Same way Ozpin knew about Raven being the Spring Maiden
Oh OK my duplicate Johan.Ok, fake Johan
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LMAO I swear if you had spoilered me I would have left this thread
Maybe I didLMAO I swear if you had spoilered me I would have left this thread
TBH I can see it happening just to make Yang a Spring MaidenRaven should be the one about to die btw
Maybe I did
Imo, Raven has always been expendable from her first introduction in the story. Simply due to being Yang's parent. Even if she wasn't fighting Cinder she was still bound to die at one day (I'm not even sure if she'll face her daughter at this point)TBH I can see it happening just to make Yang a Spring Maiden
Jeez how I hate just thinking about that
From logical point of view Raven should be victorious from plot point of view it will be Cinder we will see
Raven will probably forget that she can run away to Tai for example when things will get darker : TBH I would love to see Raven troll both Tai and Cinder and just open a portal to Tai and kick Cinder into it
Are you saying that Ghira and Kali are going to dieImo, Raven has always been expendable from her first introduction in the story. Simply due to being Yang's parent. Even if she wasn't fighting Cinder she was still bound to die at one day (I'm not even sure if she'll face her daughter at this point)
Because she's a Maiden much longer and is considered to be at the same level as Qrow ( or slightly higher ) without maiden powers even despite her Semblance isn't combat oriented?:PAnd isn't Cinder stronger than Raven? She did take out Ozpin Why is it logical for Raven to win?
Cinder did take out ozpin but cinder had maiden powers, that is a fairly big advantage to have over the guy. Ozpin has made the point that his magical powers are dwindling. Raven in turn is supposed to be one of the stronger hunters we have seen in the series altogether and on top of that she has actual magic. To me this is a bit of a tossup.
Imo, Raven has always been expendable from her first introduction in the story. Simply due to being Yang's parent. Even if she wasn't fighting Cinder she was still bound to die at one day (I'm not even sure if she'll face her daughter at this point)
And isn't Cinder stronger than Raven? She did take out Ozpin Why is it logical for Raven to win?
Naah, they're too irrelevant for thatAre you saying that Ghira and Kali are going to die
Yeah, but do you really think Cinder can't beat Qrow? Tyrian and Qrow were evenly matched in Volume 4 before fckin Ruby came in and ruined everything I'd say Cinder is a level above Tyrian, so stronger than RavenBecause she's a Maiden much longer and is considered to be at the same level as Qrow ( or slightly higher ) without maiden powers even despite her Semblance isn't combat oriented?:P
Id be satisfied with this as well ^^^^Raven in turn is supposed to be one of the stronger hunters we have seen in the series altogether and on top of that she has actual magic. To me this is a bit of a tossup.
Base Raven is said to be equal or slightly better than Qrow + We don't know for how long she's a Maiden..Yeah, but do you really think Cinder can't beat Qrow? Tyrian and Qrow were evenly matched in Volume 4 before fckin Ruby came in and ruined everything I'd say Cinder is a level above Tyrian, so stronger than Raven
When did Raven form the tribe? I think that's when she became a Maiden, one of her subordinates had the power so once she died it moved to her. But keep in mind this, this is someone who had everyone thinking Vernal was the Spring Maiden......even Qrow. That means she trained Vernal to reach that level, while managing to mask her powers this whole time. There's no indication she trained with her Maiden powers, so I'd say there's a chance Cinder is more skilled at them than Raven.Not to mention Cinder is sort of a prodigy and more badassBase Raven is said to be equal or slightly better than Qrow + We don't know for how long she's a Maiden..
So yeah Base Raven will be also above Tyrian..
Her and Cinder can be at the same level tbh the unknown factor is Cinder Grimm part it's an advantage ( but at the same time Cinder can't protect her Arm with an Aura for example )
Form the tribe? Raven was born to the tribe and was sent to beacon as a countermeasure to huntsmen. And the power masking wasn't too complicated as far as I know. I mean, raven just wore a mask to cover her eyes while vernal faked doing stuff.When did Raven form the tribe? I think that's when she became a Maiden, one of her subordinates had the power so once she died it moved to her. But keep in mind this, this is someone who had everyone thinking Vernal was the Spring Maiden......even Qrow. That means she trained Vernal to reach that level, while managing to mask her powers this whole time. There's no indication she trained with her Maiden powers, so I'd say there's a chance Cinder is more skilled at them than Raven.Not to mention Cinder is sort of a prodigy and more badass
@kkck likes Cinder more too, so there's also that