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The question is who do u consider a low tier dragon? 2. I said we don't know if he did all we know that he slays dragons
Me? The nameless fodders that Acno killed. The Alvarez army has top dogs like spriggans/zeref and a million fodders that follow them. The dragons are probably the same. There are top tiers like Igneel, Belserion and the Parent Dragons, and then there are the fodders that got themselves killed by Eileen's Dragon Slayer army.
 

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Acnologia was the strongest in all FT universe. I don't get the whole argument tbh. Fodder dragon or Top tier dragon, He still managed to beat them all and be the king.
 

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You didn't get my first point.

I told Cobra surviving a physical hit from is impressive but not as impressive as killing four Dragons.Acnologia used actual attacks against the Dragons not physical attacks.You can even see smoke rising from those Dragon's bodies.

You are making it like Acnologia used 4-5 kicks on those Dragons and they died while Cobra survived the same which is obviously not the case.

And tanking the attacks mean taking an attack without even a single damage.Erik mentions he felt immense pain which is not tanking acc. to strict definition.


Secondly,Acnologia did use those Dragons as crystals isn't it?Moreover he was talking about real Dragons in that context.

Thirdly,If you look at the corpses of those Dragons in Irene's flashback you will see they all have similar injuries as Animus and Zirconia had.And when Igneel and others lost their souls they had enough time to survive unlike those Dragons who were immediately killed.

I never called Cobra a low-tier dragon, so I don't get the comparison.

Human Acnologia didn't beat Zirconis-tier dragons and Animus because he is strong. He beat them because they were low-tier, just like him. If Cobra could tank a hit from Human Acnologia, then there's no way he is a top-tier dragon.



Well then, our definitions of "tanking" are different.

You can still "tank" something and take damage. As long as the person survived the attack, it's tanking in my book.



Acnologia did not keep them as crystal pillars throughout their entire fight. If his goal was just to turn them into crystals, he could have done that from the very start. He intended to slay all the DS.

And no, Acnologia was not referring to real dragons... there were no "real" dragons left by the last few chapters of the manga...

Why would he say something like that when there are none left in existence?

He was obviously referring to the 7 Dragon Slayers in front of him. He used the term "dragon" because each of them possessed the power of a dragon and could possibly turn into a dragon one day.




Again, corpses and injuries don't tell us anything about whether a dragon had his/her soul absorbed. There is no way of knowing just by the physical appearance alone. It's very possible that Acnologia absorbed the souls of the dragons he killed in the past.
 

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Acnologia is 400+ trigger dragon , FT manga had lazy fights and nonsense. FT verse can beat Naruto , One Piece and DBS. I know is crazy but it is true because in FT verse had potential that can surpass big 3. Let explain seriously , 12 spriggan was powerful empire and even bigger than four emperors. There are 12 mages who were around God Serena's lvl. Their magic made scare FT and Natsu too, Brandish had a magic that can wipe out an island , Dimaria magic is time. Time magic is dangerous because it can wrap it to slow down or pause world's time. We haven't seen Dimaria full power if it was she could wipe out the world.God Serena was the most powerful wizard saint , he had 8 dragon slaying magic ,remember DS magic is made to kill dragons. His magic had more than two slaying magic in which can hurt an enemy. God Serena wasn't using dragon scales of DS from 2nd generation when he fought four gods of Ishgar. Irene was the creator of DS magic , she summoned a meteor from space that can destroy a continent , weather maniputlation , enchantement magic ,possession magic and her own DS slaying and also she 400+ or slightly older than Acnologia. August was the general of 12 spriggan and strongest mage of the group , he had knowledge of magic and mastered most of them. I would surprised if August learnt quicly FKD spell and he can copy any magic, He can even do Hakai easly , use Jiren's technique , do kamehameha hahahahah.
 

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How powerful are the dragons he killed though? I doubt all dragons are top tiers or even middle tiers. Lamy is a demon, would anybody be impressed by Gray slaying a few thousand Lamy's? Besides, they were fighting each other while they were fighting Acnologia.
Animus in dragon cry almost killed Natsu
 

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How powerful are the dragons he killed though? I doubt all dragons are top tiers or even middle tiers. Lamy is a demon, would anybody be impressed by Gray slaying a few thousand Lamy's? Besides, they were fighting each other while they were fighting Acnologia.
they are all weak af.

