midnight?
Jacal has high "bomb" power. I think his lvl around Jura's in 7 year past. He really dangerous fighter bc of his curse and attack, but he is not so strong as himself. I mean Azuma, Cobra or also somebody without their attack magic still strong enough to defeat more fairies.
Tempesta is the same as Jacal. He has same feats. And both of them were trash against Natsu. They didn't make a single punch on him (maybe 1 or 2, I don't remember full fight with Jacal).

All what I say is most of Tartaros were much less trouble for FT than OS and GH.
Mard, Seilah and Silver are stronger than most of OS\GH, but comparing others demons to them they more weaker, than low tier members of OS\GH weaker than strongest. (Hope I correctly write this)

And also, really many people think Tartaros stronger than OS ans GH only bc they were later? Avatar were later, so?

 

[Jko]

@Tirl
Tartarus Natsu >>>>>>>>> Tenrou Natsu >>> OS Natsu.

OS is the weakest because they got beat by the weakest versions of FT. It's as simple as that. They would get whooped by Tartarus and GH because they were on the same level of a much stronger version of the guild. Midnight wasn't even close to Erza's level yet Azuma was able to keep up with her and overpower her. Zancrow was able to fight Tenrou Natsu and overpower him and Franmelth was able to overpower Tartarus LFD Natsu, and he had Hades soul and magic.

There's a clear difference in power. Tartarus should not lose out to OS. They were fodder to Tartarus.

 

[Jammiin]

Lol even Mashima "said" Jackal and Franmalth were Low tier, but Ezel was at least mid tier... I hate you people

 

[Tirl]

Tartarus Natsu >>>>>>>>> Tenrou Natsu >>> OS Natsu.

Tartarus Natsu = 2*Tenrou Natsu
Tenrou Natsu = 1,5* OS Natsu.

There is no >>>>>>>>
Natsu didn't trained so much before Tenrou and before Tartaros.

 

[Jko]

Tartarus Natsu = 2*Tenrou Natsu
Tenrou Natsu = 1,5* OS Natsu.

There is no >>>>>>>>
Natsu didn't trained so much before Tenrou and before Tartaros.

Tartarus Natsu is more than just times 2 of his previous self. He was hundred times stronger than his previous self. He could casually use LFD without it exhausting himself in one attack. He also could use DF by just sheer willpower and was capable of beating two DS in Dragons Force without even having to utilize his full power in Base mode.

Tenrou Natsu was already double to triple of the power of OS Natsu. He was able to match a 7kin and 7kin lackeys whooped up Gajeel. He was also capable of lifting and 80+ ton Dragon (with barely any magic) off of him in the Edolas arc.

Yea he did. He was training a lot before the S class exams. It was stated this in the manga.

Tartarus Natsu >>>>>>>>>> Tenrou Natsu >>> OS Natsu.

 

[Tirl]

Tartarus Natsu is more than just times 2 of his previous self. He was hundred times stronger than his previous self. He could casually use LFD without it exhausting himself in one attack. He also could use DF by just sheer willpower and was capable of beating two DS in Dragons Force without even having to utilize his full power in Base mode.

Tenrou Natsu was already double to triple of the power of OS Natsu. He was able to match a 7kin and 7kin lackeys whooped up Gajeel. He was also capable of lifting and 80+ ton Dragon (with barely any magic) off of him in the Edolas arc.

Yea he did. He was training a lot before the S class exams. It was stated this in the manga.

Tartarus Natsu >>>>>>>>>> Tenrou Natsu >>> OS Natsu.

What is using LFD so impressive? It's just mode with some more consuming MP. Maybe 2times stronger than base. Where it stated that he cant used it longer before Tartaros arc?
He foddered twin dragons bc they are too weak comparing with Natsu or Gajeel.
Where you found it that Natsu 100 times stronger? It's a bullshit I ever hear. If Natsu was 100 times stronger, then Mard must be million times stronger and August is over infinity. Natsu just got second origin. Second origin is second origin. So it is 1 plus 1. Maybe plus 5% from short training.

-He also could use DF
DF is just mode with more consuming MP. There is nothing impressive to use it on his own if it's nothing to do for opponent.
Etherion DF > Jellal DF > Tartaros DF.

-He was able to match a 7kin and 7kin lackeys whooped up Gajeel.
Zancrow foddered Natsu like nothing.
And doggy with his sword can slice Natsu instantly. Not in hell that doggy weaker than Zoldeo or Kein or even Meredy. They just look stupid, that's all.
Gajeel defeated two strong fighter when Natsu was trashed by Zancrow, and defeated just Kein, who not a fighter after all.

-Yea he did. He was training a lot before the S class exams. It was stated this in the manga.
Natsu didn't trained so much before Tenrou and before Tartaros.
Read, please, correct.

 

[Jko]

What is using LFD so impressive? It's just mode with some more consuming MP. Maybe 2times stronger than base. Where it stated that he cant used it longer before Tartaros arc?
He foddered twin dragons bc they are too weak comparing with Natsu or Gajeel.
Where you found it that Natsu 100 times stronger? It's a bullshit I ever hear. If Natsu was 100 times stronger, then Mard must be million times stronger and August is over infinity. Natsu just got second origin. Second origin is second origin. So it is 1 plus 1. Maybe plus 5% from short training.

LFD made Natsu OP bro. It was his strongest form besides DF and the form had heavy magical consumption.

The Twins were stronger than Tenrou Gajeel and Tenrou Natsu.

No Natsu was indeed a hundred times stronger than his previous self as he beat two people above his previous self's power with only using a fraction of his. Second Origin unlocks latent potential which exponentialy increase stats and MP.

-He also could use DF
DF is just mode with more consuming MP. There is nothing impressive to use it on his own if it's nothing to do for opponent.
Etherion DF > Jellal DF > Tartaros DF.

Lmao. DF increases DS' powers by triple their maximum. And what is wrong with your scaling??? Tartarus DF Natsu would curb OS DF Natsu and ToH DF Natsu at the same time. Tartarus DF >>>>>>>>>> OS DF Natsu >>> ToH DF Natsu. Tartarus DF Natsu overpowered Mard Geer. Mard Geer would rekt any previous version of Natsu and any of his opponents.

-He was able to match a 7kin and 7kin lackeys whooped up Gajeel.
Zancrow foddered Natsu like nothing.
And doggy with his sword can slice Natsu instantly. Not in hell that doggy weaker than Zoldeo or Kein or even Meredy. They just look stupid, that's all.
Gajeel defeated two strong fighter when Natsu was trashed by Zancrow, and defeated just Kein, who not a fighter after all.

Zancrow didn't fodder Natsu. He had an advantage because Natsu couldn't eat his flames while he could eat Natsu's.

They were weaker than Meredy, Kain, and Zoldeo.

Those two lackeys were fodder. They even said they were fodder to the 7kin so no Gajeel didn't high diff two strong opponents as they were fodder in that guild.

-Yea he did. He was training a lot before the S class exams. It was stated this in the manga.
Natsu didn't trained so much before Tenrou and before Tartaros.
Read, please, correct.

Yes you said he didn't train that much which I countered that he did.