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Your doing both.@Jammin I am not defending Hardy. I am criticizing Gry's playstyle.
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Because you are not the centre of the world. I found Arjuna and Demon the most suspicious, so I investigated them. Pretty sure I mentioned those several times.Say Hardy, why didn't you investigate me night 2 and go with demon instead
Dude are you even reading the game? Why would Zasz, as a mafia, kill himself like that, framing me? Same with Gry. I keep insisting I see Zasz's claim legit.Your doing both.
But for the sake of the argument why shouldn't we lynch Hardy to find out of Zasz is telling the truth? If you want me to not to send my kill vote his way your going to have to give me a convincing reason not to.
The way I currently see it lynching Hardy clears all this up one way or the other. If he's innocent. We will honor his sacrifice by marching Zasz up there next and potentially GrySun right after him. If he's guilty that means Zasz is legit. GrySun is probably also legit and your probably not. Either way we're getting a lot of information on who's who and what's what.
lol nice attitutde. I'm saying all this because your reasoning is completely counterproductive. You had innocent on Arjun and knew he was mafia. Shouldn't your next target be someone you don't suspect? Getting more innocent results would mean nothing as long as you don't find out if you're naive or insane. So actively picking someone you suspect, which could lead to another innocent result.. Is that really the play to be making?Because you are not the centre of the world. I found Arjuna and Demon the most suspicious, so I investigated them. Pretty sure I mentioned those several times.
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He's weird and I don't trust him at all. As simple as that.Why Demon?
I mean you never know in this game so I wanted to get as many interesting results as I could. Wasn't planning on getting savaged this day.lol nice attitutde. I'm saying all this because your reasoning is completely counterproductive. You had innocent on Arjun and knew he was mafia. Shouldn't your next target be someone you don't suspect? Getting more innocent results would mean nothing as long as you don't find out if you're naive or insane. So actively picking someone you suspect, which could lead to another innocent result.. Is that really the play to be making?
I believe we were aiming to save Zasz from dying that way."Besides the MASSIVE 4 PENALTIES".
I'm jumping to defend him because he is our detective and he evidently has a useful sanity, LOL, what kind of question is that.
Was checking for the clue, found it I think. There wasn't much else to see either, agreed, why so quiet and pressuring the detective?
So you just played along with spy in order to avoid getting killed...First, I never claimed being a spy.
I wanted people to think that, so that I wouldn't be targeted as a detective.
But of course, with my role revealed, I'll probably be killed on Night 3 or the next one.
This is my explanation.
Actually no, scratch that; this is the truth.

'-'What do the masons have to do with Zasz's claim this guy makes no sense.............
I am not against lynching Hardy though. That's what I would prefer as well, he claims I am Mafia anyway. But I can't vote.Your doing both.
But for the sake of the argument why shouldn't we lynch Hardy to find out of Zasz is telling the truth? If you want me to not to send my kill vote his way your going to have to give me a convincing reason not to.
The way I currently see it lynching Hardy clears all this up one way or the other. If he's innocent. We will honor his sacrifice by marching Zasz up there next and potentially GrySun right after him. If he's guilty that means Zasz is legit. GrySun is probably also legit and your probably not. Either way we're getting a lot of information on who's who and what's what.
Well here's the list Vandred made, on the top bolded are his more suspicious players on the bottom the other players. Assuming he died while trying to recruit someone its likely someone he trusted a lot and was convinced it's a townie (no idea who but I dont exclude James possibility ) . He obviously wouldnt try to recruit those he didnt trust.'-'
Because maybe Vandred died from trying to recruit a mafia...? And since he died at night 2, there should be another mason with him, that should be able to tell us who he tried to recruit....
And I mentioned the masons by Zasz because they are currently our only 2 leads on who to lynch.
Should I make everything this detailed for you to understand ?
Anyway, from the gathering of hints from yesterday, the people who seem to have been the most reticent and thus suspicious are, in my opinion, the following (in bold and moved to the top, list stolen from Erin and Faffs):
- GrySun - (Reiner) - the role keeps him safe at night
- Dried Ambrosia - (Gunther) - active role
- Demonspeed - (Marlowe) -> has an active role
- Belserion - (Sasha) - passive role, disappointed but might grow to like it
- Hardy - (Eren) - night action role
- EmptySoul - (Mike) -> said she has a boring role with no night action
- DiMaria Yesta - (Ymir) - passive and night
- Emperor Spriggan - (Krista) - passive, only activates under certain circumstances
- Farfalla - (Armin) - has an active night role
- Arjuna - (Rico) - can only vote during the day
- MarmaladeSky - (Eld) - active role, can be quite useful, fits her personality
- Erinyes - (Keith) - 1st time got the role, light side of the force
- Vandred - (Jean) - 1st time with the role, doesn't consider it powerful but that people prolly don't like it
- gnut - (Marco) - 2nd time he gets this role
- Jammin - (Petra) - swore on his waifu he's a townie, weird role that seemingly fits his character in a way.