Animus and the other 3 or four dragons got soloed by pre skip human Acnologia.
 

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Acnologia is 400+ trigger dragon , FT manga had lazy fights and nonsense. FT verse can beat Naruto , One Piece and DBS. I know is crazy but it is true because in FT verse had potential that can surpass big 3. Let explain seriously , 12 spriggan was powerful empire and even bigger than four emperors. There are 12 mages who were around God Serena's lvl. Their magic made scare FT and Natsu too, Brandish had a magic that can wipe out an island , Dimaria magic is time. Time magic is dangerous because it can wrap it to slow down or pause world's time. We haven't seen Dimaria full power if it was she could wipe out the world.God Serena was the most powerful wizard saint , he had 8 dragon slaying magic ,remember DS magic is made to kill dragons. His magic had more than two slaying magic in which can hurt an enemy. God Serena wasn't using dragon scales of DS from 2nd generation when he fought four gods of Ishgar. Irene was the creator of DS magic , she summoned a meteor from space that can destroy a continent , weather maniputlation , enchantement magic ,possession magic and her own DS slaying and also she 400+ or slightly older than Acnologia. August was the general of 12 spriggan and strongest mage of the group , he had knowledge of magic and mastered most of them. I would surprised if August learnt quicly FKD spell and he can copy any magic, He can even do Hakai easly , use Jiren's technique , do kamehameha hahahahah.

Don't get me wrong, I completely respect your opinion, but I just happen to look at it from a different perspective.

In my opinion, the Spriggans showed zero potential in the last arc. They were purely based on hype, which is fine for the "prelude to war", but that flaw eventually became ridiculous later on in the arc.

Team Natsu being "scared" of their magic power just serves as a good initial hype tool, but it was eventually shot down when the other Spriggans underperformed in battle.

Once Natsu became serious, he was easily able to turn the tables around on people the likes of Brandish, Dimaria, Jacob, and Neinhart.

The same goes for other Ishgarian characters like Gildartz and Gray.



The only Spriggan who I believed actually lived up to his hype was August. He fought directly on par with Gildartz, who was arguably Ishgar's strongest wizard. I admit, that's definitely worthy of praise, even for the "General of the Spriggan 12".

Some of the other Spriggans also had decent or acceptable feats, but it was nothing extraordinary as we were led on to believe initially.

Overall, the amount of wasted potential was far past what I would call "the limit".

Acnologia and Zeref were indicative of that, especially since their downfall did not match their given circumstances.
 

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Animus in dragon cry almost killed Natsu
Lol what happened anyways? Natsu seemed fine then all of a sudden he's impaled.
 

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Animus in dragon cry almost killed Natsu
Is that supposed to be impressive? It wasnt savage emotions Natsu, or even FDKM Natsu and when Natsu went into that weird dragon form he practically fodderized full-power Animus. And lets not forget that he was crapping his pants at the prospect of facing END. Zeref=IgNatsu>=END>weird dragon Natsu>full power Animus>regular Animus>Natsu that got impaled. Eileen would probably make mince meat of Animus.
Besides, if a weakling like Animus was supposedly one of the better dragons, imagine how weak the average Joe dragon is.
 

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Is that supposed to be impressive? It wasnt savage emotions Natsu, or even FDKM Natsu and when Natsu went into that weird dragon form he practically fodderized full-power Animus. And lets not forget that he was crapping his pants at the prospect of facing END. Zeref=IgNatsu>=END>weird dragon Natsu>full power Animus>regular Animus>Natsu that got impaled. Eileen would probably make mince meat of Animus.
Besides, if a weakling like Animus was supposedly one of the better dragons, imagine how weak the average Joe dragon is.
Well that form of END or half dragonized natsu was just that strong, I think he would have fodderized any of the ishgar mage like gildarts or gray. Gray was lucky he didn't faced that version of natsu.
 

