Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[xAsum0x]

At least the arts really good in Bozebeats, maybe they'll cancel him and ask him to try again with a better story.

 

[Franz]

I don't remember Luffy, Deku, Toriko, Tanjirou, Soma, Tsuna, Oga or Senku being orphans who can use Getsuga Tenshou and the Shadow Clone Jutsu while having a demon live inside of them/their weapons.

Toriko had a demon. No wait three demons XD

Tanjirou is an orphan. Even Toriko in some way.

When Asta use Kage Bunshin ?

I understan that you hate the manga nut this is ridicoulos...

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About all blind Black Clover defenders:

Honestly in this topic I see more blind haters than defenders...

 

[101nemesis]

Toriko had a demon. No wait three demons XD

Tanjirou is an orphan. Even Toriko in some way.

When Asta use Kage Bunshin ?

I understan that you hate the manga nut this is ridicoulos...

You've missed the entire point ShenGao was trying to make. So nevermind.

 

[Franz]

You've missed the entire point ShenGao was trying to make. .

To me the message was the classic "Bla bla Black Clover sucks because..." but different folks different tastes.

I love My Hero and I didn't hate any manga but if someone thinks that throwing s*****h is the best thing to do...peace.

 

[ShenGao]

Toriko had a demon. No wait three demons XD

Tanjirou is an orphan. Even Toriko in some way.

When Asta use Kage Bunshin ?

I understan that you hate the manga nut this is ridicoulos...

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Honestly in this topic I see more blind haters than defenders...

Chapter 45:

Spoiler

Also you need to read better. I said which character has ALL of these things (orphan, demon powers, getsuga tenshou and shadow clone jutsu) and from all of the ones i listed not a single one had all of them, but Asta (the Naruto clone) has all of them. So your point that "every shonen since the 90s" has tried to copy these tropes and cliches is wrong.

 

[Franz]

Asta didn't clone himself in that page.

So your critic is pointless.

And even very superficious.

 

[101nemesis]

To me the message was the classic "Bla bla Black Clover sucks because..." but different folks different tastes.

I love My Hero and I didn't hate any manga but if someone thinks that throwing s*****h is the best thing to do...peace.

PRETTY SURE, you started this entire topic about BC and MHA after I posted my assumptions of how many volumes each series would last. So, I've stated this before. I don't read BC because I couldn't get into it after the initial chapters but I don't dislike it or like it. I have no feelings towards it. But you got defensive after seeing people say BC won't last that long and just started bringing up MHA into the picture for no reason. Also, none of my comments were based on my feelings towards either of the 2. All were based on actual facts while yours were solely based on your feelings towards BC.

 

[nonowa]

From Shoseki it seems like Bokuben and Stone are going to miss on W2 Oricon again. They really seem to be refusing to grow.

 

[Franz]

. But you got defensive after seeing people say BC won't last that long and just started bringing up MHA into the picture for no reason.

. All were based on actual facts while yours were solely based on your feelings towards BC.

No.

I never compared the two manga about ther pubblication but only compared about Naruto.

And my feelings didn't have any role.

I speak about data.

 

[nonowa]

Neverland SHOULDN'T last over 20 volumes, to be honest. Anyone here read 20th Century Boys? That series went off the rails once the mysteries were solved and the antagonists brought down yet they keep moving forward with considerably more underwhelming mysteries and antagonists. To be fair, Death Note was already too long at 14...

 

[xAsum0x]

Neverland SHOULDN'T last over 20 volumes, to be honest. Anyone here read 20th Century Boys? That series went off the rails once the mysteries were solved and the antagonists brought down yet they keep moving forward with considerably more underwhelming mysteries and antagonists. To be fair, Death Note was already too long at 14...

I oh so highly disagree, 20th CB was amazing and is Urasawas best work.

 

[cody]

Neverland SHOULDN'T last over 20 volumes, to be honest. Anyone here read 20th Century Boys? That series went off the rails once the mysteries were solved and the antagonists brought down yet they keep moving forward with considerably more underwhelming mysteries and antagonists. To be fair, Death Note was already too long at 14...

