Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[shoyoboyo]

I think it could honestly surpass MHA in sales based solely on the fact that it has a wide audience appeal.

 

[SharkBait]

Hopefully Crunchyroll sells it as Emma as the next Queen of shonen.

 

[Drmke]

It'll pass Hero's sales as they are now likely. Reach max Haikyu levels? Maybe. 1 million? Eh.....very unlikely. Almost nothing hits those numbers. (excluding digital sales of course)

 

[Nemesis]

Cool.

I'm already preparing myself for the amount of "It's not your typical shonen" I'll have to read.

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PS: get out, Toei.

There's no sense for Toei to pick Neverland or Shueisha to offer it to them lol

They are very very new so we might have a Golden Kamuy on our hands however they worked on FRANXX which while its not a good show had some impressive character animation and the tone fits the first arc of the series well so we'll see.

They were A-1 Koenji but they're still their subsidiary. Besides the change of name to give a more individual identity, it's the same studio that worked on Darling in the Franxx, Slow Start and is working now on P5A so they're not really new.

If the production company is Aniplex, then the chances of the studio being A-1/CloverWorks increased by a lot. But let's see if he tweets about it, if he doesn't do it, does that mean he isn't really too sure about the details?

The official anime announcement will probably happen in a week or two if I had to guess, maybe only then we'll find out the what the staff is.

For sure, but at the same time there's plenty of productions of Aniplex without A-1 involvement which is actually the majority. Outside of A-1 which is their subsidiary, they work with Shaft for a bunch of projects too.

 

[MangAniMY]

wonder when the official reveal be

 

[Caiops]

I think it will reach Tokyo Ghoul level of sales...

So, 1kk-1,1kk.

 

[cody]

For sure, but at the same time there's plenty of productions of Aniplex without A-1 involvement which is actually the majority. Outside of A-1 which is their subsidiary, they work with Shaft for a bunch of projects too.

So we know it's Aniplex that is producing the anime for sure. But that's it for now, right? It can be any studio. The rumors about CloverWorks really seem to be nothing more than rumors and they weren't even started by Yonkou.

 

[savethecat]

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So we know it's Aniplex that is producing the anime for sure. But that's it for now, right? It can be any studio. The rumors about CloverWorks really seem to be nothing more than rumors and they weren't even started by Yonkou.

Aniplex is mainly linked to A1, since that's A1 is their Studio. Since it's being produced by them it seems that it'll most likely go to A1. I believe people are predicting Cloverworks because that Aniplex's new sub studio, and it would be huge if they had Neverland attached to it

 

[ChocoBar9]

For sure, but at the same time there's plenty of productions of Aniplex without A-1 involvement which is actually the majority. Outside of A-1 which is their subsidiary, they work with Shaft for a bunch of projects too.

Pretty much everything that's through Aniplexs animated by A-1 circa 2005 because that's their subcontract studio everything else is just license distribution that's more or less revealed after the series studio is revealed. Not everything from Shaft is distributed by Aniplex either.

 

[Scruffy8642]

I-its fine. Th-that doesnt count .

Nice that TPN anime was finally announced, though I think I would have preferred to get it later, although it could still be 18 months off airing at this point.

To the people annoyed it came before Kimetsu: you have to realise it took almost as much time for Kimetsu to even take off as it takes for some series that were successful from the getgo to get anime announcements (TPN for example). It was the best part of 18 months before it was even pulling acceptable numbers. Its only natural its going to be much further behind most other series as far any big promotions are concerned.

 

[OtterBrigade]

So we know it's Aniplex that is producing the anime for sure. But that's it for now, right? It can be any studio. The rumors about CloverWorks really seem to be nothing more than rumors and they weren't even started by Yonkou.

Pretty much. We can take off Ghibli and Toei as they lead their own committees though. PA Works doesn't do manga adaptations and KyoAni has never been attached to Aniplex (and has also lead a few of their committees lately) so they can probably be eliminated as well. There's probably some other studios it can't be but other than that the sky's the limit.

 

[ChocoBar9]

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Aniplex is mainly linked to A1, since that's A1 is their Studio. Since it's being produced by them it seems that it'll most likely go to A1. I believe people are predicting Cloverworks because that Aniplex's new sub studio, and it would be huge if they had Neverland attached to it

Thank you. I'm not sure why people think Aniplex is on every production they're not. The reason why A-1 was created is solely because they wanted to distributed their own original in-house anime. You only see the Aniplex label on titles they license before 2005 with a few key exceptions (Kill la Kill, Valvrave, Devilman Crybaby etc.)

Also it makes no sense for the distributor to register a domain unless they were also the subcontract holder of the studio animating it.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Pretty much everything that's through Aniplexs animated by A-1 circa 2005 because that's their subcontract studio everything else is just license distribution that's more or less revealed after the series studio is revealed. Not everything from Shaft is distributed by Aniplex either.