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So has Dragon Cry been confirmed as canon? And if so, is there a reason why Natsu can dragonize and also just turn it off too? I bet Eileen would've paid big money to know how Natsu did it.
Well that form of END or half dragonized natsu was just that strong, I think he would have fodderized any of the ishgar mage like gildarts or gray. Gray was lucky he didn't faced that version of natsu.
Nah, in a fight i'd bet on the real END, over whatever that was in dragon cry any day.
 

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Well that form of END or half dragonized natsu was just that strong, I think he would have fodderized any of the ishgar mage like gildarts or gray. Gray was lucky he didn't faced that version of natsu.
this is lost case Natsu with savage emotions beats even Goku....
 

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So has Dragon Cry been confirmed as canon? And if so, is there a reason why Natsu can dragonize and also just turn it off too? I bet Eileen would've paid big money to know how Natsu did it.

Nah, in a fight i'd bet on the real END, over whatever that was in dragon cry any day.
I won't go into the debate about which is stronger but regarding it's Canonicity


Yeah it's canon.Hiro himself said as he couldn't put Acnologia's back story in the Manga he put it in the film.


Add to that Sonya was shown in the Manga too.
 

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Is that supposed to be impressive? It wasnt savage emotions Natsu, or even FDKM Natsu and when Natsu went into that weird dragon form he practically fodderized full-power Animus. And lets not forget that he was crapping his pants at the prospect of facing END. Zeref=IgNatsu>=END>weird dragon Natsu>full power Animus>regular Animus>Natsu that got impaled. Eileen would probably make mince meat of Animus.
Besides, if a weakling like Animus was supposedly one of the better dragons, imagine how weak the average Joe dragon is.
It would mean Animus is stronger than Motherglare and the GmG dragons. Natsu would have at least been stronger than several Spriggans. Acnologia didn't just beat Animus. He beat him, and then some. Igneel > Igneel-powered Natsu, and Acnologia killed him too. Acnologia should be above Zeref at the very least, simply by Zeref's admission that there was no way he could have taken him without FH
 

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It would mean Animus is stronger than Motherglare and the GmG dragons. Natsu would have at least been stronger than several Spriggans. Acnologia didn't just beat Animus. He beat him, and then some. Igneel > Igneel-powered Natsu, and Acnologia killed him too. Acnologia should be above Zeref at the very least, simply by Zeref's admission that there was no way he could have taken him without FH
I dont see how Animus is stronger than GMG dragons or Motherglare, Motherglare lost to Atlas Flame+AF Natsu, the other dragons didnt take any damage. In fact, F.Rogue, the guy who suffered under Acnologia for yearrs, was confident that the GMG dragons alone could beat Acnologia.
And correct me if im mistaken, but Animus only impaled base Natsu, right? I dont even remember seeing any FDK moves, let alone FDK mode. FDKMNatsu>several spriggans, but base Natsu? Weaker than Jacob imo.
Acnologia beat half dead Igneel, and only just barely.
Sure, Acnologia is way stronger than Zeref.
 

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I dont see how Animus is stronger than GMG dragons or Motherglare, Motherglare lost to Atlas Flame+AF Natsu, the other dragons didnt take any damage. In fact, F.Rogue, the guy who suffered under Acnologia for yearrs, was confident that the GMG dragons alone could beat Acnologia.
And correct me if im mistaken, but Animus only impaled base Natsu, right? I dont even remember seeing any FDK moves, let alone FDK mode. FDKMNatsu>several spriggans, but base Natsu? Weaker than Jacob imo.
Acnologia beat half dead Igneel, and only just barely.
Sure, Acnologia is way stronger than Zeref.
The GMG dragons didn't do anywhere near the same damage to the dragon slayers they were fighting that Animus did to Natsu, and Natsu is stronger. Base Natsu would have still been stronger than most Spriggans, considering what Natsu was able to do against Neinhart and Zeref. Probably could have taken out Jacob over time, even if he couldn't do it in one hit like FDK mode. There shouldn't be a massive difference in durability between base and FDK mode anyways.

No matter how weak you think losing his soul made Igneel, Igneel at any point in the story would have still been stronger than Igneel-powered Natsu. Natsu was using Igneel's leftover power after he died from his fight with Acnologia. Theoretically Igneel may have been stronger with his soul, but this version of Igneel isn't any version we've ever seen. Nor are there other named dragons that can match this theoretical version of Igneel. The strongest dragon we've seen in canon are Igneel and Acnologia. Effectively, they are the top tiered dragons for this story.
 