I agree, reading 20th Century Boys after experiencing Monster was quite a disappointment. It went on for too long and really lost its way and direction. Edit: And I agree that Neverland shouldn't go longer than 20.

 

[Franz]

cut

However we are at a standstill. Are you 100% convinced, in an absolute and indecipherable way that the manga will not have more boost?

Ok. I think the opposite, and I do not see why not. Here there is no pleasure or feelings.

Regarding Shengao, his comments seem to be based on hate and reflect poor knowledge of the manga.

Type "If X dies then Y replaces him" (based on what?) Or "Asta uses the Kage Bunshin, shameless copy" (when it is not even Asta to multiply itself ...).

This is talking about personal things.

I never brought up my preferences or criticized manga because yes.

 

[Sir Isley]

Chapter 45:
Also you need to read better. I said which character has ALL of these things (orphan, demon powers, getsuga tenshou and shadow clone jutsu) and from all of the ones i listed not a single one had all of them, but Asta (the Naruto clone) has all of them. So your point that "every shonen since the 90s" has tried to copy these tropes and cliches is wrong.

2. Asta can't willingly fire blade beams without help.
3. There's a lot of missed context with those images buddy.

I like how dudes here(and only here) try to lump all BC fans together like with that nonsense above where its claimed that BC fans
don't care for anything MHA related. Nah, I've been following MHA since chapter 13 so that is false.

 

[Leoat12]

Neverland SHOULDN'T last over 20 volumes, to be honest. Anyone here read 20th Century Boys? That series went off the rails once the mysteries were solved and the antagonists brought down yet they keep moving forward with considerably more underwhelming mysteries and antagonists. To be fair, Death Note was already too long at 14...

It is kind of historical that Urasawa doesn't know how to close his manga. I read Monster, 20th Century Boys and Pluto. Pluto is the best by far, the other two starts amazing, but the end is not that good.
I agree about The Promised Neverland, the pacing has been good and going to a conclusion in 20 or less volumes.

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I also read Billy Bat until certain point, it also became a trainwreck. XD

 

[101nemesis]

No.

I never compared the two manga about ther pubblication but only compared about Naruto.

And my feelings didn't have any role.

I speak about data.

Which data though? You've mentioned so many things about MHA and BC but fail to provide any actual data to support your replies.

 

[De La Croissant]

Neverland SHOULDN'T last over 20 volumes, to be honest. Anyone here read 20th Century Boys? That series went off the rails once the mysteries were solved and the antagonists brought down yet they keep moving forward with considerably more underwhelming mysteries and antagonists. To be fair, Death Note was already too long at 14...

In a way, this is kinda already happening in Neverland. A lot of characters and scenarios being introduced every new chapter. When I think I'm going to know the character properly, plot twist, a new one appears!

It is kind of historical that Urasawa doesn't know how to close his manga.

In fact, that's a problem most mangakas have. XD

By the way, what manga do you guys think has a perfect ending? Not just satisfying, but really cool.

 

[Newkerzy]

Toriko, Kenshin and of course, FMA.

 

[Tamil]

Toriko & Jojo (part 6 ending can technically be seen as the ending of jojo and I liked all the parts ending thus far)

Part 6 ending & Toriko basically had the biggest impact IMO. It kinda confuses me when I hear that part 6 wasn't really liked in Japan. I can't really find any sales numbers on each of the part to gauge which parts where enjoyed/disliked by the Japanese.

 

[XtrnlArdent]

The only perfect endings for me are the Samidare and Aria ones, but they are from other magazines xD

My top 3 would be: Neverland, Souma and Yaiba. I did not like the start of this Souma arc but right now I think it is at it's best, the Isshiki and Nene chapter was very good. Yuuna is falling apart imo, no progression, only a bunch of random chapters. Same with WNL, the last chapters were pretty meh for me.