- Kato756 - (Connie) - fits his character
- SonOfDaws - (Ian) - passive role that suits his playstyle
- James Rye - (Hange) -> said he's a townie, Night Action Doesn't really fit Hange's character
- Gryffindor - (Annie) - active, wasn't in the previous game
- MonkeyD-Dragon - (Oluo) - active night role (and some bs about some pretty weapon wtf)
- Zasz - (Hitch)
Holt - (Mikasa) - active role - ???? Killed on N1
Reebi - (Nile) -> Docteur lynched on D1desin24 - (Bertolt) -> Detective killed on N1
With the most suspicious who are also relatively new to the game (I'm still basing myself on the hints provided here, mind you) being @EmptySoul, @DiMaria Yesta, @Arjuna and @Dried Ambrosia.
Dried Ambrosia also makes me think she could be the Politician like Faffy said, since her actions remind me of how Qixus played in her first game (voted for me and made me vote for Daws just because we were the ones she knew better). As for the others, DiMaria didn't vote at all and barely posted three times, Empty voted DiMaria, and Arjuna basically did what he does every game, which is hard to identify as his mafia playstyle since we've yet to see what his townie playstyle looks like.
Alright, that was it from me. @GrySun, you didn't really get a BP protection in the gift, did you? I'd hate to think desin died because you were PGO and he tried to investigate you...
Well first off that's obviously makes no sense.Dude are you even reading the game? Why would Zasz, as a mafia, kill himself like that, framing me? Same with Gry. I keep insisting I see Zasz's claim legit.
If you kill Me->Zasz->Grysun you'll kill 3 townies, 2 of them detectives. This is a horrible idea.
Let's just kill Demon please.
You really haven't been reading. We have talked about this for a good while now.So walk me through way you say that. Zasz says he's a sane detective verified by investigating Vandred on N1 and finding him innocent which we know to be correct. And on N2 he found you were guilty. Through what course of events would his N2 result be false?
Did he list himself as "mid tier" in people he suspected? He took the "you can't trust anyone" kind of too seriously didn't he.Well here's the list Vandred made, on the top bolded are his more suspicious players on the bottom the other players. Assuming he died while trying to recruit someone its likely someone he trusted a lot and was convinced it's a townie (no idea who but I dont exclude James possibility ) . He obviously wouldnt try to recruit those he didnt trust.
If theres another mason, he's to be likely be found on the bottom of his list possibly some not enough active player.
LOL Where did I say that I would reveal my role? I can do it, but I don't like the way you are playing. What I said is that you have to reveal your role first if you want others to do it, especially when you are not confirmed Townie yourself. If I learned something from these early deaths in the previous games taught me that letting you take control doesn't give good results because of actions like this.@Demonspeed @Erinyes so you‘re both liars as I expected? I gave you my role but haven‘t heard from you.
What more do you need from me though? Short of just saying what my role is I gave as many hints as I possibly could both at the start of the game and when empty accused me of being vague. There's not much going on with this role.Why me ? Sure, I ll definitely reveal it, but only when i learn more on Bel, Ancy, You, Gryff, Monkey, Demon, Marmalade then you have my word i wll reveal it.
Both your reasonings and playstyle this game baffle me to no end. What is the correct playstyle here while the most important roles are already claimed? Staying silent with everyone until...when? And what difference does it make to you whether people reveal day 3 before our det is nightkilled or reveal day4 after our det is nightkilled? You are severely overestimating mafia having a big advantage in knowing who they target after the dets are gone. How are we ever going to find any further mafia without severe luck if everyone never reveals their roles. Then whats the point of even hinting anything in the first place.LOL Where did I say that I would reveal my role? I can do it, but I don't like the way you are playing. What I said is that you have to reveal your role first if you want others to do it, especially when you are not confirmed Townie yourself. If I learned something from these early deaths in the previous games taught me that letting you take control doesn't give good results because of actions like this.
Erin and I are not the only players here.
If theres not much going on with the role, why not just reveal it? I don‘t understand why we‘re making things so much more difficult for ourselves.What more do you need from me though? Short of just saying what my role is I gave as many hints as I possibly could both at the start of the game and when empty accused me of being vague. There's not much going on with this role.
I didn't say I will stay silent. I said I won't reveal my role just because you want me to. And I don't think everyone should. Most important roles? According to who? You don't know what the others have. Everyone claiming a role won't make things better.Both your reasonings and playstyle this game baffle me to no end. What is the correct playstyle here while the most important roles are already claimed? Staying silent with everyone until...when? And what difference does it make to you whether people reveal day 3 before our det is nightkilled or reveal day4 after our det is nightkilled? You are severely overestimating mafia having a big advantage in knowing who they target after the dets are gone. How are we ever going to find any further mafia without severe luck if everyone never reveals their roles. Then whats the point of even hinting anything in the first place.
Enlighten me please. Because this just reeks of awful townplay to me.
If theres not much going on with the role, why not just reveal it? I don‘t understand why we‘re making things so much more difficult for ourselves.