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The GMG dragons didn't do anywhere near the same damage to the dragon slayers they were fighting that Animus did to Natsu, and Natsu is stronger. Base Natsu would have still been stronger than most Spriggans, considering what Natsu was able to do against Neinhart and Zeref. Probably could have taken out Jacob over time, even if he couldn't do it in one hit like FDK mode. There shouldn't be a massive difference in durability between base and FDK mode anyways.

No matter how weak you think losing his soul made Igneel, Igneel at any point in the story would have still been stronger than Igneel-powered Natsu. Natsu was using Igneel's leftover power after he died from his fight with Acnologia. Theoretically Igneel may have been stronger with his soul, but this version of Igneel isn't any version we've ever seen. Nor are there other named dragons that can match this theoretical version of Igneel. The strongest dragon we've seen in canon are Igneel and Acnologia. Effectively, they are the top tiered dragons for this story.
GMG dragons also didnt deal anywhere near the damage Jura, Gajeel or even Juvia had dealt to GMG wizards. Animus was seriously fighting Natsu with everything he had, Zirconis and the rest were screwing around, literally laughing at everyones attempts to harm them.
I supposed it would depend on which spriggans. Jacob and Ajeel were able to laugh off an attack that beat Neinhart and i dont consider either particularly powerful.

I dont remember ever saying Ignatsu was on or even comparable to half dead Igneel's level. All i said was Ignatsu>dragon cry Natsu.
I also dont remember saying Acnologia wasnt a top tier dragon. I've said full power Igneel should be stronger than Acnologia given that with only a little of his power left he was able to push Acnologia to extreme diff, but i never said Acnologia wasnt top tier. I simply find it a lot more believable that the 7 GMG dragons would be able to take him down now that ive seen the incredibly disappointing limits of his power.
 

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I think the gap between Dragons in GMG and Acno is huge. An I think it was summarily closed during the training year. Jellal managed to perform just as impressively against Acno as Irene did. Which does nothing but add credence to the idea that Zeref expected either Jellal or Laxus to be the ones who reached him as he waited behind his entire army and assembled Spriggans. Laxus managed to blitz and land a blow on an extremely enhanced Acno. With the others managing to survive the fight as well. This is after all 7 have been involved in a war. I think the average Dragon is as impressive as we were led to believe and that the new generation has subsequently grown that much since the Games.
 

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I think the gap between Dragons in GMG and Acno is huge. An I think it was summarily closed during the training year. Jellal managed to perform just as impressively against Acno as Irene did. Which does nothing but add credence to the idea that Zeref expected either Jellal or Laxus to be the ones who reached him as he waited behind his entire army and assembled Spriggans. Laxus managed to blitz and land a blow on an extremely enhanced Acno. With the others managing to survive the fight as well. This is after all 7 have been involved in a war. I think the average Dragon is as impressive as we were led to believe and that the new generation has subsequently grown that much since the Games.
Laxus never blitzed Acno or landed a hit against him. Acno was just toying with the dragon slayers the whole time and was completely immune to their attacks so landing a hit against a guy who isn't even trying to avoid getting hit isn't that impressive. The others managed to survive because Acno needed them to reunite with his body and couldn't kill them so surviving against someone not trying to kill you and toying with you is an overrated feat.
 

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I think the gap between Dragons in GMG and Acno is huge. An I think it was summarily closed during the training year. Jellal managed to perform just as impressively against Acno as Irene did. Which does nothing but add credence to the idea that Zeref expected either Jellal or Laxus to be the ones who reached him as he waited behind his entire army and assembled Spriggans. Laxus managed to blitz and land a blow on an extremely enhanced Acno. With the others managing to survive the fight as well. This is after all 7 have been involved in a war. I think the average Dragon is as impressive as we were led to believe and that the new generation has subsequently grown that much since the Games.
Like what Invel said ^ Laxus caught Acnologia off guard when he was thrashing Gajeel and Wendy.Laxus sneaked up from the behind and attacked unaware Acnologia,though it didn't affect him.Laxus couldn't make any frontal attacks on fully aware Acnologia.
 
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