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I've been thinking this for a while and I still dont get it really.There’s some cryptic double-meanings in the special rules, I‘ll give you that. I never unlocked any effects to know what it‘s like, but I don‘t think you can be notified at night about the role and that‘s how I understand the rules.
I or lawl could try protecting you I suppose while you protect both of us and Monkey blocks someone else, but then someone else will probably die to Janitor while you‘re not blocked eh? It‘s something to consider, but Monkey may block you again making the attempt pointless.
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Before troubles arise, me -> G, obviouslyIf there’s no doctor that could have killed me, go ahead, kill me.
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You were here but left so I thought you gave up. That's good to hear, faito dayo I suppose. Which janitor kills am I ignoring exactly?I fight and win, fight and lose but I don't just quit.
Also, out of all the turnabouts we've had so far, this is actually the least problematic one.
Seriously, the rules don't disprove my claim at all and you're conveniently ignoring the janitor kills because why not.
Of course he didn't say "PANDA IS LYING GUYS" but that's my understanding on the rules, especially once he explained it further. I don't see how you'd be notified of a tarot effect during the night. But if both you and Lambo had it then maybe it really is a thing(unless you both slipped up independently lol).I don’t get it, there’s seriously no problem with my claim. Host didn’t say I was lying, host simply paraphrased his own rules incorrectly or didn't follow his own rules to the letter. I submit my night action, get result back, get informed of my effect, new day begins.
1. It would at best prove I’m a townie, at worst that you’re too stubborn to consider dead player roles
2. That’s pretty interesting, but if he’s gonna die anyway, the credibility of anything concerning him evaporates. If my goal was escaping, I’d have picked something else than spy altogether. If my goal was confusion, I’d have used another name than Arjun. But since my goal was honesty, I simply told you what I found out
3. No, you didn’t give a reason. You assumed what she said was so farfetcheda (get it? farfalla, far fetched?), that she must be speaking truth.
At the very least, I insist the janitor is killed before I am. If there’s no doctor that could have killed me, go ahead, kill me.
Talk about farfetched(and ye I get it, thought about that pun years ago).Come now, are you really gonna entertain the idea of me not being pro-town after all this time? We have Magi's results too(there's the thing with Arjun's reveal though lmao).On one hand, it’s hard to believe that Arjun is anything else but mafia
On the other hand, no reason Gry can’t be mafia with him at this point.
Keep in mind, Gry and Farf both supported the miller theory, so if you think about it, we only killed Brandish for sure.
Usually your death would not prove him to be lying in any way, even if you show as a doc. After all, all he did was block his suspect. But since no kills happened last night one of the two of you must be lying because we have no other blockers.I've been thinking this for a while and I still dont get it really.
Why would Monkey lie telling he targetted me? that would be like sacrificing himself since the moment I die you guys lynch him so it wouldn't be a smart mafia move at all.
The only way I can see Monkey telling the truth about his night action is that he was blocked by the mafia somehow, like a mafia tarot card or the action of a mafia escort but damn, its very twisted.
Did everyone reveal their tarot cards? I mean everyone.
I have to make a reread of all posts, there has to be a hint somewhere.
So you're not blocking him? Then maybe we should a bodyguard protect Lambu while he protects both me and lawl? How about it @goodboy_lawlett can you protect Lambu this night while I go for someone else? He has no excuse if he lets either of us two die with his "double protection powers".I did block Lambu yesterday, but lets keep that for the next day. As for this night, I will block someone else other than Lambu.
Now, votekill Arjun
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Eh, I wish this confirmed anything. Unfortunately the "in some cases" at the end is all folks like @TSPanda and @Lambu need to hold onto to make their arguments...To clarify once and for all, you're notified of a Tarot Effect's activation at the next end of a Day Phase. That means, for example:
- You fulfill an Effect's requirements during Day One - you're notified at the end of D1;
- You fulfill an Effect's requirements during Night One - you're notified at the end of D2;
- You fulfill an Effect's requirements during Day Two - you're notified at the end of D2;
- You fulfill an Effect's requirements at the very end of Day Two - you're notified at the end of D2;
and so on.
While this is true for the majority of Tarot Effects, in some cases you can be notified at the next start of a Day Phase instead (or at the next end of Night, whatever name you prefer for the same moment).
That some case might just apply to roles that actually get answers back to the stuff they send in? Like, the difference between your actions and mine, for example, is that you don't know anything while I get result back from the host.
@bolded part: How do you know?? We have just one doctor claim, and that's coming from the alleged janitorYou were here but left so I thought you gave up. That's good to hear, faito dayo I suppose. Which janitor kills am I ignoring exactly?
Of course he didn't say "PANDA IS LYING GUYS" but that's my understanding on the rules, especially once he explained it further. I don't see how you'd be notified of a tarot effect during the night. But if both you and Lambo had it then maybe it really is a thing(unless you both slipped up independently lol).
There is still no other explanation for gnut's death than him targeting you Panda. No doc ever touched him.
Oh I think now I get what you said about janitor kills. Please how unlikely is it for Daws to have been an insane doc, to have won a coin toss against mafia to be able to kill greg, and then beat greg in a cointoss to kill him before he recruits youTalk about farfetched(and ye I get it, thought about that pun years ago).
Her behaviour is a non-factor, and the Mason claim happened on day 2.I gave plenty of reasons from her behavior and general likelihoods to very risky Mason claim. When we are out of suspects I will gladly lynch her and anything posing as a Mason, but so far there's just far too little reason to mistrust her. Whereas you have the gnut thing dooming you.
Yeah, doctor claim, baseless accusations and ofc monkey block.Who is the "Janitor"? You mean Lambu? Sure it could be him, his doc results are convenient targets and he has the same rule issue like you. I still don't know how any of this ties together.
... Well, I guess not. I don't believe that you're mafia, but it's easier to believe than that you're just ignoring things so you can make a case against me.Come now, are you really gonna entertain the idea of me not being pro-town after all this time? We have Magi's results too(there's the thing with Arjun's reveal though lmao).
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btw how very convinient of youOh
This time, i will tell you everything about my night investigations once i everyone tells about their night actions.
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So what did it do?Oh? How funny, yesterday I forgot to vote and today I got an Upright Effect.
I doubt that it has something to do with such a thing though.
It said that my desire to connect with everyone led me to unlock the effect (whatever it may be) of my Tarot.
At the moment, I can't really tell..So what did it do?