There's a lot of Aniplex stuff post-2005 that has nothing to do with A1. Just off the top of my head Angel Beats, Charlotte, Yuuna, most the Fate stuff, the Monogatari series, Kill la Kill, Rewrite, SAO GGO, Working Cells, FMA Brotherhood, Durarara, etc.

 

[cody]

There's a lot of Aniplex stuff post-2005 that has nothing to do with A1. Just off the top of my head Angel Beats, Charlotte, Yuuna, most the Fate stuff, the Monogatari series, Kill la Kill, Rewrite, SAO GGO, Working Cells, FMA Brotherhood, Durarara, etc.

I was about to point this out, there's a ton of Aniplex anime that have nothing to do with A-1 Pictures.

 

[ChocoBar9]

There's a lot of Aniplex stuff post-2005 that has nothing to do with A1. Just off the top of my head Angel Beats, Charlotte, Yuuna, most the Fate stuff, the Monogatari series, Kill la Kill, Rewrite, SAO GGO, Working Cells, FMA Brotherhood, Durarara, etc.

Yuuna is Pony Canyon.
Fate and FMA were all licensed by Aniplex before A-1 was formed so they still held them regardless
Aniplex owns all animated distrubtion rights to SAO starting with the first series in which A-1 animated.
Angel Beats and Charlotte is also apart of the Key anime license they had before A-1 was formed.

So out of all those examples only three are new licenses from the post A-1 era.

 

[savethecat]

There's a lot of Aniplex stuff post-2005 that has nothing to do with A1. Just off the top of my head Angel Beats, Charlotte, Yuuna, most the Fate stuff, the Monogatari series, Kill la Kill, Rewrite, SAO GGO, Working Cells, FMA Brotherhood, Durarara, etc.

I was about to point this out, there's a ton of Aniplex anime that have nothing to do with A-1 Pictures.

Idk about most of those. But with Kill La Kill and FMA I believe Aniplex just distributed those series. They had no involvement on making the series. With FMA I even believe it’s just licensed by Aniplex of America. Meaning the box set are released by Aniplex in just America

 

[SharkBait]

Please let Mamoru Miyano voice Norman and Nobuhiko Okamoto Voice Ray. All I need.

 

[ChocoBar9]

I didn't say that. I said that while Aniplex is part of the committee in A-1 productions since it's their studio, they're also part in plenty of others without A-1 being in there. For example, just in this year they have outside of A-1 as part of the committee:

After the Rain
Devilman Crybaby
Fate Last/Encore
Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan
Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online

And when I cited Shaft, I didn't mean that they're always together but that between the studios outside of A-1 which is their own subsidiary, Shaft is the one where they are more together be it with Fate Last Encore, Monogatari series or Madoka Magica.

Aniplex own all distribution rights to all Fate related material since the DEEN version which was made before A-1 was a thing the same with SAO in which they did animated but own intellectual properties to all its animated incarnatios. Aniplex is a licensor they don't have to be animated by A-1 in order for them to be owned through Aniplex same thing with Bandai Visual and Sunrise. Anyways let's just wait for more information to come out.

 

[Nemesis]

Pretty much everything that's through Aniplexs animated by A-1 circa 2005 because that's their subcontract studio everything else is just license distribution that's more or less revealed after the series studio is revealed. Not everything from Shaft is distributed by Aniplex either.

I didn't say that. I said that while Aniplex is part of the committee in A-1 productions since it's their studio, they're also part in plenty of others without A-1 being in there. For example, just in t they had outside of A-1 as part of the committee:

After the Rain
Devilman Crybaby
Fate Last/Encore
Emiya-san Chi no Kyou no Gohan
Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online

And when I cited Shaft, I didn't mean that they're always together but that between the studios outside of A-1 which is their own subsidiary, Shaft is the one where they are more together be it with Fate Last Encore, Monogatari series or Madoka Magica.

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Aniplex own all distribution rights to all Fate related material since the DEEN version which was made before A-1 was a thing the same with SAO in which they did animated but own intellectual properties to all its animated incarnatios. Aniplex is a licensor they don't have to be animated by A-1 in order for them to be owned through Aniplex same thing with Bandai Visual and Sunrise. Anyways let's just wait for more information to come out.

I mean, I'm not disputing the fact that Aniplex anime can be made without A-1 or that those made without them aren't owned by Aniplex but that a Aniplex production can be made without A-1 (or now, Cloverworks) like in other cases.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Yuuna is Pony Canyon.
Fate and FMA were all licensed by Aniplex before A-1 was formed so they still held them regardless
Aniplex owns all animated distrubtion rights to SAO starting with the first series in which A-1 animated.
Angel Beats and Charlotte is also apart of the Key anime license they had before A-1 was formed.

So out of all those examples only three are new licenses from the post A-1 era.

Yuuna is Aniplex: http://www.aniplex.co.jp/lineup/anime/yuragisou/

Aniplex had nothing to do with Key anime before Angel Beats. They also have March Comes in Like a Lion, Nisekoi, the Honeyworks stuff, Gurren Lagan, Madoka, Baccano, The Irregular at Magic High and more. Point is Aniplex does a lot without A1.